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| [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts [message #58988] |
Sun, 04 October 2009 12:07  |
Gary Worobec
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Some Pueblo thoughts.. ....
1. First..Left Friday from Peublo to Sante Fe. Easy trip. Stayed at Sante Fe Skies RV park. Also spent some time in a bar in Madrid (about 14 miles away) where they filmed some of the movie "Wild Hogs".
2. Left Sante Fe early Saturday morning, caught the end of the ballon festival "mass ascension". Pretty awesome, about 100 ballons in the sky when we went through Alberquerque.
3. Put the hammer down and went non-stop Sante Fe to SoCal. About 800 miles. Got home about 11:00 pm. Big headwinds coming across the I-40. Mileage really sucked. Used a half quart of oil and leaked a 1/2 pint of transmission fluid. Not bad and better than I thought.
4. The rally....Very well organized. Thank you to JR. Slaten and his crew.
5. The sessions were on time and very well managed.
6. Rob Mueller knows how to run a session meeting.
7. If you go to one of the sessions you like, take copious notes. Most of the good stuff comes from the "off the cuff" comments from the presenter.
8. The value of Dick Patersons engine building session is in being there. NO amount of handouts, PowerPoints or recordings can do it justice. You have to listen to Dick in person to fully appreciate what the guy does to a 455.
9. Food was tasty and filling. Morning coffee and donuts excellent.
10. Always wear your name badge or you will be scorned.
11. I didn't know that Emery Stora was such a fun loving guy.
12. Fin Beven makes great Margaritas.
13. The coaches were kind of spread out but the electrical, water, sewer connections were first rate.
14. I bought a digital converter box and an antenna and got excellent local TV reception. A government program that WORKED!!!
15. We went to Canon City and went on the Royal Gorge train ride. Very nice way to spend an afternoon.
16. Went to Colorado Springs and visited the Garden of the Gods park. Spectacular scenery.
17. Bought a combiner from JimK in the vendors area. I still don't understand some of Jim's analogy's. Hope that Jim gets his coach running as good as his pinewood derby racer.
18. Continue to thank Steve Ferguson for recommending BFG Commercial T/A tires for our coach.
19. Made some great new friends.
20. Love...Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona gas station filler nozzles, California nozzles blow!! In more ways than one.
21. You don;t have to be retired to have fun at a rally and enjoy your GMC.!!!
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts [message #58989 is a reply to message #58988] |
Sun, 04 October 2009 12:33  |
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USAussie
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Gary,
Thanks for the kudos!
I did my best and don't know if everybody agreed and KNOW one guy in
particular didn't! ;-)
All the best,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
'75 Avion - USA - The Parts Coach TZE 365V100324
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Worobec
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:08 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts
Some Pueblo thoughts.. ....
1. First..Left Friday from Peublo to Sante Fe. Easy trip. Stayed at Sante Fe
Skies RV park. Also spent some time in a bar in Madrid (about 14 miles away)
where they filmed some of the movie "Wild Hogs".
2. Left Sante Fe early Saturday morning, caught the end of the ballon
festival "mass ascension". Pretty awesome, about 100 ballons in the sky when
we went through Alberquerque.
3. Put the hammer down and went non-stop Sante Fe to SoCal. About 800 miles.
Got home about 11:00 pm. Big headwinds coming across the I-40. Mileage
really sucked. Used a half quart of oil and leaked a 1/2 pint of
transmission fluid. Not bad and better than I thought.
4. The rally....Very well organized. Thank you to JR. Slaten and his crew.
5. The sessions were on time and very well managed.
6. Rob Mueller knows how to run a session meeting.
7. If you go to one of the sessions you like, take copious notes. Most of
the good stuff comes from the "off the cuff" comments from the presenter.
8. The value of Dick Patersons engine building session is in being there. NO
amount of handouts, PowerPoints or recordings can do it justice. You have to
listen to Dick in person to fully appreciate what the guy does to a 455.
9. Food was tasty and filling. Morning coffee and donuts excellent.
10. Always wear your name badge or you will be scorned.
11. I didn't know that Emery Stora was such a fun loving guy.
12. Fin Beven makes great Margaritas.
13. The coaches were kind of spread out but the electrical, water, sewer
connections were first rate.
