| Energizer Batteries [message #67490] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 08:45  |
petemosss
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Sam's Club no longer handles any Trojan batteries and has a 220 AH Energizer 6v for $71.00. The genius managing the department couldn't tell me anything about them or who made them.
Anybody shed any electrons on this?
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: Energizer Batteries [message #67497 is a reply to message #67490] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 10:20  |
idrob
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| petemosss wrote on Tue, 15 December 2009 06:45 |
Sam's Club no longer handles any Trojan batteries and has a 220 AH Energizer 6v for $71.00. The genius managing the department couldn't tell me anything about them or who made them.
Anybody shed any electrons on this?
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Although I personally prefer TroJan batteries, their cost increase has been very great lately. From what I have been able to tell in reading things from my solar magazine sources, if the weight of the golf cart type battery you are considering is close to that of a Trojan T 105, which is 62 pounds, the capacity will be similar. The heavier the battery, the more capacity, and the lead acid technology is fairly well developed and known, especially in the golf cart, deep cycle battery.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Energizer Batteries [message #67501 is a reply to message #67490] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 11:01 |
powerjon
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Pete,
I have had the Energizer 6VDC batteries from Sam's Club in the coach
for 2 1/2 years now without problems. At the time Sams was selling 2
different rating of this battery and the higher capacity of the two
was $5 more. Check to be sure that you are getting the higher
capacity unit. Best bang for the buck ! I replaced a set of
Interstate Batteries that lasted for 7 years. Word of wisdom (JMHO)
here is that your charging system will go a long way in determine how
long that your batteries survive. Statpower/Xantrex and Progressive
Dynamics inverter/chargers are define upgrade to the BuzzBox which by
the way makes a good battery charger for the shop or for running yard
lights at home. If you still have it you should consider getting it
out of the coach.
J.R. Wright
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> Sam's Club no longer handles any Trojan batteries and has a 220 AH
> Energizer 6v for $71.00. The genius managing the department couldn't
> tell me anything about them or who made them.
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> Anybody shed any electrons on this?
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>
> --
> Pete
> 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts [message #67502 is a reply to message #67500] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 11:05 |
GMC_LES
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I am about to raise the body off the frame so I can begin my frame work.
My coach is a 75 EL2 with the 26-3 floorplan.
How easily accessible are the body mounting bolts and how/where do I access
the bolt heads from inside the coach? I'll probably cut the old bolts from
underneath but will obviously need to insert new bolts from the top later.
Just thought I'd ask for some guidance to save myself some time and
frustration.
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
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| [GMCnet] (no subject) [message #67503 is a reply to message #67500] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 11:09 |
GMC_LES
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Does anyone have a spare set of GMC axleshafts with or without CVJs that
they are willing to part with?
I just picked up a set of Toronado CV axles and if the CVJs are good, I
would like to set them up as spares for my GMC.
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts [message #67508 is a reply to message #67502] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 12:28 |
powerjon
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Les,
I would suggest NOT cutting the bolts if at all possible. They are a
round head style bolt. If your not disassembling the interior of the
coach then they could be a issue to get to and replace without tearing
everything up.
J.R. Wright
> I am about to raise the body off the frame so I can begin my frame
> work.
> My coach is a 75 EL2 with the 26-3 floor-plan.
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> How easily accessible are the body mounting bolts and how/where do I
> access
> the bolt heads from inside the coach? I'll probably cut the old
> bolts from
> underneath but will obviously need to insert new bolts from the top
> later.
>
> Just thought I'd ask for some guidance to save myself some time and
> frustration.
>
> Thanks,
> Les Burt
> Montreal
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts [message #67509 is a reply to message #67502] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 13:08 |
Rick Denney
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Les Burt writes...
> I am about to raise the body off the frame so I can begin my frame work.
> My coach is a 75 EL2 with the 26-3 floorplan.
> How easily accessible are the body mounting bolts and how/where do I access
> the bolt heads from inside the coach? I'll probably cut the old bolts from
> underneath but will obviously need to insert new bolts from the top later.
There are two large bolts in the rear and two in the front. The front
ones are fully accessible from under the coach in the engine
compartment. The rear ones will require you to remove the interior
trim down where the sloped floor meets the rear cap. Here's a picture
of the bolt from the inside of a junk coach--the open space in the
picture is looking out through the (now empty and mostly removed)
generator compartment. The large bolt at left is one of the two body
bolts. As you can see, you need a wrench on the top and another on the
bottom for both removale and reinstallation. I can think of no reason
to cut these--they are bit enough that with sufficient soaking with
Kroil will be able to come loose. A few pictures previously in the
album you'll see that I loosened one of them using a 3/4" ratchet
handle.
