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Mon, 12 June 2017 20:20

jhbridges

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Registered: May 2011
Location: Braselton ga

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In addition to putting the new transmission in my coach I decided to see about getting the brakes to work properly. I added a reaction arm system from Applied last fall, but I still wasn't happy with the braking. Some inspection showed the master cylinder was bottoming, so I found a rebuilt one - correct one even - at O'Rielly's. Checking the system visually, I found these two weird brass cylinders teed into two lines, the front input at the proportioning valve and the rear line leaving the valve. Made by Brake Guard Products of Spokane Washington. There was a patent number, 4,571,009 assigned to one Ed Jones, prexy of Brake Guard products. The patent claims it's a pressure vessel with some specific ratios of dimension and some claimed benefits from internal air pressure.
OK, why would I want a pressure vessel on the brake lines? Well, I looked a little further and found:

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1998/01/ftc-upholds-charges-against-brake-guard-add-brakes-are-not-abs

Aha! It seems Mr. Jones let his mouth overload his asshole as we say. I suspect the PPO bought into the claims of a poor man's ABS for his coach and installed them or had them installed. They are now uninstalled and the ports plugged. They're machined out of brass, at some point I'll take the broken one apart and see quite what's inside it. Its mounting nipple separated before it loosened in its tee fitting. The other one is unbroken. Both are available for a modest honorarium, or I'll keep them as souvenirs.
Mr Jones had several other patents mentioned, I didn't peruse them and thus have no feeling as to their legitimacy or lack thereof.

--johnny

Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

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		Scam, anyone? By: jhbridges on Mon, 12 June 2017 20:20
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: Ken Henderson on Mon, 12 June 2017 20:33
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: USAussie on Mon, 12 June 2017 20:32
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: James Hupy on Tue, 13 June 2017 09:43
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: Rob on Wed, 14 June 2017 14:16
		Re: Scam, anyone? By: jhbridges on Mon, 12 June 2017 20:45
		Re: Scam, anyone? By: C Boyd on Mon, 12 June 2017 21:04
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: Mr ERFisher on Tue, 13 June 2017 07:38
		Re: Scam, anyone? By: jhbridges on Tue, 13 June 2017 07:35
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: Dolph Santorine on Tue, 13 June 2017 08:10
		Re: Scam, anyone? By: jhbridges on Tue, 13 June 2017 07:47
		Re: Scam, anyone? By: Matt Colie on Tue, 13 June 2017 08:12
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: GMC.LES on Tue, 13 June 2017 09:06
		Re: Scam, anyone? By: midlf on Tue, 13 June 2017 09:48
		Re: Scam, anyone? By: jhbridges on Wed, 14 June 2017 16:44
		Re: [GMCnet] Scam, anyone? By: USAussie on Wed, 14 June 2017 18:48

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