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[GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed [message #363682] Sun, 25 April 2021 08:27 Go to next message
Billy Massey is currently offline  Billy Massey   United States
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 8:05 AM wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I need to remove my 455 engine from my 26 foot 1976 GMC MH due to terrible
> bottom end bearing/knocking noise and super low oil pressure. Engine starts
> and runs though.
>
> Question: Does anyone in So California have the engine hoist (with or
> without the I-beam and trolley system) I can rent/borrow/buy?
>
> I thought I’d ask here first before I go ahead and re-invent the wheel and
> build my own hoist. I am thinking of pulling the engine inside the coach.
> But I am open to suggestions. Once I build mine I’d be happy to share it
> with anyone who needs it.
>
> I’m in Buena Park, CA
>
> James
>
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[GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed [message #363689 is a reply to message #363682] Sun, 25 April 2021 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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James, if you decide to build one, I have a whole series of photos that
show all the pieces needed. If you send me a cell phone number, I can text
them to you.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 6:25 AM Billy Massey wrote:

> GMC help and your newest best friends are near.
> http://www.gmcpc.org/
>
> bdub
> bdub.bet
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 8:05 AM wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I need to remove my 455 engine from my 26 foot 1976 GMC MH due to
> terrible
>> bottom end bearing/knocking noise and super low oil pressure. Engine
> starts
>> and runs though.
>>
>> Question: Does anyone in So California have the engine hoist (with or
>> without the I-beam and trolley system) I can rent/borrow/buy?
>>
>> I thought I’d ask here first before I go ahead and re-invent the wheel
> and
>> build my own hoist. I am thinking of pulling the engine inside the coach.
>> But I am open to suggestions. Once I build mine I’d be happy to share it
>> with anyone who needs it.
>>
>> I’m in Buena Park, CA
>>
>> James
>>
>> 1976 GMC Motorhome 26’
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[GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed [message #363691 is a reply to message #363689] Sun, 25 April 2021 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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You can do it w/o the trolly.
Before I got the trolly system. on my personal coach we laid down the
dining cushions and laid a plywood and slid the engine on it to the door.

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:32 AM James Hupy wrote:

> James, if you decide to build one, I have a whole series of photos that
> show all the pieces needed. If you send me a cell phone number, I can text
> them to you.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 6:25 AM Billy Massey wrote:
>
>> GMC help and your newest best friends are near.
>> http://www.gmcpc.org/
>>
>> bdub
>> bdub.bet
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 8:05 AM wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I need to remove my 455 engine from my 26 foot 1976 GMC MH due to
>> terrible
>>> bottom end bearing/knocking noise and super low oil pressure. Engine
>> starts
>>> and runs though.
>>>
>>> Question: Does anyone in So California have the engine hoist (with or
>>> without the I-beam and trolley system) I can rent/borrow/buy?
>>>
>>> I thought I’d ask here first before I go ahead and re-invent the wheel
>> and
>>> build my own hoist. I am thinking of pulling the engine inside the
> coach.
>>> But I am open to suggestions. Once I build mine I’d be happy to share
> it
>>> with anyone who needs it.
>>>
>>> I’m in Buena Park, CA
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> 1976 GMC Motorhome 26’
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[GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed [message #363706 is a reply to message #363691] Sun, 25 April 2021 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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you still need a hoist to get it out abd over the step tho right?

And Harbor frieght moving dolly's work way better than a piece of plywood
https://www.harborfreight.com/material-handling/moving-supplies/dollies-hand-trucks.html
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Subject: [GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed

You can do it w/o the trolly.
Before I got the trolly system. on my personal coach we laid down the
dining cushions and laid a plywood and slid the engine on it to the door.

