| [GMCnet] GMC Trivia [message #62007] |
Tue, 27 October 2009 18:48  |
David L Greenberg
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:35:29 -0500 David <75glenbrook@gmail.com> writes:
> I was always curious to how many glenbrooks, palm beach, kingsley,
> ect, ect ,ect were produced
> not only how many were produced each year but an actual break down
> of
> models.. don't know if that info is available.
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> be neat to see how unique each of us are.
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> David
> 75 Glenbrook
> Broken Arrow, OK
> http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
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David, check out the Registry web site Trivia Page for an Officially un
Official number. I've had these numbers for so many years I can't
attribute them. I actually have TZEs that range higher than the annual
build for each year but it is possible some numbers were 'retired' or
struck from assignment. Pur speculation on my part. Bill Bryant and I
have talked for years about finding that one person at GM T & C that was
responsible for assigning the TZEs.
David Lee Greenberg
Port St Lucie, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Trivia [message #62014 is a reply to message #62007] |
Tue, 27 October 2009 20:27  |
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Matt Colie
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| David L Greenberg wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 19:48 |
David, check out the Registry web site Trivia Page for an Officially un-Official number. I've had these numbers for so many years I can't attribute them. I actually have TZEs that range higher than the annual build for each year but it is possible some numbers were 'retired' or struck from assignment. Pure speculation on my part. Bill Bryant and I have talked for years about finding that one person at GM T & C that was responsible for assigning the TZEs.
David Lee Greenberg
Port St Lucie, FL
Dedicated to the Preservation of the Classic GMC Motorhome
http://GMCmhRegistry.com
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David,
Only a a little over a decade gone, I was responsible for the building for a pre-production run of first engines and then entire vehicles. I did not assign the VIN that was to be built, but it was assigned very early in the sequence. The VIN was tied inextricably to the BOM. If there was a issue that would prevent the vehicle with the assigned VIN from assembly by the existing BOM, then the VIN and BOM would both be voided.
I know for a fact that the same is true of in an at-rate line assembly situation. With very little exception, the vehicles were assembled sequentially by vehicle identifier (the last six digits - the other eleven characters are model identifier). Again, if a corporate build (not a customer order because the VIN was already sold) got in the way of a running change, it might well be voided and a new VIN assigned for build at a later time. An OE has got to be able to track all the parts installed by that VIN. Once it rolls out the plant door, that VIN is all that can be used to establish the location of a variation (good or bad) of a production component.
There was probably more than a single individual assigning VINs to TZE builds, but there was undoubtedly a very strict protocol and a (COBOL) computer program that was tallying the entire thing.
So, believe the production volumes you have. Those are probably correct. If one model year seems to run over, then there is also probably a hole in the VINs of that model year.
If you didn't follow all this, I will try again. I think I did understand it - Once.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Trivia [message #62021 is a reply to message #62014] |
Tue, 27 October 2009 21:13 |
Dennis S
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To quote Goober on the Andy Griffith show "Say that again."
Dennis
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Trivia
David L Greenberg wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 19:48
David, check out the Registry web site Trivia Page for an Officially
n-Official number. I've had these numbers for so many years I can't attribute
hem. I actually have TZEs that range higher than the annual build for each
ear but it is possible some numbers were 'retired' or struck from assignment.
ure speculation on my part. Bill Bryant and I have talked for years about
inding that one person at GM T & C that was responsible for assigning the TZEs.
David Lee Greenberg
Port St Lucie, FL
Dedicated to the Preservation of the Classic GMC Motorhome
http://GMCmhRegistry.com
David,
Only a a little over a decade gone, I was responsible for the building for a
re-production run of first engines and then entire vehicles. I did not assign
he VIN that was to be built, but it was assigned very early in the sequence.
he VIN was tied inextricably to the BOM. If there was a issue that would
revent the vehicle with the assigned VIN from assembly by the existing BOM,
hen the VIN and BOM would both be voided.
I know for a fact that the same is true of in an at-rate line assembly
ituation. With very little exception, the vehicles were assembled sequentially
y vehicle identifier (the last six digits - the other eleven characters are
odel identifier). Again, if a corporate build (not a customer order because
he VIN was already sold) got in the way of a running change, it might well be
oided and a new VIN assigned for build at a later time. An OE has got to be
ble to track all the parts installed by that VIN. Once it rolls out the plant
oor, that VIN is all that can be used to establish the location of a variation
good or bad) of a production component.
There was probably more than a single individual assigning VINs to TZE builds,
ut there was undoubtedly a very strict protocol and a (COBOL) computer program
hat was tallying the entire thing.
So, believe the production volumes you have. Those are probably correct. If
ne model year seems to run over, then there is also probably a hole in the VINs
f that model year.
If you didn't follow all this, I will try again. I think I did understand it -
nce.
Matt
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att & Mary Colie
73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
E Michigan
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