14. I bought a digital converter box and an antenna and got excellent local
TV reception. A government program that WORKED!!!
15. We went to Canon City and went on the Royal Gorge train ride. Very nice
way to spend an afternoon.
16. Went to Colorado Springs and visited the Garden of the Gods park.
Spectacular scenery.
17. Bought a combiner from JimK in the vendors area. I still don't
understand some of Jim's analogy's. Hope that Jim gets his coach running as
good as his pinewood derby racer.
18. Continue to thank Steve Ferguson for recommending BFG Commercial T/A
tires for our coach.
19. Made some great new friends.
20. Love...Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona gas station filler nozzles,
California nozzles blow!! In more ways than one.
21. You don;t have to be retired to have fun at a rally and enjoy your
GMC.!!!
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts [message #59015 is a reply to message #58989] |
Sun, 04 October 2009 18:52 |
emerystora
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Ron
I thought that you really did a great job and were willing to assist
whenever and whereever someone needed help
You deserve a BIG attaboy!
Emery Stora
Emery
On Oct 4, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
wrote:
> Gary,
>
> Thanks for the kudos!
>
> I did my best and don't know if everybody agreed and KNOW one guy in
> particular didn't! ;-)
>
> All the best,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> '75 Avion - USA - The Parts Coach TZE 365V100324
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Worobec
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:08 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts
>
> Some Pueblo thoughts.. ....
>
> 1. First..Left Friday from Peublo to Sante Fe. Easy trip. Stayed at
> Sante Fe
> Skies RV park. Also spent some time in a bar in Madrid (about 14
> miles away)
> where they filmed some of the movie "Wild Hogs".
>
> 2. Left Sante Fe early Saturday morning, caught the end of the ballon
> festival "mass ascension". Pretty awesome, about 100 ballons in the
> sky when
> we went through Alberquerque.
>
> 3. Put the hammer down and went non-stop Sante Fe to SoCal. About
> 800 miles.
> Got home about 11:00 pm. Big headwinds coming across the I-40. Mileage
> really sucked. Used a half quart of oil and leaked a 1/2 pint of
> transmission fluid. Not bad and better than I thought.
>
> 4. The rally....Very well organized. Thank you to JR. Slaten and his
> crew.
>
> 5. The sessions were on time and very well managed.
>
> 6. Rob Mueller knows how to run a session meeting.
>
> 7. If you go to one of the sessions you like, take copious notes.
> Most of
> the good stuff comes from the "off the cuff" comments from the
> presenter.
>
> 8. The value of Dick Patersons engine building session is in being
> there. NO
> amount of handouts, PowerPoints or recordings can do it justice. You
> have to
> listen to Dick in person to fully appreciate what the guy does to a
> 455.
>
> 9. Food was tasty and filling. Morning coffee and donuts excellent.
>
> 10. Always wear your name badge or you will be scorned.
>
> 11. I didn't know that Emery Stora was such a fun loving guy.
>
> 12. Fin Beven makes great Margaritas.
>
> 13. The coaches were kind of spread out but the electrical, water,
> sewer
> connections were first rate.
>
> 14. I bought a digital converter box and an antenna and got
> excellent local
> TV reception. A government program that WORKED!!!
>
> 15. We went to Canon City and went on the Royal Gorge train ride.
> Very nice
> way to spend an afternoon.
>
> 16. Went to Colorado Springs and visited the Garden of the Gods park.
> Spectacular scenery.
>
> 17. Bought a combiner from JimK in the vendors area. I still don't
> understand some of Jim's analogy's. Hope that Jim gets his coach
> running as
> good as his pinewood derby racer.
>
> 18. Continue to thank Steve Ferguson for recommending BFG Commercial
> T/A
> tires for our coach.
>
> 19. Made some great new friends.
>
> 20. Love...Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona gas station filler
> nozzles,
> California nozzles blow!! In more ways than one.
>
> 21. You don;t have to be retired to have fun at a rally and enjoy your
> GMC.!!!
