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| Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69172] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 05:36  |
Ken Burton
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My second most favorite state behind Kansas raised the state speed limit for TRUCKS to 65 except for the 6 counties around Chicago.
In the past it has always been 55 INCLUDING RVs. I can not find anything online that says they also raised the speed limits for RVs but it probably includes us.
The speed limits have always been selectively enforced primarily on out of state vehicles. 80 to 85 is not uncommon on Chicago area Interstates for vehicles with Illinois plates.
Keep your eyes open for any additional information on RV's in Illinois to find out for sure if this includes us. The next time I go through Illinois, which I hope is a long time from now, I'll be watching so see if the RV speed limits signs have come down.
Now if I could just get Illinois to modify their tolls and gun laws, I might consider going to that state more often. Even though I'm only 17.5 miles from the state line I probably go over there less than 4 times a year. I worked for 25 years in Cook County, IL.
They also started a no texting while driving law today.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69175 is a reply to message #69172] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 07:44  |
Steven Ferguson
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Ken,
As long as they have all those toll booths, they'll havet to have the
gun laws:>)
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> My second most favorite state behind Kansas raised the state speed limit for TRUCKS to 65 except for the 6 counties around Chicago.
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> In the past it has always been 55 INCLUDING RVs. I can not find anything online that says they also raised the speed limits for RVs but it probably includes us.
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> The speed limits have always been selectively enforced primarily on out of state vehicles. 80 to 85 is not uncommon on Chicago area Interstates for vehicles with Illinois plates.
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> Keep your eyes open for any additional information on RV's in Illinois to find out for sure if this includes us. The next time I go through Illinois, which I hope is a long time from now, I'll be watching so see if the RV speed limits signs have come down.
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> Now if I could just get Illinois to modify their tolls and gun laws, I might consider going to that state more often. Even though I'm only 17.5 miles from the state line I probably go over there less than 4 times a year. I worked for 25 years in Cook County, IL.
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> They also started a no texting while driving law today.
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> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69183 is a reply to message #69172] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 08:26 |
Larry
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| Ken Burton wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 05:36 |
My second most favorite state behind Kansas raised the state speed limit for TRUCKS to 65 except for the 6 counties around Chicago.
In the past it has always been 55 INCLUDING RVs. I can not find anything online that says they also raised the speed limits for RVs but it probably includes us.
The speed limits have always been selectively enforced primarily on out of state vehicles. 80 to 85 is not uncommon on Chicago area Interstates for vehicles with Illinois plates.
Keep your eyes open for any additional information on RV's in Illinois to find out for sure if this includes us. The next time I go through Illinois, which I hope is a long time from now, I'll be watching so see if the RV speed limits signs have come down.
Now if I could just get Illinois to modify their tolls and gun laws, I might consider going to that state more often. Even though I'm only 17.5 miles from the state line I probably go over there less than 4 times a year. I worked for 25 years in Cook County, IL.
They also started a no texting while driving law today.
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We are traveling through Illinois right now, and speed limit signs for trucks remain the same. Signs have not yet come down. Yesterday I was doing 62, and an unmarked State patrol car...I mean *really* unmarked plain jain passed me. 10 minutes later had a Dodge Colt that flew passed me pulled over. Love it when that happens.
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69190 is a reply to message #69183] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 09:51 |
Larry C
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Yesterday I was doing 62, and an unmarked State patrol car...I mean *really* unmarked plain jain passed me. 10 minutes later had a Dodge Colt that flew passed me pulled over. Love it when that happens.
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Illinois is full of unmarked cars and vans. The variety extends from small sports cars to luxury cars and vans.
Used to be, the black and whites were a deterent to speeders or whatever. But they could not make enough money that way.
This state is super populated with speed traps, especially around the Chicago region and they are using camera radar now also.
Travel very aware in this state.
LarC ( Having had my own experience with the speed trap and our "happy" law enforcement agents )
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| Re: Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69203 is a reply to message #69172] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 11:08 |
JohnL455
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The 2 different speeds always struck me as a safety law that caused accidents. Harder to crash when all the flow is the same. No differential in speed = zero impact. I'll keep my eyes open for the sign updates. They have a hard enough time at the manned toll booths with the TZE. Most have never seen one. They don't know what it is or how much to charge as it is always a different amount. I just stick on the Ipass now and go thru the open road tolls and let whatever they charge me be charged as it's cheaper with the Ipass over the manned lane markup premium. Haven't bothered to try to study the bill to try to figure it out.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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| Re: Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69222 is a reply to message #69172] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 14:26 |
GeorgeRud
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It seems that if you're on I-294 (the circle loop around Chicago), the majority of traffic seem to be driving as if they are trying to qualify for the Indianapolis 500. There is enough traffic that speed cameras or radar cannot handle the volume of traffic that is flowing. I also think that marked squad cars would be the best way to keep traffic somewhat sane.
