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was just thinking of relocating my air comp to under the dinette seat right behind the pass seat, this should protect it from damage, as my new airzenith is getting quite dirty in the stock location... has anyone else ever moved their AC inside?
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63571 is a reply to message #63564] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 11:18  |
powerjon
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In the later coaches it is located in the back with the solenoids.
J.R. Wright
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> was just thinking of relocating my air comp to under the dinette
> seat right behind the pass seat, this should protect it from damage,
> as my new airzenith is getting quite dirty in the stock location...
> has anyone else ever moved their AC inside?
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63583 is a reply to message #63564] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 12:10 |
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a little noise from the compressor is better than an air leak that you don't know you have.
Ed Wilks
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63597 is a reply to message #63564] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 14:35 |
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Shan,
You don't note the year of your GMC or where the compressor is now so I will
assume it has a Power Level system with the compressor up front on the left
(drivers) side.
I don't think dirt on the outside of the compressor is that much to worry
about unless it gets caked on. However, sucking dirt into it is not a good
thing. I installed a remote intake kit when I was at the COOP. At first I
ran the tube and filter inside behind the dash but after letting it run for
about 30 seconds I knew the noise would drive me nuts. I then located the
filter as high as I could under the hood to the right of the windshield
wiper motor. It is tucked way up in the corner above the upper part of the
hood so water doesn't pour in on it when it rains. Unfortunately I didn't
take any pictures and as of the moment I am in Sydney and the GMC is in
Houston.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Shan Rose
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 4:04 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside?
was just thinking of relocating my air comp to under the dinette seat right
behind the pass seat, this should protect it from damage, as my new
airzenith is getting quite dirty in the stock location... has anyone else
ever moved their AC inside?
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63636 is a reply to message #63597] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 21:07 |
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oh yes silly of me, its a 73' canyon lands. the Dana is in storage, and I have a nice petty new air zenith which pumps the bags up in about a minute, and powers a K3HA Nathan Airchime I installed (more on that later) anyhow I was looking at the comp and its filter is mounted right on the compressor head though I could remote mount it if I wanted to, but the PS gear box is leaking a bit and fine oil mist is getting on the compressor and attracting all kinds of dirt. its not a very loud compressor, so moving it inside im thinking might not be a bad idea. im thinking of adding a second or third one and some larger air tanks for the airchimes, and even an onboard air system which can run air tools and fill tires and such...
will have to do another post on the install of the air chimes, they are awesome when it comes to getting that huge costco truck out of your way 
| Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 14:35 |
Shan,
You don't note the year of your GMC or where the compressor is now so I will
assume it has a Power Level system with the compressor up front on the left
(drivers) side.
I don't think dirt on the outside of the compressor is that much to worry
about unless it gets caked on. However, sucking dirt into it is not a good
thing. I installed a remote intake kit when I was at the COOP. At first I
ran the tube and filter inside behind the dash but after letting it run for
about 30 seconds I knew the noise would drive me nuts. I then located the
filter as high as I could under the hood to the right of the windshield
wiper motor. It is tucked way up in the corner above the upper part of the
hood so water doesn't pour in on it when it rains. Unfortunately I didn't
take any pictures and as of the moment I am in Sydney and the GMC is in
Houston.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Shan Rose
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 4:04 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside?
was just thinking of relocating my air comp to under the dinette seat right
behind the pass seat, this should protect it from damage, as my new
airzenith is getting quite dirty in the stock location... has anyone else
ever moved their AC inside?
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63642 is a reply to message #63636] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 21:23 |
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USAussie
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Shan,
Double Trouble has an old Thomas compressor and what put me off was the
sound of the air sucking in the intake. Very annoying!
Obviously you can remove it and wire it up inside and see what it sounds
like in there.
As far as the Nathan Airchime goes I said to myself why the hell does this
guy want CHIMES on his GMC is he going to use it as an ice cream truck?
I did a Google search and found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdUumkozS_I
I WANT ONE! NO TWO one for both GMC's! You blow one of these and drivers
will poop their pants!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Shan Rose
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 2:07 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside?
oh yes silly of me, its a 73' canyon lands. the Dana is in storage, and I
have a nice petty new air zenith which pumps the bags up in about a minute,
and powers a K3HA Nathan Airchime I installed (more on that later) anyhow I
was looking at the comp and its filter is mounted right on the compressor
head though I could remote mount it if I wanted to, but the PS gear box is
leaking a bit and fine oil mist is getting on the compressor and attracting
all kinds of dirt. its not a very loud compressor, so moving it inside im
thinking might not be a bad idea. im thinking of adding a second or third
one and some larger air tanks for the airchimes, and even an onboard air
system which can run air tools and fill tires and such...
will have to do another post on the install of the air chimes, they are
awesome when it comes to getting that huge costco truck out of your way :)
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: moving air compressor inside? [message #63645 is a reply to message #63564] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 21:59 |
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| Duce Apocalypse wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 09:03 |
was just thinking of relocating my air comp to under the dinette seat right behind the pass seat, this should protect it from damage, as my new airzenith is getting quite dirty in the stock location... has anyone else ever moved their AC inside?
