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transmission modulator location? [message #68410] Sat, 26 December 2009 16:16 Go to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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The Revcon has a problem getting out of second gear.

Aprently the modulator is the most likely cause, and in the case of this old beast, a cracked vac line is the culpit.

So where is it and what does it look like?

I'm guessing this is not one of the things GM did change from the Toro.

Thanks


Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: transmission modulator location? [message #68413 is a reply to message #68410] Sat, 26 December 2009 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
midlf is currently offline  midlf   United States
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hertfordnc wrote on Sat, 26 December 2009 16:16



Aprently the modulator is the most likely cause, and in the case of this old beast, a cracked vac line is the culpit.

So where is it and what does it look like?

Thanks


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=3990&cat=3382

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=14999&cat=4277



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Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] transmission modulator location? [message #68415 is a reply to message #68413] Sat, 26 December 2009 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Located on passanger side. Vac line goes there.

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net> wrote:
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> hertfordnc wrote on Sat, 26 December 2009 16&#58;16
>> Aprently the modulator is the most likely cause, and in the case of this old beast, a cracked vac line is the culpit.
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>> So where is it and what does it look like?
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>> Thanks
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=3990&cat=3382
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=14999&cat=4277
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Re: transmission modulator location? [message #68438 is a reply to message #68410] Sun, 27 December 2009 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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The two previous postings gave you the location on the right side of the trans. It is held in place with one screw. Start the engine and run it for a minute or two to fill the torque converter and check the vacuum levels outlined below. Shut off the engine, remove the one screw and pull the modulator out. Prior to pulling the modulator, I would remove the hose from it and check it for vacuum preferably with a gauge. If it is not the same as the manifold vacuum (around 18" at idle) then you have a vacuum problem and not a bad modulator.

It is also very common for the steel vacuum line that runs across the top of the engine to rust or plug up with carbon. That steel line has a restrictor built in to it on the intake manifold end. You can unplug the hoses on both ends and blow air through it to make sure it is open. Mine was blocked so bad hat I had to remove it and pressurize it with 100 psi of air while heating it with a flame wrench on the restrictor end to get it open again.


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Re: [GMCnet] transmission modulator location? [message #68446 is a reply to message #68438] Sun, 27 December 2009 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Ken,

Your note sparked a memory for me. When I was replacing the manifold on
Double Trouble I moved the vacuum line out of the way so I could get the
manifold off and it broke. When I looked at the ends where it broke I
noticed it was rusted badly and probably had pin holes in it too. I repaired
it by filing the jagged edges of the two ends flat and joined them with a
piece of rubber hose.

I never checked the line to see if it was plugged so another item gets added
to the Double Trouble TTD list!

Thanks,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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The two previous postings gave you the location on the right side of the
trans. It is held in place with one screw. Start the engine and run it for
a minute or two to fill the torque converter and check the vacuum levels
outlined below. Shut off the engine, remove the one screw and pull the
modulator out. Prior to pulling the modulator, I would remove the hose
from it and check it for vacuum preferably with a gauge. If it is not the
same as the manifold vacuum (around 18" at idle) then you have a vacuum
problem and not a bad modulator.

It is also very common for the steel vacuum line that runs across the top of
the engine to rust or plug up with carbon. That steel line has a restrictor
built in to it on the intake manifold end. You can unplug the hoses on both
ends and blow air through it to make sure it is open. Mine was blocked so
bad hat I had to remove it and pressurize it with 100 psi of air while
heating it with a flame wrench on the restrictor end to get it open again.
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] transmission modulator location? [message #68460 is a reply to message #68446] Sun, 27 December 2009 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""I never checked the line to see if it was plugged so another item gets added
to the Double Trouble TTD list!""

If it shifts OK then it's open. When the modulator isn't working correctly, you'll know it !


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78 Eleganza
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Re: [GMCnet] transmission modulator location? [message #68467 is a reply to message #68413] Sun, 27 December 2009 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only thing that I would add is that your modulator should look
different. Its bigger and black, and the vacuum connection is on the
side of the modulator. the original modulators have been obsolete for
a long time. The new modulator that we use for the motorhome is the
single red stripe with the adjustment screw.
Turning the screw in (clockwise) increases the pressure for shifting
at higher pressure.
Turning the screw counter-clockwise decreases the pressure for shifting sooner.
Turning the screw either in or out is not really linear. It takes
several turns. You're pushing/releasing a spring and it binds then
snaps. So as you crank the screw in, the spring twists, then springs
back..
I set the pressure at 16#s. It seems to work for most folks. nice
smooth shifting (3.07, 3.21, 3.42, 3.55)
18#s seems better for folks with 3.70 and 4.10 final drives.
When Nick lets me know they're replacing the final drive, I usually
set it to 18#s.

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Re: transmission modulator location? [message #68673 is a reply to message #68410] Mon, 28 December 2009 17:30 Go to previous message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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FYI....Here's what the modulator looks like:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=26806&title=img-0716&cat=3382

HTH


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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