Driving around Chicago mostly is a matter of survival. When you have some yahoo pass you at 100mph in a "Donor Bike", it's hard to be very concerned if someone is driving 55 or 65.
What really frosts me is then when you get out of Chicago, on a flat, clear, straight roadway like I-57, you have to deal with radar traps on highways that could probably easily handle 85 mph speeds with complete safety. Being Illinois (especially Cook County), most of this is about revenue enhancement and not about safety.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69267 is a reply to message #69222] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 20:43 |
Larry C
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There is enough traffic that speed cameras or radar cannot handle the volume of traffic that is flowing. I also think that marked squad cars would be the best way to keep traffic somewhat sane.
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I have unfortunately become "EDUCATED" with the RedLight Stop cams system, which is a direct relative to the highway cams.
The REDLIGHT Stop cams are a simpler system.
They sense a car entering the intersection after the red light comes on and snaps a series of pics. The pics show the intersection, the red light and the car tail/stop lights and plate.
The series of pics can be run to look like a movie clip and indicates the redlight, the position and movement of the car, if the brake light is on or off, the plate number and if the car is moving forward or turning.
On the highway, it is similar. It does no matter how many cars are there, all they have to do is see the car movement and the plate number. The car will be ticketed and the owner will be paying the fee.
On Illinois 355 near the South section, the POLice ( Poe - Leese ) will sit on the side with radar hidden by a curve. they simply pick a car to pull over, any one in the pod of cars traveling over 55mph and no matter what you have to say, YOUR GONNA GIT A TICKET!!!
THEY COMPLETELY IGNORE THE DRIVING RULE TO KEEP UP WITH TRAFFIC TO PREVENT BEING A TRAFFIC OBSTICAL
This is income and you can't fight it in court. If you try they will ask if you were driving over 55 mph. NOBODY drives 55 on 355...
LarC ( Takes the easy road home these days and lets the race car trainees use 355 )
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| Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69274 is a reply to message #69273] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 22:08 |
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USAussie
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Jim,
Jeez, now that's amazing, someone in Washington, DC with some common sense!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Galbavy
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To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65??
Rob,
The Metro Police in DC sent me a camera speeding ticket. They caught a four
door Honda with a plate # one digit off of ANNIE's.
I wrote a letter to the court asking if they rely thought that if the
picture was of a 1973 26' long GMC Motorhome that I would happy to appear on
the court date. ....and where would they like me to park it when I do. I
was told "never mind".
jim galbavy
'73 X-CL ANNIE)
Chesterfield, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69278 is a reply to message #69273] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 00:39 |
Ken Burton
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When I was about 25 I was working the evening shift for IBM answering repair calls on IBM mainframes in the southern Chicago suburbs. I got off at 1:30 AM and was headed home when I spotted a motorcycle dealership on fire in Lansing, IL. I drove to the Holiday Inn about 600 feet down the road, ran inside, and called the fire department. I left my car in the Holiday Inn parking lot and walked back down the street to watch what happened from across the street. A fire truck and several volunteer firemen in their personal vehicles showed up quickly. One volunteer fireman parked his blue Pontiac on the street between me on the sidewalk and the fire across the street about 400 feet away.
A late arriving volunteer fireman about 10 minutes later walked up to me and said. "Do you have you car here?" I said "yes" He responded "Get in your car and get the hell out of here." I told him to go fight his fire and to quit over stepping his authority. About 5 minutes later a police car pulled up and the cop said "Get in the back seat". I said nothing and complied. He then drove me to the police station and took me inside. He still said nothing other than to follow him. Inside the Desk Sargent wrote up a bunch of paperwork and told me I had to post a $25.00 bond since I was from out of state. The Indiana line and the city limits of the town I lived in at the time is about 2 miles from the Lansing police station and about 7 miles from my home.