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I put mine inside next to the drivers seat. It was protected there and didn't run much so the noise was ok by me. I believe the current owner felt different, and has moved it somewhere else, or is back to the original, which I left in place under the hood.
Photos:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4023
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63651 is a reply to message #63642] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 05:31 |
mlincoln
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And this one...watch through to the end where the guy vibrates objects
and dust off of a nearby car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFIJcqk8nw
Potentially a great boon for freeway merges?
On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Shan,
>
> Double Trouble has an old Thomas compressor and what put me off was
> the
> sound of the air sucking in the intake. Very annoying!
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> Obviously you can remove it and wire it up inside and see what it
> sounds
> like in there.
>
> As far as the Nathan Airchime goes I said to myself why the hell
> does this
> guy want CHIMES on his GMC is he going to use it as an ice cream
> truck?
>
> I did a Google search and found this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdUumkozS_I
>
> I WANT ONE! NO TWO one for both GMC's! You blow one of these and
> drivers
> will poop their pants!
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Shan Rose
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 2:07 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside?
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> oh yes silly of me, its a 73' canyon lands. the Dana is in storage,
> and I
> have a nice petty new air zenith which pumps the bags up in about a
> minute,
> and powers a K3HA Nathan Airchime I installed (more on that later)
> anyhow I
> was looking at the comp and its filter is mounted right on the
> compressor
> head though I could remote mount it if I wanted to, but the PS gear
> box is
> leaking a bit and fine oil mist is getting on the compressor and
> attracting
> all kinds of dirt. its not a very loud compressor, so moving it
> inside im
> thinking might not be a bad idea. im thinking of adding a second or
> third
> one and some larger air tanks for the airchimes, and even an onboard
> air
> system which can run air tools and fill tires and such...
>
> will have to do another post on the install of the air chimes, they
> are
> awesome when it comes to getting that huge costco truck out of your
> way :)
>
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63681 is a reply to message #63642] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 10:34 |
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check eBay, I got my nathans brand new for $380, though thats a really good price, usually they go for 500-600 referbished. but thanks to the crappy economy deals can be had. basically I like the sound of the K3 Nathans the best, these are the same horns found on many north american locomotives, and if you can feed it enough air, can be insanely loud! the stock airtank is enough for a quick tut tut, or a 4-5 second blast. the best way to sound these horns is with a manual metering valve like the Salem 353-100 valve which is what they use on a loco. I didnt have the $200 for the salem valve so I rigged up a manual airvalve for an air compressor from home depot for $7.99, and with a little practice flairing the air flow, you can make it sound just like a train. Nathan AC's will sound with as little as 30# of air, while reaching max volume around 140#, its the flow that determins how loud it is, Im feeding mine with a 3/8 line, but the restrictive oraface of the 1/4 I have plimbed into the tank and air valve limit my flow somewhat. I will eventually add a 5 gallon tank and the proper 1/2 lines. I have used my horns usually for display and fun mostly, friends get a kick out of the party bus with train horns, but on 2 occations it did motivate an idiot driver to get out of my way. one was a guy who almost cut me off, but stopped as soon as he heard a train, amd the second was going down an graded onramp with some woman in a new VW bug slowing down to stop in the carpool lane of the onramp even though everyone knows you dont have to stop in those lanes! turns out she was on her phone(These kinds of idiot drivers are especially concentrated in LA) so I flaired the Nathans like a loco engineer and she actually turned around and looked at me and scrambled outta my way, when I passed her she blaired the annoying little "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep" horn from the bug which I responded wit ha quick Toot toot from the Nathans at about 60 mph. the real beauty of these horns is unlike the stock horns, these can actually be heard at highway speeds! really good if some idiot cuts you off or swerves into your lane. yeah best $380 I ever spent, im totally satisfied hehe
| Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 21:23 |
Shan,
Double Trouble has an old Thomas compressor and what put me off was the
sound of the air sucking in the intake. Very annoying!
Obviously you can remove it and wire it up inside and see what it sounds
like in there.
As far as the Nathan Airchime goes I said to myself why the hell does this
guy want CHIMES on his GMC is he going to use it as an ice cream truck?
