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[GMCnet] Emergency Start Switch ( Neutral/Start/Safety Switch) [message #67982] Mon, 21 December 2009 12:43 Go to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Over the last 3 months I have been involved with 5 GMCs with starting
problems that mostly involve the Neutral/Start/Safety switch. Suggestions
like short the solenoid to the battery terminal are not my sort of thing.

There have also been other questions about how to test the solenoid and
starter to see if they were the problem.
Often folks want to advance the engine to #1 TDC and it is sort a pain to
use the key.

Last week, we went over this on the Phone to get a GMCer running in a
campground, so he could get home.

So I have added an EMERGENCY START SWITCH to my 2 GMCs so that I can tickle
the solenoid ( even at 70mph on the freeway, without trying to shift to
neutral;>) , yep that was me.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32017

I put my switches under a big red snap-down switch cover so I cannot hit it
by accident.
This is Just What I Did (JWID)


If nothing else, you should know where these connections are, and how to
reach them if you have a problem

gene


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Re: [GMCnet] Emergency Start Switch ( Neutral/Start/Safety Switch) [message #67990 is a reply to message #67982] Mon, 21 December 2009 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Gene,
Very nice presentation.

J.R.

> Over the last 3 months I have been involved with 5 GMCs with starting
> problems that mostly involve the Neutral/Start/Safety switch.
> Suggestions
> like short the solenoid to the battery terminal are not my sort of
> thing.
>
> There have also been other questions about how to test the solenoid
> and
> starter to see if they were the problem.
> Often folks want to advance the engine to #1 TDC and it is sort a
> pain to
> use the key.
>
> Last week, we went over this on the Phone to get a GMCer running in a
> campground, so he could get home.
>
> So I have added an EMERGENCY START SWITCH to my 2 GMCs so that I can
> tickle
> the solenoid ( even at 70mph on the freeway, without trying to shift
> to
> neutral;>) , yep that was me.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32017
>
> I put my switches under a big red snap-down switch cover so I cannot
> hit it
> by accident.
> This is Just What I Did (JWID)
>
>
> If nothing else, you should know where these connections are, and
> how to
> reach them if you have a problem
>
> gene
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Emergency Start Switch ( Neutral/Start/Safety Switch) [message #68009 is a reply to message #67982] Mon, 21 December 2009 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Gene,
Wait'll Chuck Garton sees that! That just maybe the only switch he
does not have in his GMC. I can see the green eyes now.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> Over the last 3 months I have been involved with 5 GMCs with starting
> problems that mostly involve the Neutral/Start/Safety switch.  Suggestions
> like short the solenoid to the battery terminal are not my sort of thing.
>
> There have also been other questions about how to test the solenoid and
> starter to see if they were the problem.
> Often folks want to advance the engine to #1 TDC and it is sort a  pain to
> use the key.
>
> Last week, we went over this on the Phone to get a GMCer running in a
> campground, so he could get home.
>
> So I have added an EMERGENCY START SWITCH to my 2 GMCs so that I can tickle
> the solenoid ( even at 70mph on the freeway, without trying to shift to
> neutral;>) , yep that was me.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32017
>
> I put my switches under a big red snap-down switch cover so I cannot hit it
> by accident.
> This is Just What I Did (JWID)
>
>
> If nothing else, you should know where these connections are, and how to
> reach them if you have a problem
>
> gene
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> Alternator Protection Cable
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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Re: [GMCnet] Emergency Start Switch ( Neutral/Start/Safety Switch) [message #68023 is a reply to message #68009] Mon, 21 December 2009 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chuck Garton is currently offline  Chuck Garton   United States
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Too late!

I eliminated the neutral start feature 15 years ago.

It is now used to cancel the cruise control if transmission is shifted
into neutral.

Chuck Garton
77 Kingsley 455
Ridgecrest, CA

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gene,
>  Wait'll Chuck Garton sees that!  That just maybe the only switch he
> does not have in his GMC.  I can see the green eyes now.
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Over the last 3 months I have been involved with 5 GMCs with starting
>> problems that mostly involve the Neutral/Start/Safety switch.  Suggestions
>> like short the solenoid to the battery terminal are not my sort of thing.
>>
>> There have also been other questions about how to test the solenoid and
>> starter to see if they were the problem.
>> Often folks want to advance the engine to #1 TDC and it is sort a  pain to
>> use the key.
>>
>> Last week, we went over this on the Phone to get a GMCer running in a
>> campground, so he could get home.
>>
>> So I have added an EMERGENCY START SWITCH to my 2 GMCs so that I can tickle
>> the solenoid ( even at 70mph on the freeway, without trying to shift to
>> neutral;>) , yep that was me.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32017
>>
>> I put my switches under a big red snap-down switch cover so I cannot hit it
>> by accident.
>> This is Just What I Did (JWID)
>>
>>
>> If nothing else, you should know where these connections are, and how to
>> reach them if you have a problem
>>
>> gene
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>> -------
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>> Alternator Protection Cable
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
>
> --
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> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
> Urethane bushing source
> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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Re: [GMCnet] Emergency Start Switch ( Neutral/Start/Safety Switch) [message #68058 is a reply to message #67990] Mon, 21 December 2009 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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thanks
have a great trip
gene




> Gene,
> Very nice presentation.
>
> J.R.
>
>
--
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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Re: [GMCnet] Emergency Start Switch ( Neutral/Start/Safety Switch) [message #68097 is a reply to message #67982] Tue, 22 December 2009 10:41 Go to previous message
Jim Wagner is currently offline  Jim Wagner   United States
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Gene
Thanks for sharing such a good idea. On both of our cruisin cars I wired a contact that I can connect a switch to with out burning my hands on the headers. The purpose is the same. Know I ask myself why didn't I just wire the switch in with the flip safety like you did. duh!! No extra switch to carry around.
This has been added to my list and I will also wire one to the GMC.
Jim Wagner
Brook Park, oh

I put my switches under a big red snap-down switch cover so I cannot hit it
by accident.
This is Just What I Did (JWID)
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