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Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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I picked up a pair of tailights at the mens mall today. you cannot beat 50% off tuesday and thursdays. Got one for free!!

$26 out the door for two.

Now, I have looked at the two methods. Cut the lights and cut the body. I am leaning towards cut the body to take advantage of the new sockets, but to those of you who have, any leaks?

Do they stick farther into the coach? I have my water tank behind the pass side, with a cutout, but designed for the old lights.

Comments?

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62366 is a reply to message #62354] Thu, 29 October 2009 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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also gives you new reflectors, or you have to use tinfoil if you cut the
reflector off of the lens.
http://gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#tail


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> Now, I have looked at the two methods. Cut the lights and cut the body. I
> am leaning towards cut the body to take advantage of the new sockets, but to
> those of you who have, any leaks?
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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62370 is a reply to message #62354] Thu, 29 October 2009 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris, I took a hacksaw blade and cut the back off the new ones and screwed them right on. I used no tinfoil. Never heard of that before. I have good tail and brake lights and they don't leak. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62372 is a reply to message #62370] Thu, 29 October 2009 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris,
We see lot of coaches that come in with the newer tail lights
Having seen them both ways, I tend to lean to the way your going to do
it with the full lens assembly and cut the back panel. This should not
effect the rear area as it does not protrude in that much more than
the origina




l.

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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62373 is a reply to message #62354] Thu, 29 October 2009 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris,

Here's what I did to "cut the body":

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5307

Click on the individual pictures of the left and right lenses and read the
narrative.

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Subject: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body"

I picked up a pair of tailights at the mens mall today. you cannot beat 50%
off tuesday and thursdays. Got one for free!!

$26 out the door for two.

Now, I have looked at the two methods. Cut the lights and cut the body. I am
leaning towards cut the body to take advantage of the new sockets, but to
those of you who have, any leaks?

Do they stick farther into the coach? I have my water tank behind the pass
side, with a cutout, but desined for the old lights.

Comments?

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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62411 is a reply to message #62354] Fri, 30 October 2009 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris,
What kind (year/make) of tail lights did you use?

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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62414 is a reply to message #62411] Fri, 30 October 2009 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*Tail light lenses* - 70s Chevy and GMC vans are the same. '80s full size
vans use new style that can be adapted to the motorhome.

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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62418 is a reply to message #62411] Fri, 30 October 2009 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They are off of late 80's/early 90's chevy conversion vans. I took one from each van, both from the left side, but I actually have a right and a left. (!!)

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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62423 is a reply to message #62354] Fri, 30 October 2009 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As long as you've got it apart, why not convert to LED's. I got a set of LED trailer lights, took them apart, pulled the electronics out and mounted them behind the new 80's lenses. Works pretty good.

Larry Smile
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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62424 is a reply to message #62423] Fri, 30 October 2009 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ooooh - any pictures?

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> set of LED trailer lights, took them apart, pulled the electronics
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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62427 is a reply to message #62423] Fri, 30 October 2009 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Larry wrote on Fri, 30 October 2009 10:50

As long as you've got it apart, why not convert to LED's. I got a set of LED trailer lights, took them apart, pulled the electronics out and mounted them behind the new 80's lenses. Works pretty good.

Yeah, Harbor freight has a nice set, but I am contemplating just using the LED bulbs they sell at Checker auto parts...

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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62437 is a reply to message #62423] Fri, 30 October 2009 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got a set of LED trailer lights, took them apart, pulled the electronics out and mounted them behind the new 80's lenses. Works pretty good.
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That's thinking out of the box.

Do the lens cut down on the light output from the leds?

I heard something about a problem with the LED light conflicting with the Lens red filters, cutting the output down.

Did you notice any of this??

Did you have any problems with the turn signal after you did this??

or Cruise control??


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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62456 is a reply to message #62354] Fri, 30 October 2009 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found the new taillight assembly at this site:
http://www.go-part.com/8596-chevrolet-chevy-tail-light-rear-lamp-right-passenger-p-15329.html

Is there a difference in the right and left sided assemblies? It would be nice to upgrade from the original look, and it looks like you can cut down the original bodywork fairly easily to make these fit. LED bulbs may also be a nice upgrade, but first I have to get the assemblies.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach

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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62457 is a reply to message #62354] Fri, 30 October 2009 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry, are you using the Rostra cruise control?
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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62467 is a reply to message #62456] Fri, 30 October 2009 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George,

Yes, there is a difference in the curvature of the right and left lights.
Anticipating your next question; nope I don't remember if it makes a
difference or not but I "THINK" it does! ;-)

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Sydney, Australia
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I found the new taillight assembly at this site:
http://www.go-part.com/8596-chevrolet-chevy-tail-light-rear-lamp-right-passe
nger-p-15329.html.

Is there a difference in the right and left sided assemblies? It would be
nice to upgrade from the original look, and it looks like you can cut down
the original bodywork fairly easily to make these fit. LED bulbs may also
be a nice upgrade, but first I have to get the assemblies.
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Re: "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62491 is a reply to message #62456] Fri, 30 October 2009 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NO QUESTION that there is a differance left to right. .did mine
this summer. Definately cut the coach...I used a roto zip type
tool...went vary well. There is a good example in an earliar post...I used spring clips as ancors, and had to do some minor
mods to the light screw holes to get them to line up, but all
very do able. All the nessasary light bulb holders are avalable
at all good auto parts outlets.....Wish I knew how to post pics
as all of what I did lives in "my picturs" on my laptop but the
"how to" eludes me.
Dan

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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62513 is a reply to message #62467] Fri, 30 October 2009 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 30 October 2009 15:53

Yes, there is a difference in the curvature of the right and left lights.
Anticipating your next question; nope I don't remember if it makes a difference or not but I "THINK" it does! Wink


Does anyone have pictures of the difference(s) between right and left?

I have a set (I hope) around here (somewhere) that I'll eventually install. It might be an idea to install right into right and left into left... Smile

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Re: [GMCnet] "Cut the Lights" or "Cut the Body" [message #62514 is a reply to message #62513] Fri, 30 October 2009 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike Miller wrote on Fri, 30 October 2009 19:29

Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 30 October 2009 15:53

Yes, there is a difference in the curvature of the right and left lights.
Anticipating your next question; nope I don't remember if it makes a difference or not but I "THINK" it does! Wink


Does anyone have pictures of the difference(s) between right and left?

I have a set (I hope) around here (somewhere) that I'll eventually install. It might be an idea to install right into right and left into left... Smile



They are embossed on the front "R" "L". the bolt pattern is the same, the bulbs are canted outwards slightly...

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The web site I found does have both sides available. This seems like a very nice and simple upgrade to the look of the taillights.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach

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>
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> They are embossed on the front "R" "L". the bolt pattern is the same, the
> bulbs are canted outwards slightly...
>

and if you look at the part removed (see link) you will see the spacers for
the attachment bolts were different length and when the reflector was cut
off only the long ones went with the cut off reflector
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=7747&size=medium

so there was a R and L but after you cut off the bulb sockets, and the
spacers, now they are the same - "no worries mate" ;>)

gene



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