I did a Google search and found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdUumkozS_I
I WANT ONE! NO TWO one for both GMC's! You blow one of these and drivers
will poop their pants!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Shan Rose
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 2:07 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside?
oh yes silly of me, its a 73' canyon lands. the Dana is in storage, and I
have a nice petty new air zenith which pumps the bags up in about a minute,
and powers a K3HA Nathan Airchime I installed (more on that later) anyhow I
was looking at the comp and its filter is mounted right on the compressor
head though I could remote mount it if I wanted to, but the PS gear box is
leaking a bit and fine oil mist is getting on the compressor and attracting
all kinds of dirt. its not a very loud compressor, so moving it inside im
thinking might not be a bad idea. im thinking of adding a second or third
one and some larger air tanks for the airchimes, and even an onboard air
system which can run air tools and fill tires and such...
will have to do another post on the install of the air chimes, they are
awesome when it comes to getting that huge costco truck out of your way
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73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: moving air compressor inside? [message #63755 is a reply to message #63564] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 19:46 |
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In addition to moving my compressor inside I made a vacuum reservoir out of a 2 foot piece of 4" dia schedule 40 PVC sewer pipe. I sealed a cap on each end and drilled and tapped one cap for a vacuum line. I mounted this to the crossmember behind the grill with 3 SS hose clamps. Vacuum pump hasn't had to work since.
Glenn Giere
Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG
'73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #63761 is a reply to message #63699] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 20:23 |
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Actually, only one of those were a nathan, the other is sold by matt heller of HornBlasters.com (they sell nathans too but mark them up a lot) they have a bunch of funny videos of them tooting the horns at unsuspecting people in south FL. the Hornblaster horn has a deeper tone, and sounds similar to a train horn, but cant match the volume and pitch of the Nathan, which use spun aluminum bells, versus ABS for the cheaper hornblasters set, though if on a budget the hornblasters set isnt a bad horn at all, but if you are patient, you can get the real deal nathans for about the same price as the HB kit. all I gotta say is I now desire a set of K3 horns on every vehicle I drive, since often my stok horn gets ignored by people on the phone with the windows up and stereo blasting. nathans demand that you will be heard, the only thing is you have to use with some common sense, honking those after hours will get you a disturbing the peace ticket, for that reason I still have the stock horn for late at night city use, on the highway, all is fair game
| Mike Miller wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 12:13 |
| Duce Apocalypse wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 19:07 |
oh yes silly of me, its a 73' canyon lands. the Dana is in storage, and I have a nice petty new air zenith which pumps the bags up in about a minute, and powers a K3HA Nathan Airchime I installed ...
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Compare the stock "truck" horn (electric) to 2 different Nathons:
<http://www.trucktrainhorns.com/info/?p=37>
While used often on the computer, it is very rare for me to actually "laugh out loud." 
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73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #64024 is a reply to message #63636] |
Thu, 12 November 2009 13:28 |
Terry Skinner
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Pictures of the airchime??
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Shan Rose <defconfx@gmail.com> wrote:
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> oh yes silly of me, its a 73' canyon lands. the Dana is in storage, and I have a nice petty new air zenith which pumps the bags up in about a minute, and powers a K3HA Nathan Airchime I installed (more on that later) anyhow I was looking at the comp and its filter is mounted right on the compressor head though I could remote mount it if I wanted to, but the PS gear box is leaking a bit and fine oil mist is getting on the compressor and attracting all kinds of dirt. its not a very loud compressor, so moving it inside im thinking might not be a bad idea. im thinking of adding a second or third one and some larger air tanks for the airchimes, and even an onboard air system which can run air tools and fill tires and such...
>
> will have to do another post on the install of the air chimes, they are awesome when it comes to getting that huge costco truck out of your way :)
>
>
> Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 14:35
>> Shan,
>>
>> You don't note the year of your GMC or where the compressor is now so I will
>> assume it has a Power Level system with the compressor up front on the left
>> (drivers) side.
>>
>> I don't think dirt on the outside of the compressor is that much to worry
>> about unless it gets caked on. However, sucking dirt into it is not a good
>> thing. I installed a remote intake kit when I was at the COOP. At first I
>> ran the tube and filter inside behind the dash but after letting it run for
>> about 30 seconds I knew the noise would drive me nuts. I then located the
>> filter as high as I could under the hood to the right of the windshield
>> wiper motor. It is tucked way up in the corner above the upper part of the
>> hood so water doesn't pour in on it when it rains. Unfortunately I didn't
>> take any pictures and as of the moment I am in Sydney and the GMC is in
>> Houston.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob Mueller
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Shan Rose
>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 4:04 AM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside?
>>
>>
>>
>> was just thinking of relocating my air comp to under the dinette seat right
>> behind the pass seat, this should protect it from damage, as my new
>> airzenith is getting quite dirty in the stock location... has anyone else
>> ever moved their AC inside?
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside? [message #64079 is a reply to message #64077] |
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Shan,
How loud is it INSIDE the GMC? No point putting one of these puppies on if
it deafens YOU!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Shan Rose
Sent: Friday, 13 November 2009 1:19 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] moving air compressor inside?
well since you all requested it, heres a video of one of the first sound
tests from over 1/4 mile away, note my girlfriend's commentary after I honk
the horn...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVcUrqGUQQU
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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