| [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch Trans Manuals [message #65095] |
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USAussie
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G'day,
For those of you that would like to have .pdf copies of the:
1966 & 1967 Oldsmobile Toronado 3.21 to 1 Final Drive Manual (5 MB)
1966 & 1967 Oldsmobile Toronado Switch Pitch Transmission Manual (22 MB)
They can be downloaded from:
http://public.me.com/emerystora/
Wait for a few moments until you see Public(emerystora) in the column on the
left and they'll appear.
If they don't appear click on the symbol of the arrow pointing into the tray
and they will.
Highlight the file you want and click on it and another window opens, click
on Download.
They will be left posted for a couple of weeks.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch Trans Manuals [message #65140 is a reply to message #65095] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 22:17  |
Chr$
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Thanks for that. the email didn't come through, but this downloaded in a jiffy. I have what I need now. One question, I removed the 9/16 retaining bolt, is the left hand shact supposed to come out easily or do I need a jacking bolt to draw it off? It does not come out.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch Trans Manuals [message #65235 is a reply to message #65169] |
Sat, 21 November 2009 19:37 |
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Manny, something is holding that sucker in! I tried to entice it with a mallet, pry it with a board, etc. I was gentle, maybe it needs more "assistance" the RH pops right out.
The grease under the bearing caps was like molasses, probably just stuck.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch Trans Manuals [message #65236 is a reply to message #65235] |
Sat, 21 November 2009 19:38 |
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If I thread a longer bolt in, do you think it will drive it off the splines, like a gear puller does? Any chance to damage what's inside doing that?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch Trans Manuals [message #65287 is a reply to message #65280] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 12:16 |
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| mannystrans wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 10:45 |
Lets start over.
There is what looks like a bolt screwed from the outside into the
middle of the lh shaft. Its actually a check valve and that is how it
stops from building pressure inside the final drive. The bolt holding
the lh shaft is on the inside and its torqued to 45-50 psi. In order
to take the bolt out, you either need an impact or secure the shaft
from rotating. Its also a special bolt, for it has a hole through the
middle. Once the bolt is out, there is nothing else holding the shaft
in. The splines are not a tight fit so the shaft should slide right
out.
You mentioned using a longer bolt to push the shaft out. If you can
get one three inches long, thread an inch into the shaft and tap the
head of the bolt, it should push the shaft out.
Good luck and let us know.
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Manny Trovao
mannystrans@hughes.net
Manny's Trans / Power Drive
San Jose, California
408-937-1583
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Nice explanation Manny!! Gonna make an educator out of you yet...
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch TransManuals [message #65297 is a reply to message #65280] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 14:08 |
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Manny / Chris,
Here's a copy of the parts list showing the bolt Manny is talking about. It
took forever to find the bloody thing! It's in the steering section of the
parts manual!
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31744
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Manny Trovao
Sent: Monday, 23 November 2009 3:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch
TransManuals
Lets start over.
There is what looks like a bolt screwed from the outside into the
middle of the lh shaft. Its actually a check valve and that is how it
stops from building pressure inside the final drive. The bolt holding
the lh shaft is on the inside and its torqued to 45-50 psi. In order
to take the bolt out, you either need an impact or secure the shaft
from rotating. Its also a special bolt, for it has a hole through the
middle. Once the bolt is out, there is nothing else holding the shaft
in. The splines are not a tight fit so the shaft should slide right
out.
You mentioned using a longer bolt to push the shaft out. If you can
get one three inches long, thread an inch into the shaft and tap the
head of the bolt, it should push the shaft out.
Good luck and let us know.
--
Manny Trovao
mannystrans@hughes.net
Manny's Trans / Power Drive
San Jose, California
408-937-1583
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch TransManuals [message #65303 is a reply to message #65297] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 16:14 |
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I tried that one, I think I need to Bolt the LH flange to something to get enough torque on that. Thanks, I'll try that sucker again.
| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 13:08 |
Manny / Chris,
Here's a copy of the parts list showing the bolt Manny is talking about. It
took forever to find the bloody thing! It's in the steering section of the
parts manual!
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31744
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Manny Trovao
Sent: Monday, 23 November 2009 3:45 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch
TransManuals
Lets start over.
There is what looks like a bolt screwed from the outside into the
middle of the lh shaft. Its actually a check valve and that is how it
stops from building pressure inside the final drive. The bolt holding
the lh shaft is on the inside and its torqued to 45-50 psi. In order
to take the bolt out, you either need an impact or secure the shaft
from rotating. Its also a special bolt, for it has a hole through the
middle. Once the bolt is out, there is nothing else holding the shaft
in. The splines are not a tight fit so the shaft should slide right
out.
You mentioned using a longer bolt to push the shaft out. If you can
get one three inches long, thread an inch into the shaft and tap the
head of the bolt, it should push the shaft out.
Good luck and let us know.
--
Manny Trovao
mannystrans@hughes.net
Manny's Trans / Power Drive
San Jose, California
408-937-1583
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-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toronado 3.21 Final Drive and Switch Pitch Trans Manuals [message #65317 is a reply to message #65095] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 18:00 |
Chr$
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Got it. Had to bolt a piece of unistrut to the flange to lock it down. Came loose very easily at that point.
Bearings seem ok. there was some evidence of moisture near the seals. the LH seal was very stuck to the housing. Took a bit more than usual to pop it off.
I may take it to a trans/rear end shop to get an opinion of whether it needs any rebuild or not, but everything seems to rotate freely and smoothly with no roughness.
Jeez, is everything in this thing fine-threaded??? 
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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