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:32 AM James Hupy wrote:

> James, if you decide to build one, I have a whole series of photos that
> show all the pieces needed. If you send me a cell phone number, I can text
> them to you.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 6:25 AM Billy Massey wrote:
>
>> GMC help and your newest best friends are near.
>> http://www.gmcpc.org/
>>
>> bdub
>> bdub.bet
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 8:05 AM wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I need to remove my 455 engine from my 26 foot 1976 GMC MH due to
>> terrible
>>> bottom end bearing/knocking noise and super low oil pressure. Engine
>> starts
>>> and runs though.
>>>
>>> Question: Does anyone in So California have the engine hoist (with or
>>> without the I-beam and trolley system) I can rent/borrow/buy?
>>>
>>> I thought I’d ask here first before I go ahead and re-invent the wheel
>> and
>>> build my own hoist. I am thinking of pulling the engine inside the
> coach.
>>> But I am open to suggestions. Once I build mine I’d be happy to share
> it
>>> with anyone who needs it.
>>>
>>> I’m in Buena Park, CA
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> 1976 GMC Motorhome 26’
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[GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed [message #363707 is a reply to message #363706] Sun, 25 April 2021 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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There is not enough space in the hallway.
Once you get it on the ledge with the plywood with the seats down, sliding
you have control..
Thinkm
about what I'm saying as I have done that mant times and there is no
control with dolly swivel wheels.

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 8:10 PM Keith V wrote:

> you still need a hoist to get it out abd over the step tho right?
>
> And Harbor frieght moving dolly's work way better than a piece of plywood
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/material-handling/moving-supplies/dollies-hand-trucks.html
> Dollies & Hand Trucks - Harbor Freight Tools https://www.harborfreight.com/material-handling/moving-supplies/dollies-hand-trucks.html
>>
> For any difficulty using this site with a screen reader or because of a
> disability, please contact us at 1-800-444-3353 or cs@harborfreight.com..
> For California consumers: more information about our privacy practices.more
> information about our privacy practices.
> www.harborfreight.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Kanomata
> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 1:48 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed
>
> You can do it w/o the trolly.
> Before I got the trolly system. on my personal coach we laid down the
> dining cushions and laid a plywood and slid the engine on it to the door.
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:32 AM James Hupy wrote:
>
>> James, if you decide to build one, I have a whole series of photos that
>> show all the pieces needed. If you send me a cell phone number, I can
> text
>> them to you.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 6:25 AM Billy Massey wrote:
>>
>>> GMC help and your newest best friends are near.
>>> http://www.gmcpc.org/
>>>
>>> bdub
>>> bdub.bet
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 8:05 AM wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I need to remove my 455 engine from my 26 foot 1976 GMC MH due to
>>> terrible
>>>> bottom end bearing/knocking noise and super low oil pressure. Engine
>>> starts
>>>> and runs though.
>>>>
>>>> Question: Does anyone in So California have the engine hoist (with or
>>>> without the I-beam and trolley system) I can rent/borrow/buy?
>>>>
>>>> I thought I’d ask here first before I go ahead and re-invent the
> wheel
>>> and
>>>> build my own hoist. I am thinking of pulling the engine inside the
>> coach.
>>>> But I am open to suggestions. Once I build mine I’d be happy to share
>> it
>>>> with anyone who needs it.
>>>>
>>>> I’m in Buena Park, CA
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> 1976 GMC Motorhome 26’
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>
>
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[GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed [message #363729 is a reply to message #363682] Mon, 26 April 2021 18:37 Go to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I wasn't naming names Bill. (Grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 4:34 PM Bill Guise wrote:

