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| Pueblo Convention [message #57480] |
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WD0AFQ
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I suspect a lot of folks will be hitting the roads Monday enroute to our gathering. Teri and I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable ride out there. We plan to leave here Tues or Wed and make a 2 day tip out of it. Have a cheap campgound pegged in south Ks. that is half way for us. We are anxious to see everyone. Seems like forever since Dothan. Maybe we will run across some GMCs as we travel. I'll have the tracker running for folks to see our progress.
Best wishes and safe travels,
Dan
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355 FD/Quad Bag/Alum Radiator Manny Tran/New eng.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention [message #57507 is a reply to message #57480] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 09:16  |
Fin Beven
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Our scenic tour starts in two days. Mary and I will be leaving South
Pasadena early Sunday morning, and heading to Pueblo via Las Vegas, St.
George, Zion, North Rim of the Grand Canyon, Utah route 89 up to Interstate
70, then over the Rockies and down into Denver, and south to Pueblo, with a
few stops along the way.
See you there.
Fin Beven
1976 ex-Edgemonte
South Pasadena, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Gregg" <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention
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> I suspect a lot of folks will be hitting the roads Monday enroute to our
> gathering. Teri and I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable ride out
> there. We plan to leave here Tues or Wed and make a 2 day tip out of it.
> Have a cheap campgound pegged in south Ks. that is half way for us. We are
> anxious to see everyone. Seems like forever since Dothan. Maybe we will
> run across some GMCs as we travel. I'll have the tracker running for folks
> to see our progress.
> Best wishes and safe travels,
> Dan
> --
> Dan & Teri Gregg
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> danandteri.blogspot.com
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| Re: Pueblo Convention [message #57516 is a reply to message #57480] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 11:22 |
1funcruiser
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We, and another couple, will be leaving Monday from Washington state. We will be traveling through Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming and Colorado. Expecting to be there in Pueblo on Friday. We have the casino, fairgrounds and Walmarts set up
enroute to stop overnight at. So much to do to get ready but so ready to go. See you there Dan & Teri.
Safe travels everyone.
Jackie & Paul Jones
1978 GMC Royale "Cassie"
Port Orchard, WA.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention [message #57520 is a reply to message #57516] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 11:52 |
Gary Worobec
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We are leaving Wednesday morning from SoCal to Flagstaff, then to Sante Fe,
then to Pueblo.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie" <jmariejo@msn.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention
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> We, and another couple, will be leaving Monday from Washington state. We
> will be traveling through Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming and
> Colorado. Expecting to be there in Pueblo on Friday. We have the casino,
> fairgrounds and Walmarts set up
> enroute to stop overnight at. So much to do to get ready but so ready to
> go. See you there Dan & Teri.
> Safe travels everyone.
>
> Jackie & Paul Jones
> 1978 GMC Royale "Cassie"
> Port Orchard, WA.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention [message #57533 is a reply to message #57532] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 13:34 |
Ken Burton
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| Gary Worobec wrote on Fri, 18 September 2009 13:07 |
You are brave guy to do Wolf Pass in a GMC. It's about 11,000 ft if I
recall. Hopefully you have FI.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
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I have done it in a GMC with no problems. It is not an issue unless it is snowing.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention [message #57538 is a reply to message #57533] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 14:01 |
Steve Stolley
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Thanks for the warning Gary. It's actually 10,850 feet according to Mountain Directory West. Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't too many routes heading to Pueblo from the west that don't have at least one high summit, unless you travel way down south and then back up Hwy 25 in New Mexico. I recently bought some property in Duck Creek, UT and made a test run up there in the GMC a few weeks ago. That trip up the hill from Cedar City has a 10,000 ft summit with about 4-5 miles of 8% grade. I made it up towing my Mazda 3. I was only going 20mph in 1st at times, but I made it. That said, I do plan to talk to Jim K. about changing out my 3.42 for a 3.70 and adding another trans cooler. Maybe someone with a 3.07 would be interested in my 3.42 with only about 5K on it.
Steve Stolley
76 Glenbrook
Ivins, Utah
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention [message #57539 is a reply to message #57538] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 14:28 |
Gary Worobec
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I actually talked to Jim yesterday about a 3.55 for my 23'. Seems like it
makes sense especially if you are towing.
Thanks,
Gary Worobec
Director, Product Development
PAXTON/PATTERSON
(O) 951-763-0518
(C) 773-230-6226
gtw5@earthlink.net
www.paxtonpatterson.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Stolley" <sstolley9957@yahoo.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention
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> Thanks for the warning Gary. It's actually 10,850 feet according to
> Mountain Directory West. Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't too many
> routes heading to Pueblo from the west that don't have at least one high
> summit, unless you travel way down south and then back up Hwy 25 in New
> Mexico. I recently bought some property in Duck Creek, UT and made a test
> run up there in the GMC a few weeks ago. That trip up the hill from Cedar
> City has a 10,000 ft summit with about 4-5 miles of 8% grade. I made it
> up towing my Mazda 3. I was only going 20mph in 1st at times, but I made
> it. That said, I do plan to talk to Jim K. about changing out my 3.42 for
> a 3.70 and adding another trans cooler. Maybe someone with a 3.07 would be
> interested in my 3.42 with only about 5K on it.