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts [message #59016 is a reply to message #59015] |
Sun, 04 October 2009 19:07 |
emerystora
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Obviously I made a typo. That should have said ROB, not Ron
Emery
On Oct 4, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> Ron
>
> I thought that you really did a great job and were willing to assist
> whenever and whereever someone needed help
>
> You deserve a BIG attaboy!
>
> Emery Stora
>
>
>
> Emery
>
> On Oct 4, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Gary,
>>
>> Thanks for the kudos!
>>
>> I did my best and don't know if everybody agreed and KNOW one guy in
>> particular didn't! ;-)
>>
>> All the best,
>> Rob Mueller
>> Sydney, Australia
>> '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> '75 Avion - USA - The Parts Coach TZE 365V100324
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Worobec
>> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:08 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts
>>
>> Some Pueblo thoughts.. ....
>>
>> 1. First..Left Friday from Peublo to Sante Fe. Easy trip. Stayed at
>> Sante Fe
>> Skies RV park. Also spent some time in a bar in Madrid (about 14
>> miles away)
>> where they filmed some of the movie "Wild Hogs".
>>
>> 2. Left Sante Fe early Saturday morning, caught the end of the
>> ballon
>> festival "mass ascension". Pretty awesome, about 100 ballons in the
>> sky when
>> we went through Alberquerque.
>>
>> 3. Put the hammer down and went non-stop Sante Fe to SoCal. About
>> 800 miles.
>> Got home about 11:00 pm. Big headwinds coming across the I-40.
>> Mileage
>> really sucked. Used a half quart of oil and leaked a 1/2 pint of
>> transmission fluid. Not bad and better than I thought.
>>
>> 4. The rally....Very well organized. Thank you to JR. Slaten and his
>> crew.
>>
>> 5. The sessions were on time and very well managed.
>>
>> 6. Rob Mueller knows how to run a session meeting.
>>
>> 7. If you go to one of the sessions you like, take copious notes.
>> Most of
>> the good stuff comes from the "off the cuff" comments from the
>> presenter.
>>
>> 8. The value of Dick Patersons engine building session is in being
>> there. NO
>> amount of handouts, PowerPoints or recordings can do it justice. You
>> have to
>> listen to Dick in person to fully appreciate what the guy does to a
>> 455.
>>
>> 9. Food was tasty and filling. Morning coffee and donuts excellent.
>>
>> 10. Always wear your name badge or you will be scorned.
>>
>> 11. I didn't know that Emery Stora was such a fun loving guy.
>>
>> 12. Fin Beven makes great Margaritas.
>>
>> 13. The coaches were kind of spread out but the electrical, water,
>> sewer
>> connections were first rate.
>>
>> 14. I bought a digital converter box and an antenna and got
>> excellent local
>> TV reception. A government program that WORKED!!!
>>
>> 15. We went to Canon City and went on the Royal Gorge train ride.
>> Very nice
>> way to spend an afternoon.
>>
>> 16. Went to Colorado Springs and visited the Garden of the Gods park.
>> Spectacular scenery.
>>
>> 17. Bought a combiner from JimK in the vendors area. I still don't
>> understand some of Jim's analogy's. Hope that Jim gets his coach
>> running as
>> good as his pinewood derby racer.
>>
>> 18. Continue to thank Steve Ferguson for recommending BFG Commercial
>> T/A
>> tires for our coach.
>>
>> 19. Made some great new friends.
>>
>> 20. Love...Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona gas station filler
>> nozzles,
>> California nozzles blow!! In more ways than one.
>>
>> 21. You don;t have to be retired to have fun at a rally and enjoy
>> your
>> GMC.!!!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gary and Joanne Worobec
>> 1973 GMC Glacier
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie pin bushings [message #59041 is a reply to message #59028] |
Sun, 04 October 2009 23:58 |
Charles
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I was told that any more than 3/8 of an inch of in and out
movement of the rear wheels was too much. Look for wear
on the inter and outer edges of your rear tires. Uneven wear
on either edge is usually and indication of bogie pin and
bushing wear. measurement of movement should be made
at the centerline of the tire farthest away from he bogie.
Charles
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From: "Gary Casey" <casey.gary@yahoo.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Bogie pin bushings
> Just curious about how much bushing clearance is too much. I just put the
> coach on blocks and let the air out of the bags. 3 of the 4 wheels can be
> moved noticeably, but I'm wondering how much clearance is too much.