> Boy, that brings back memories!
>
> Sent from my iPad, Bill & Peggy
>
> On Apr 26, 2021, at 4:32 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
> One of our more creative? members in the Seattle area needed to remove an
> engine outside on their grass lawn, they solved the "out the bottom" method
> with a back hoe. Left the coach on the ground, and dug out a space under
> the coach in the lawn similar to a pit. Leveled out the bottom, lined it
> with 3/4" plywood, and out she came.
> Definitely not my way, but it worked for them. So I have seen just
> about every method possible to r & r an engine. Out the top with a gantry
> and rail, (my preferred method), take the entire front clip out from under
> the coach by rolling it on the tires and wheels with trailing caster wheels
> added, (if a lot of rust and worn suspension components are present) that
> is a viable option, pits will work, as well as coach hoists. Depending upon
> your skills and abilities, pick a method, and learn the same way many other
> GMCers have. Busted knuckles, anti freeze in your hair, transmission fluid
> all over your shop floor, etc.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 4:09 PM RJW wrote:
>>
>> Scott Nutter wrote on Mon, 26 April 2021 16:33
>>> I don’t know what benefit of dropping the engine out the bottom. The
>> only thing I can think of would be maybe keeping the inside cleaner?
>>> Possibly more of the experienced people will reply to this one.
>>> Scott.
>>> P.S, Larry is a very smart guy. His out the bottom procedure sounds very
>> good.
>>
>> Being as I replaced my engine, transmission and final drive myself in my
>> backyard I can comment.
>>
>> The advantage for me was that I was able to drop all 3 components in one
>> assembly. Then I took the intact power-train to my garage where I was
> able
>> to
>> separate the three and assemble a complete power-train (rebuilt motor,
>> transmission and final drive) that I hoisted back up into position. I
> think
>> doing it that way saved me time and effort. Of course you have to have a
>> way to get enough room under the engine bay in order to get the stuff
> down.
>>
>>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachgmc.com%2Fgmc%2Fgmc_images%2Framp2.jpg&amp ;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ca82bb602c84300f10308d9090b8909%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637550767410707318%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=A23ZqLSIuI66xOwoZotvEK2qDOoxE7atKQDPRxnoDro%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Coop Roller Cam 455, Howell TBI + EBL, 3.42 FD, Quadra Bag, Macerator,
>> Lenzi stuff, Manny Tranny etc.
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[GMCnet] Re: Engine removal hoist needed [message #363730 is a reply to message #363682] Mon, 26 April 2021 18:34 Go to previous message
Bill Guise is currently offline  Bill Guise   United States
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Boy, that brings back memories!

Sent from my iPad, Bill & Peggy

On Apr 26, 2021, at 4:32 PM, James Hupy wrote:

One of our more creative? members in the Seattle area needed to remove an
engine outside on their grass lawn, they solved the "out the bottom" method
with a back hoe. Left the coach on the ground, and dug out a space under
the coach in the lawn similar to a pit. Leveled out the bottom, lined it
with 3/4" plywood, and out she came.
Definitely not my way, but it worked for them. So I have seen just
about every method possible to r & r an engine. Out the top with a gantry
and rail, (my preferred method), take the entire front clip out from under
the coach by rolling it on the tires and wheels with trailing caster wheels
added, (if a lot of rust and worn suspension components are present) that
is a viable option, pits will work, as well as coach hoists. Depending upon
your skills and abilities, pick a method, and learn the same way many other
GMCers have. Busted knuckles, anti freeze in your hair, transmission fluid
all over your shop floor, etc.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 4:09 PM RJW wrote:
>
> Scott Nutter wrote on Mon, 26 April 2021 16:33
>> I don’t know what benefit of dropping the engine out the bottom. The
> only thing I can think of would be maybe keeping the inside cleaner?
>> Possibly more of the experienced people will reply to this one.
>> Scott.
>> P.S, Larry is a very smart guy. His out the bottom procedure sounds very
> good.
>
> Being as I replaced my engine, transmission and final drive myself in my
> backyard I can comment.
>
> The advantage for me was that I was able to drop all 3 components in one
> assembly. Then I took the intact power-train to my garage where I was able
> to
> separate the three and assemble a complete power-train (rebuilt motor,
> transmission and final drive) that I hoisted back up into position. I think
> doing it that way saved me time and effort. Of course you have to have a
> way to get enough room under the engine bay in order to get the stuff down.
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachgmc.com%2Fgmc%2Fgmc_images%2Framp2.jpg&amp ;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ca82bb602c84300f10308d9090b8909%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637550767410707318%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=A23ZqLSIuI66xOwoZotvEK2qDOoxE7atKQDPRxnoDro%3D&reserved=0
>
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>
> --
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> SE Michigan
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>
>
> Coop Roller Cam 455, Howell TBI + EBL, 3.42 FD, Quadra Bag, Macerator,
> Lenzi stuff, Manny Tranny etc.
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