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Hi guys, on the way to pick up my torsion bar unloading tool I stopped off to visit another coach and owner. This coach was fitted with a sun visor and I told him how much I liked the look of them on the TZE. For some reason he had an extra 2-piece sun visor and we made a deal, so now I have to figure out how to attach it.
The pair of deep mounting recesses - does anyone install more roof lights or air horns in the spaces or just leave them empty?

Any tips on fitment?

Thanks

Larry


Larry - Victoria BC - 1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
Re: Sun Visor [message #364062 is a reply to message #364056] Mon, 17 May 2021 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HI Larry, Larry here....

Just a couple of comments on your visor issue. The underside is now white or a light color, and can become a reflective irritant at night when the running lights are on. Before you install it, clean up the under side of the visor with something that will remove any oils or silicone, then rough it up with at 400 grit paper, and paint the under side with a black semigloss paint. When I had my coach painted, the company also installed the visor, painted white. They failed to fasten it down properly and nearly blew off on our first long trip. I strapped it down and when we got home I removed it, painted the under side black and put it back on removing the headliner and bolting it to the roof with large flat washers on the inside and gluing it to the roof with 3M 5200 sealer. The black paint made a huge difference in visual comfort driving at night, and the visor doesn't move at all in even the highest winds. JWID


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Re: Sun Visor [message #364067 is a reply to message #364056] Mon, 17 May 2021 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Larry, thanks for the tip on reflection, that would be a pain all right, fortunately the underside of mine is already black so that's one step taken care of already!

I like the idea of a good bedding compound under there and I was planning to do that - 3M 5200 sounds like the stuff for sure. I'm sure it's better to use bolts as you did, but in my case it might have to be fairly hefty stainless screws because I don't think I can remove the inner cab liner easily - I'll check today. If I use 5200 with the screws I think I SHOULD be OK - but OTOH we have a saying round here "You know what should did?" ..."No, what?" ..."Shit himself."

Larry


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[GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364068 is a reply to message #364067] Mon, 17 May 2021 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lots of wires in that area. Be careful when you drill holes or run screws
up there. Don't ask me how I know about the wires. I wound up having to
take the interior out to fix my stupid move. I use drill stops up there now.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Mon, May 17, 2021, 8:12 AM wrote:

> Hi Larry, thanks for the tip on reflection, that would be a pain all
> right, fortunately the underside of mine is already black so that's one step
> taken care of already!
>
> I like the idea of a good bedding compound under there and I was planning
> to do that - 3M 5200 sounds like the stuff for sure. I'm sure it's better to
> use bolts as you did, but in my case it might have to be fairly hefty
> stainless screws because I don't think I can remove the inner cab liner
> easily -
> I'll check today. If I use 5200 with the screws I think I SHOULD be OK -
> but OTOH we have a saying round here "You what should did?" ..."No, what?"
> ..."Shit himself."
>
> Larry
> --
> Larry - Victoria BC -
>
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> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
> operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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[GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364069 is a reply to message #364067] Mon, 17 May 2021 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You might try 3m 4200 it is bedding compound. Should you need to remove it it would be possible. 5200 is almost impossible to remove. 

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On Mon., 17 May 2021 at 8:12 a.m., twlldeen@gmail.com wrote: Hi Larry, thanks for the tip on reflection, that would be a pain all right, fortunately the underside of mine is already black so that's one step
taken care of already!

I like the idea of a good bedding compound under there and I was planning to do that - 3M 5200 sounds like the stuff for sure. I'm sure it's better to
use bolts as you did, but in my case it might have to be fairly hefty stainless screws because I don't think I can remove the inner cab liner easily -
I'll check today. If I use 5200 with the screws I think I SHOULD be OK - but OTOH we have a saying round here "You what should did?" ..."No, what?"
..."Shit himself."

Larry
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operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364071 is a reply to message #364068] Mon, 17 May 2021 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good advice! I'll be sure to keep the screws short and the drill bit with a stop.

thanks

Larry

James Hupy wrote on Mon, 17 May 2021 08:37
Lots of wires in that area. Be careful when you drill holes or run screws
up there. Don't ask me how I know about the wires. I wound up having to
take the interior out to fix my stupid move. I use drill stops up there now.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Mon, May 17, 2021, 8:12 AM wrote:

> Hi Larry, thanks for the tip on reflection, that would be a pain all
> right, fortunately the underside of mine is already black so that's one step
> taken care of already!
>
> I like the idea of a good bedding compound under there and I was planning
> to do that - 3M 5200 sounds like the stuff for sure. I'm sure it's better to
> use bolts as you did, but in my case it might have to be fairly hefty
> stainless screws because I don't think I can remove the inner cab liner
> easily -
> I'll check today. If I use 5200 with the screws I think I SHOULD be OK -
> but OTOH we have a saying round here "You what should did?" ..."No, what?"
> ..."Shit himself."
>
> Larry
> --
> Larry - Victoria BC -
>
> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything
> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
> operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364072 is a reply to message #364069] Mon, 17 May 2021 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought about that, using Sika or 4200 and you may very well be right, I've built enough boats to know that 5200 is super stickum ..OTOH, I'm planning to make the visor a permanent thing, can't think why I would ever need to remove it unless it gets smashed by a falling tree or low bridge or something. If I have to take it off I reckon I could cut through the 5200 with a few OIfa blades - well maybe not a few, but perhaps a box of them?