> Haven't made an actual measurement, but the movement at the wheel is not a
> lot, but enough to make noise. I've been looking for a shop manual on
> eBay, but so far nothing.
> Gary
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie pin bushings [message #59049 is a reply to message #59028] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 06:13 |
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Gary,
You definitely need manuals, as from Cinnabar or Tom Lins' CD. But it
won't help you with the bogie bushing clearance -- it's not in the
manual. At least I can't find it, nor did anyone report that they'd
been able to when we last discussed it.
That said, someone (Jim Bounds???) once told me <1/8" axial movement of
the wheel spindle. I'm not at all sure that's realistic; I think I've
had that much since 10,000 miles after new bushings.
Ken H.
Gary Casey wrote:
> Just curious about how much bushing clearance is too much. I just put the coach on blocks and let the air out of the bags. 3 of the 4 wheels can be moved noticeably, but I'm wondering how much clearance is too much. Haven't made an actual measurement, but the movement at the wheel is not a lot, but enough to make noise. I've been looking for a shop manual on eBay, but so far nothing.
> Gary
>
>
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| [GMCnet] Fwd: Bogie pin bushings [message #59054 is a reply to message #59030] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 07:58 |
Mr ERFisher
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Hey pops,;>)
did you read this?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bogie pin bushings
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
All GMC owners need all the documentation they can get on the GMC.
you can and should buy this collection of DVDs for GMC documentation.
http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/index.html
the paper versions are still available from Cinnabar
http://www.thegmcmotorhomepeople.com/
gene
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just curious about how much bushing clearance is too much. I just put the
> coach on blocks and let the air out of the bags. 3 of the 4 wheels can be
> moved noticeably, but I'm wondering how much clearance is too much. Haven't
> made an actual measurement, but the movement at the wheel is not a lot, but
> enough to make noise. I've been looking for a shop manual on eBay, but so
> far nothing.
> Gary
>
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leaving Pueblo thoughts [message #59108 is a reply to message #59025] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 17:43 |
Don A
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You always hate to leave a great party but I bet you guys are glad to be out of CO. Denver had a record low 27 this morning.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie pin bushings [message #59135 is a reply to message #59050] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 22:14 |
Rick Denney
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Ken Henderson writes...
> AH! HA! So that's why we couldn't find the tolerance -- it's in the
> service bulletins (GM Service Bulletin #75-TM-4 states 1/8" is
> maximum!). So the 1/8" is correct (Thanks, Jim B.). I wonder if it's
> in the '77 & '78 manuals?
Lessee, 1/8" at the wheel spindle. The wheel spindle is maybe 17 or
18" inches from the bogie pin, and the opposite edge of the tire is
another 15" beyond that. A 1/8" play at the spindle will be very
nearly 1/4" play at the far edge of the tire. I think I only have one
that's any worse than that, and it's not that much worse. I'll put
that one off a bit longer.
Rick "not looking forward to that job" Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bogie pin bushings [message #59195 is a reply to message #59135] |
Tue, 06 October 2009 11:32 |
jimk
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You need to know where the play is.
If it in the sliding , then torque the nut .
If it is the hole clearance, you must re pin and bush
.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rick Denney <rick@rickdenney.com> wrote:
> Ken Henderson writes...
>
>> AH! HA! Â So that's why we couldn't find the tolerance -- it's in the
>> service bulletins (GM Service Bulletin #75-TM-4 states 1/8" is
>> maximum!). Â So the 1/8" is correct (Thanks, Jim B.). Â I wonder if it's
>> in the '77 & '78 manuals?
>
> Lessee, 1/8" at the wheel spindle. The wheel spindle is maybe 17 or
> 18" inches from the bogie pin, and the opposite edge of the tire is
> another 15" beyond that. A 1/8" play at the spindle will be very
> nearly 1/4" play at the far edge of the tire. I think I only have one
> that's any worse than that, and it's not that much worse. I'll put
> that one off a bit longer.
>
> Rick "not looking forward to that job" Denney
>
> '73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
> Northern Virginia
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