I posted the $25.00 bond and was handed a ticket for parking within 15 feet of the pavement. I was also handed a release to present to the towing company to retrieve my Blue Pontiac with Illinois plates on it.
I hitched a ride from the police station back to the Holiday Inn where I got in my Yellow Chevy with Indiana plates on it and drove home. The fire was still going on when I left but I resisted the temptation to stick around and see what happened when the volunteer fireman found his car missing.
About 2 months later I received a refund check in the mail for $25.00 from the Cook County courts and a statement saying the charges against me had been dropped.
This is the mentality of the Cook County local police when they see an out-of-stater. I've got many more stories like this but real point is if you are displaying out-of-state plates do not exceed the limit even though everyone else is. This is another reason I hope that they also changed the speed limit for RV's. It will give us more margin when traveling through the state.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69282 is a reply to message #69203] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 02:13 |
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Thats one of the reasons why in Germany you can drive over 100 MPH on that country's famous Autobahn system, slow traffic stays right, left is for passing. LKW's (semi's) are restricted to 100 km/h (62 MPH) RV's and campers generally are allowed to 130 km/h (81 MPH) but generally dont drive that fast for fuel economy reasons, so they just hang out on the right, while in my BMW usually passed at well ovwer 200 km/h (125 MPH)  . last time I was over there I drove over 2000 miles, and saw no wrecks, so I can say the German driving system works, and would be nice if we copied it here...
| JohnL455 wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 11:08 |
The 2 different speeds always struck me as a safety law that caused accidents. Harder to crash when all the flow is the same. No differential in speed = zero impact.
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| [GMCnet] German Driving (was: RE: Illinois RV speed limit 65??) [message #69290 is a reply to message #69282] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 07:03 |
k2gkk
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When I was stationed in Wiesbaden (67-71) it was
pretty much the same way. I had a 64 1/2 Mustang
and generally ran around 80-90. I was passed
occasionally by BMWs, Mercs, and Porsches.
In 1970, I bought a new BMW 2800. I normally
cruised at about 105 mph. I can remember trips
down to Munich headed to Austria for skiing where
I might get passed maybe two or three times.
There is a huge difference in what it takes
(or took) to get a driver license in Germany
as opposed to what it is here in the USA!
Skill level differences are just drastic.
Folks here believe that it is their RIGHT to
drive. These tend to be the same folks that
believe it somebody else's duty to provide them
a home, medical care, etc.
D C "Mac" Macdonald
Oklahoma City, OK
p.s. When Pennsylvania Turnpike first opened, there
were no speed limits. That was quite short-lived as
folks were killing themselves (and others) at a truly
alarming rate. The truly poor handling and braking
characteristics of American cars at the time were
nowhere nearly up to the job at those speeds.
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
From: defconfx@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 02:13:21 -0600
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65??
Thats one of the reasons why in Germany you can drive over
100 MPH on that country's famous Autobahn system, slow
traffic stays right, left is for passing. LKW's (semi's)
are restricted to 100 km/h (62 MPH) RV's and campers
generally are allowed to 130 km/h (81 MPH) but generally
dont drive that fast for fuel economy reasons, so they
just hang out on the right, while in my BMW usually
passed at well ovwer 200 km/h (125 MPH). last time I was
over there I drove over 2000 miles, and saw no wrecks,
so I can say the German driving system works, and
would be nice if we copied it here...
JohnL455 wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010
The 2 different speeds always struck me as a safety law
that caused accidents. Harder to crash when all the flow
is the same. No differential in speed = zero impact.
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| Re: [GMCnet] German Driving (was: RE: Illinois RV speed limit 65??) [message #69293 is a reply to message #69290] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 07:42 |
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G'day,
The Autobahn does have sections that have a speed limit, usually around the
cities.
I remember YEARS ago when the subject of putting speed limits on he Autobahn
came up I "heard" that the Germans said if they put a speed limit on the
Autobahn that soon they would be building cars as lousy as the Americans!
They are debating it again in Europe noting that putting a speed limit on
the Autobahn would reduce Germany's carbon footprint. The Germans (including
the prime minister) have basically said (as Aussies say) BUGGER OFF!
Disclaimer:
This email is anecdotal and is not meant to incite or upset anyone or
require the defense of the quality of American cars.