Thanks for the suggestion

Larry

toronto675 wrote on Mon, 17 May 2021 08:48
You might try 3m 4200 it is bedding compound. Should you need to remove it it would be possible. 5200 is almost impossible to remove. 

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On Mon., 17 May 2021 at 8:12 a.m., twlldeen@gmail.com wrote: Hi Larry, thanks for the tip on reflection, that would be a pain all right, fortunately the underside of mine is already black so that's one step
taken care of already!

I like the idea of a good bedding compound under there and I was planning to do that - 3M 5200 sounds like the stuff for sure. I'm sure it's better to
use bolts as you did, but in my case it might have to be fairly hefty stainless screws because I don't think I can remove the inner cab liner easily -
I'll check today. If I use 5200 with the screws I think I SHOULD be OK - but OTOH we have a saying round here "You what should did?" ..."No, what?"
..."Shit himself."

Larry
--
Larry - Victoria BC -

1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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[GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364085 is a reply to message #364072] Mon, 17 May 2021 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used the 3M 5200 and stainless steel screws when I put my visor on 20
years ago; driven about 50k miles and have had no problems.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR


On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:32 PM wrote:

> I thought about that, using Sika or 4200 and you may very well be right,
> I've built enough boats to know that 5200 is super stickum ..OTOH, I'm
> planning to make the visor a permanent thing, can't think why I would ever
> need to remove it unless it gets smashed by a falling tree or low bridge or
> something. If I have to take it off I reckon I could cut through the 5200
> with a few OIfa blades - well maybe not a few, but perhaps a box of them?
>
> Thanks for the suggestion
>
> Larry
>
> toronto675 wrote on Mon, 17 May 2021 08:48
>> You might try 3m 4200 it is bedding compound. Should you need to remove
> it it would be possible. 5200 is almost impossible to remove.
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Mon., 17 May 2021 at 8:12 a.m., twlldeen@gmail.com wrote: Hi
> Larry, thanks for the tip on reflection, that would be a pain all right,
>> fortunately the underside of mine is already black so that's one step
>> taken care of already!
>>
>> I like the idea of a good bedding compound under there and I was
> planning to do that - 3M 5200 sounds like the stuff for sure. I'm sure it's
>> better to
>> use bolts as you did, but in my case it might have to be fairly hefty
> stainless screws because I don't think I can remove the inner cab liner
>> easily -
>> I'll check today. If I use 5200 with the screws I think I SHOULD be OK -
> but OTOH we have a saying round here "You what should did?" ..."No,
>> what?"
>> ..."Shit himself."
>>
>> Larry
>> --
>> Larry - Victoria BC -
>>
>> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything
> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
>> operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything
> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
> operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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[GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364086 is a reply to message #364085] Mon, 17 May 2021 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can go to our web site and go to INSTRUCTIONS and there you can look up
the installation and slight mods to let more air vent out and reduce air
drag.

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:52 PM Jerry Wheeler wrote:

> I used the 3M 5200 and stainless steel screws when I put my visor on 20
> years ago; driven about 50k miles and have had no problems.
> JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:32 PM wrote:
>
>> I thought about that, using Sika or 4200 and you may very well be right,
>> I've built enough boats to know that 5200 is super stickum ..OTOH, I'm
>> planning to make the visor a permanent thing, can't think why I would
> ever
>> need to remove it unless it gets smashed by a falling tree or low bridge
> or
>> something. If I have to take it off I reckon I could cut through the 5200
>> with a few OIfa blades - well maybe not a few, but perhaps a box of
> them?
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> toronto675 wrote on Mon, 17 May 2021 08:48
>>> You might try 3m 4200 it is bedding compound. Should you need to remove
>> it it would be possible. 5200 is almost impossible to remove.
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>
>>> On Mon., 17 May 2021 at 8:12 a.m., twlldeen@gmail.com wrote: Hi
>> Larry, thanks for the tip on reflection, that would be a pain all right,
>>> fortunately the underside of mine is already black so that's one step
>>> taken care of already!
>>>
>>> I like the idea of a good bedding compound under there and I was
>> planning to do that - 3M 5200 sounds like the stuff for sure. I'm sure
> it's
>>> better to
>>> use bolts as you did, but in my case it might have to be fairly hefty
>> stainless screws because I don't think I can remove the inner cab liner
>>> easily -
>>> I'll check today. If I use 5200 with the screws I think I SHOULD be OK
> -
>> but OTOH we have a saying round here "You what should did?" ..."No,
>>> what?"
>>> ..."Shit himself."
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> --
>>> Larry - Victoria BC -
>>>
>>> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything
>> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
>>> operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>
>> --
>> Larry - Victoria BC -
>>
>> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 40,000 miles, PO said everything
>> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system,
>> operational Onan genset, R134A A/C, New fuel lines
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364094 is a reply to message #364086] Mon, 17 May 2021 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Jim - I went to the site but there were no instructions for installing the sun visor?

Larry


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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Sun Visor [message #364110 is a reply to message #364085] Tue, 18 May 2021 09:55 Go to previous message
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Thanks Jerry, this is what I've decided to use too.

Larry

Jerry Wheeler wrote on Mon, 17 May 2021 14:52
I used the 3M 5200 and stainless steel screws when I put my visor on 20
years ago; driven about 50k miles and have had no problems.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR


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