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[GMCnet] Dash facelift? [message #68178] Wed, 23 December 2009 13:48 Go to next message
KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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My dash is in pretty sorry condition. Paint alone isn't
going to do much. For folks that have re-covered a dash
in vinyl: did you remove the old vinyl first, or just cover
over it with new? Did you have to use anything special in
terms of material, glue, etc? Hints appreciated.

thanks,
Karen
1973 23' Patience Tester
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Re: [GMCnet] Dash facelift? [message #68181 is a reply to message #68178] Wed, 23 December 2009 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Karen,

Do not peal off the original pad on the pass side, I know the middle edge has lifted but you can screw it back down and fill it smooth.  Using a felt backed vinyl, I use "pleather" you can stretch it over the pad, tuck it and make over a pretty good looking dash.  The hard parts get vinyl dye with the padded parts getting a vinyl wrap.  The dash :donut" also gets wrapped.  I also dye the forward side panels on the driver & pass side.

If you were near Fla. I could do it for you.  Let me know if you need more clarification,

Jim Bounds
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From: KB <kab7@sonic.net>
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Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 2:48:15 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Dash facelift?

My dash is in pretty sorry condition.  Paint alone isn't
going to do much.  For folks that have re-covered a dash
in vinyl: did you remove the old vinyl first, or just cover
over it with new?  Did you have to use anything special in
terms of material, glue, etc?  Hints appreciated.

thanks,
Karen
1973 23' Patience Tester
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Re: [GMCnet] Dash facelift? [message #68246 is a reply to message #68178] Thu, 24 December 2009 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any thoughts on material to use as filler on the dash? The area
around the glove box is warped/shrunken so is going to need considerable help.
I could see filling/reinforcing the area and then covering it all with new
vinyl/leather, glued down with?? I'm guessing spray adhesive.

Hadn't thought of vinyl dye for the hard plastic parts. Do you think
that would hold up better than plastic paint??

As always, thanks Jim! You are a wealth of information!

Karen
1973 23' Patience Tester


>
> Do not peal off the original pad on the pass side, I know the middle edge has lifted but you can screw it back down and fill it smooth.? Using a felt backed vinyl, I use "pleather" you can stretch it over the pad, tuck it and make over a pretty good looking dash.? The hard parts get vinyl dye with the padded parts getting a vinyl wrap.? The dash :donut" also gets wrapped.? I also dye the forward side panels on the driver & pass side.
>
> If you were near Fla. I could do it for you.? Let me know if you need more clarification,
>
> Jim Bounds

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Re: [GMCnet] Dash facelift? [message #68373 is a reply to message #68178] Fri, 25 December 2009 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks all for the pointers.
I've got it half torn up now anyway, so guess I might as well
tear it out the rest of the way and begin rehab... Won't be
any easier in the future.



> Karen,
>
> It might be possible to recover a donut without removing it from the dash,
> but it's improbable. Your description of the construction is correct: The
> donut is attached permanently to the steel panel through which the
> instruments mount, behind the plastic bezel which finishes off the front of
> the dash. That steel panel is held to the dash by a plastic structure
> behind it.
>
> When covering the donut, you need to wrap the material around the back side
> of the steel panel and glue it there -- the plastic structure will interfere
> with that with the donut installed. That alone is sufficient reason to not
> attempt it, even if there were not all the other obstructions to deal with.
>
> R&R of the instruments isn't really that big a deal.
>
> JMHO, based on having done it.
>
> Ken H.

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Re: [GMCnet] Dash facelift? [message #68398 is a reply to message #68373] Sat, 26 December 2009 12:34 Go to previous message
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It's no big deal to remove the "donut" from the dash in fact it makes it far easier when refinishing it to remove it.  The plastic supports are so britle that you really need to take it away from those funky plastic parts to finish anything.

Pulling it out, you have access to all the wiring & circuits in the dash.

Jim Bounds
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Jim Bounds
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From: KB <kab7@sonic.net>
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Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 10:55:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dash facelift?

Thanks all for the pointers.
I've got it half torn up now anyway, so guess I might as well
tear it out the rest of the way and begin rehab...  Won't be
any easier in the future.



> Karen,
>
> It might be possible to recover a donut without removing it from the dash,
> but it's improbable.  Your description of the construction is correct:  The
> donut is attached permanently to the steel panel through which the
> instruments mount, behind the plastic bezel which finishes off the front of
> the dash.  That steel panel is held to the dash by a plastic structure
> behind it.
>
> When covering the donut, you need to wrap the material around the back side
> of the steel panel and glue it there -- the plastic structure will interfere
> with that with the donut installed.  That alone is sufficient reason to not
> attempt it, even if there were not all the other obstructions to deal with.
>
> R&R of the instruments isn't really that big a deal.
>
> JMHO, based on having done it.
>
> Ken H.

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