BTW the Northern Territories only recently adopted a speed limit on the
roads, when we road out to Ayers Rock (Uluru) for the 2005 Harley Owners
Group National Rally there was none. Unfortunately they don't have Autobahns
in the NT; they're mainly two lane roads and anything above 100 - 120 km/hr
is pushing it! Especially since the road may go from bitumen to gravel
without warning! That's fun on a Harley!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] German Driving (was: RE: Illinois RV speed limit 65??)
D C "Mac" Macdonald
Oklahoma City, OK
p.s. When Pennsylvania Turnpike first opened, there
were no speed limits. That was quite short-lived as
folks were killing themselves (and others) at a truly
alarming rate. The truly poor handling and braking
characteristics of American cars at the time were
nowhere nearly up to the job at those speeds.
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69294 is a reply to message #69273] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 08:03 |
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In Minnesota, they put cameras up at "selected" stop lights. Minneapolis was making a killing. Until some sharpy came along and said he wasn't driving the car and until they could prove beyond a doubt that he was, he would not pay the ticket. It went all the way to the State Supreme Court. They agreed with the guy. They went a step further and said all fines already paid must be returned to the payers. That put quite a dent in the city's budget. But, the cameras are gone. The court says they will stay gone till they can prove who is driving.
Little Yimmy - W9VUA
75 PB - F260206
Twin Cities, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69295 is a reply to message #69274] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 08:03 |
John Wright
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The same thing happened to me last summer. I got a ticket from Troy, OH. I
contacted the web site listed on the ticket to view the picture and it had a
picture of a black Pontiac G5 doing in 50 in a 35. It had Michigan plates
and you could read 2 of the three first letter and one of the next three
numbers. I called the Troy police department and talked with the traffic
division and explained that I owned a Black 2001 Tracker 4dr and not the car
in the picture and that I would send them a picture of my tracker. They
explained that they contract the cameras from a company in Arizona and they
are paid on a per ticket contact. They had a admin link to the site and
with 1 hour my ticket was voided and all information removed from the web
site. Just the miracle of modern electronics.
J.R. Wright
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Jim,
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> Jeez, now that's amazing, someone in Washington, DC with some common sense!
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> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Galbavy
> Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2010 3:02 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Illinois RV speed limit 65??
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> Rob,
>
> The Metro Police in DC sent me a camera speeding ticket. They caught a four
> door Honda with a plate # one digit off of ANNIE's.
> I wrote a letter to the court asking if they rely thought that if the
> picture was of a 1973 26' long GMC Motorhome that I would happy to appear
> on
> the court date. ....and where would they like me to park it when I do. I
> was told "never mind".
>
> jim galbavy
> '73 X-CL ANNIE)
> Chesterfield, Va
>
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| Re: Illinois RV speed limit 65?? [message #69296 is a reply to message #69282] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 08:23 |
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Matt Colie
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There are several very serious issues that has been passed over here relative to driving in the USA or Germany.
The laws are virtually the same in every state, and not very different than Germany (yes, I did have license there) but are not taught in driving school in the US with any intent.
Keep to the right
Vehicle on the right has right of way
Maintain a safe separation
These may be the only laws less well enforced than speed limits.
Rechtsfahren (drive right) is very strictly enforced on the Autoban. If the lane to your right is open and you are not in it - Watch Out. Left and center lane cruisers are common in this country. See next, this is only part of the problem.
Entrance ramps are particularly dangerous in this country because many drivers enter at less than traffic speed because they are betting that the bozo in the right lane won't let then in - in spite of the law that requires same. Because of the slow entry speed many drivers cruise in the center lane so they don't have to continually slow for the entering vehicles.
Tailgating seems to be the common way to indicate you want to pass. Not only is this stupid, but dangerous as well. One of the few things Europe does better here is flashing headlights to request space to pass. I have been told that there are regions in the US where headlight flashing is prohibited.
Tailgating has a very special place in my list. I have had a number of cars with 4 wheel disc and many of those had anti-lock. Every one of them had/has been rear-ended at least once. I did love the look that the reporting office gave the young person at one recent incident. This person pointed at me and said "Buuttt - He stopped so fast, I didn't have a chance." The officer looked at me, looked at the back of my car and said "With the all disc and anti-lock, I see this a lot."
But then, Just a little bit of either courtesy or patience out on the roads would make all of us a great deal safer and the drive more pleasant.
I, in case you can't tell, would vote for improvements in the country's overall education system - hint - more money is not the answer. Stricter driver qualification cannot because driving is now deemed a right (let's just not go there today).
Going back to sit down now
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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