Then, there are a number of clips on the underside where the aluminum
floor joists are clipped to the frame. I believe those are all
accessible from underneath. Again, do what you can to avoid having to
ruin the bolts. I would even consider using a casher die to clean off
any visible threads, in addition to the wire brush and Kroil
treatment.
Rick "who has NOT done this, but who HAS removed those four big bolts"
Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] (no subject) [message #67518 is a reply to message #67503] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 14:52 |
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Les,
Contact Micheal Bozardt in Houston if nobody responds.
(713) 373-7775
gemrecs@yahoo.com
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 4:10 AM
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Subject: [GMCnet] (no subject)
Does anyone have a spare set of GMC axleshafts with or without CVJs that
they are willing to part with?
I just picked up a set of Toronado CV axles and if the CVJs are good, I
would like to set them up as spares for my GMC.
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts [message #67522 is a reply to message #67509] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 15:14 |
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USAussie
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G'day Rick,
What's a "casher die?" I did a Google search and searched McMaster-Carr but
nothing came up.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Rick Denney
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 6:09 AM
To: Les Burt
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts
I would even consider using a casher die to clean off any visible threads,
in addition to the wire brush and Kroil treatment.
Rick "who has NOT done this, but who HAS removed those four big bolts"
Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts [message #67524 is a reply to message #67502] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 15:37 |
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I was wondering the same thing, so I googled it, to no avail.
But I did a search for thread cleaning and there are lots of posts about using wire brushes to clean the threads. That got me thinking about my battery brush and how handy it would be to something like that in few different sizes for bolts and nuts. I also have a pipe fitter's brush for copper pipe, but nothing small enough for most of our bolts. If it were an attachment to my drill I could really clean up some threads fast!
Any thoughts?
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
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From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:14:05 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts
G'day Rick,
What's a "casher die?" I did a Google search and searched McMaster-Carr but
nothing came up.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Energizer Batteries [message #67535 is a reply to message #67490] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 16:22 |
petemosss
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Dan,
Please explain. I have a 1000cca engine and a 125AH 12v deep up front (for non engine cockpit electronics) and was planning on the 2 energizers in back.
I do have separate Guest marine AB switches on firewall separating front from back deep cycle and engine battery from both front and back deep cycles. I have a 3rd between the engine battery and the start solenoid too. Charging is covered with a PD unit. I called PD early one morning last year and the Plant Mgr. answered the phone and said he had spent 15 yrs in engineering before mfg. job. He said the 12's and the 6's are read by the PD units as one battery and averaged?
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts [message #67537 is a reply to message #67522] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 16:26 |
Rick Denney
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Rob Mueller writes...
> What's a "casher die?" I did a Google search and searched McMaster-Carr but
> nothing came up.
You can buy a casher die at Harbor Freight. "Will that be casher
credit?"
No? Okay...would you believe...
"chaser die", as in chasing the threads?
Rick "who sometimes has to chase threads all up and down the driveway"
Denney
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body mounting bolts [message #67544 is a reply to message #67537] |
Tue, 15 December 2009 16:54 |
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Pete, I was told not to mix a 12 volt with the 6 volts but I had a new 12 volt when I got the 6 volts. So, I hooked them all together, paralleled the 6 volts with the 12 volt. It proved to not be a good mix and life of the batteries were certainly shortened. Now, if I had kept them seperate, the 6 and 12, with a combiner I would have been fine. But, I wanted them all together. If you want to use the 12 for a different set of accessories just put a combiner in. What that will do is keep the batteries seperate except when charging, which is fine, as the fella at PD told you. It is like seperating your engine battery from the house batteries except when charging. Now, I have a lawnmower battery for the Onan, 74 model. I have a combiner there so no draw comes from that battery except for starting the Onan. When charge is coming in it will be charged with all of the other batteries. Mine is not charged by the Onan. Our coach is equipped with the PD 45, solar panels, Onan to run the PD, and of course we can plug it into ac to run the PD. Any time any of these are present all batteries charge. The charge leaves, the combiner seperates the batteries.
I hope this makes sense. Email me at gregg_dan at hotmail.com if you want.
Dan
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