> --
> Steve Stolley
> 76 Glenbrook
> Washington, Utah
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| Re: [GMCnet] Final drive ratios [message #57555 is a reply to message #57540] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 17:13 |
Rick Denney
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Gary Casey writes...
> Here I am confused again. As I understand it the standard final
> drive ratio is 3.07 and the input (chain) drive ratio is 1. That
> would sound like a 13/40 (3.077) or some tooth count similar. My PO
> told me that he changed it to a 3.42. Now I am reading about "3.50"
> ratios (final drive plus chain drive reduction?), 3.55 and others.
> Not sure what to make of it all. I assume there are various
> combinations of input and output drive ratios available. Right?
There are many options for final drives all by themselves, including
3.21 (planetary gears), 3.42 (12/41), 3.55 (11/39), 3.70 (10/37), and
4.10 (which uses magick gears). Jim Kanomata has made and sell the
3.55, 3.70, and 4.10 final drives. The 3.42 is available from
Cinnabar, and the 3.21 came from another application of the era.
There is also the modified chain drive, which provides the same effect
as a 3.50 final drive. That means the modified chain drive increases
the ratio by 14%, which can, of course, be applied to any of the final
drives, making combined drive ratios of 3.66, 3.90, 4.05, 4.22, and
4.67 (theoretically) possible.
Rick "confusion is our most important product" Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Final drive ratios [message #57568 is a reply to message #57557] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 21:00 |
Kosier
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Ken,
You switched Cinnabar and Marvin Peck. I have one of Marvin's
3.46
gears, but I'm not going to open it up to count the teeth. Come
to think of
it, I might have that info in the original literature.
Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Final drive ratios
> Gary,
>
> The table to which Gene linked is the best I've seen to
> describe the various
> ratios available, but it still lacks the degree of "Overall
> Gearing"
> coherence I want, so here's my effort.
>
> There are 3 tables:
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> 1. Shows the known available chain drive ratios from the
> numbers of
> driving and driven sprocket teeth.
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> 2. Displays the known available final drive ratios calculated
> from
> the pinion and ring gear teeth counts.
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> 3. Presents the overall drive ratios from engine crankshaft to
> drive axles computed by multiplying the Chain Ratio by the
> Final Drive
> Ratio.
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> We apparently have available 24 different Overall Ratios,
> ranging from
> 2.73:1 to 4.85:1.
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> Note that most of this information came from Gene's table,
> others from
> perhaps faulty memory (especially the 3.47 which I'm not sure
> Cinnabar ever
> produced). Everyone please check it carefully and report any
> errors or
> missing data:
>
> Now if the email programs will just maintain some formatting!
>
> =========================================
> CHAIN DRIVE RATIOS
> Sprocket Teeth Chain
> Chain Source Drive Driven Ratio
> OEM 65 65 1.00
> Caspro 65 57 1.14
> Dunn 65 55 1.18
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> FINAL DRIVE RATIOS
> Pinion Ring FD
> FD Source Gear Gear Ratio
> OEM Eldo 15 41 2.73
> OEM GMC 14 43 3.07
> Toro 65/66 ? ? 3.21
> Peck 12 41 3.42
> Cinnabar ? ? 3.47
> Kanomata 11 39 3.55
> Kanomata 10 37 3.70
> Kanomata 10 41 4.10
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> OVERALL RATIOS
> FD Chain Ratio
> Ratio 1.00 1.14 1.18
> 2.73 2.73 3.12 3.23
> 3.07 3.07 3.50 3.63
> 3.21 3.21 3.66 3.79
> 3.42 3.42 3.90 4.04
> 3.47 3.47 3.96 4.10
> 3.55 3.55 4.04 4.19
> 3.70 3.70 4.22 4.37
> 4.10 4.10 4.68 4.85
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> Source for most information:
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#RATIO
> =========================================
>
> Ken Henderson
> Americus, GA
> GMCWipersEtc.com
> '76 X-Birchaven
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Here I am confused again. As I understand it the standard
> final drive ratio
> is 3.07 and the input (chain) drive ratio is 1. That would
> sound like a
> 13/40 (3.077) or some tooth count similar. My PO told me that
> he changed it
> to a 3.42. Now I am reading about "3.50" ratios (final drive
> plus chain
> drive reduction?), 3.55 and others. Not sure what to make of
> it all. I
> assume there are various combinations of input and output drive
> ratios
> available. Right?
> Gary
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pueblo Convention [message #57580 is a reply to message #57556] |
Fri, 18 September 2009 23:34 |
jimk
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Grace and I are planning to leave our shop in Fremont Tuesday PM and take
the southern route.
We had some customers that developed some problems with there coaches on the
way.
Our coach is not running yet so wish me luck as I might need to do most of
the work on it myself as our guys are busy with Cash paying customers.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I will be parked at the Jim Kanomata vendor site in a black and silver 26
> foot. Will be a yellow vdub there with various other colors on it too.
> Please stop by and introduce yourself, if we have not met. For my old
> friends, yall come over too. Will be moving some automatic fire
> extinguishers. I can save you some shipping if you purchase them at the
> convention. Teri is working on the coach now. We can't wait to see everyone.
> Dan
> --
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>
> danandteri.blogspot.com
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Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
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http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
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