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Won't idle without choke [message #363522] Mon, 19 April 2021 10:37 Go to next message
indymac is currently offline  indymac   United States
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77 403, starts fine on choke, the dies as soon as choke drops off.
It's been sitting a while, gas old mixed with new, new fuel pump with electric pump kicker, inline fuel filter, new carb filter, lost spring, got one at hdwr store, not sure if it's the right one..
Any clues on where to start?

Thanks,

Jim


77 Palm Beach 403 Decatur, IN TZE167V101738
Re: Won't idle without choke [message #363524 is a reply to message #363522] Mon, 19 April 2021 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   Canada
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indymac wrote on Mon, 19 April 2021 11:37
77 403, starts fine on choke, the dies as soon as choke drops off.
It's been sitting a while, gas old mixed with new, new fuel pump with electric pump kicker, inline fuel filter, new carb filter, lost spring, got one at hdwr store, not sure if it's the right one..
Any clues on where to start?

Thanks,

Jim
Jim,

The idle circuit is very possibly fouled because of the old fuel. If you pour some fuel system cleaner in there, it might clear out. But until it does, try adjusting the idle stop to get by. This will only be temporary and be real ready to take out what you put in. So, count how much you do. I always count quarter turns because it is easy.

The idle mixture screws are under the float bowl and a bear to get to without the proper tool. Just leave them alone as long as you can.

Matt


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Re: Won't idle without choke [message #363529 is a reply to message #363522] Mon, 19 April 2021 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Years ago...MANY years ago...my dad had a Oldsmobile that had a V8 with a QJet. Also had the same issue of not idling. Using compressed air, I pulled the idle screws out and blew some compressed air through them. Put the screws back in all of the way and backed them out 1 1/4 turns. Started the motor, waited for warm-up and it idled down perfect. Then made minor adjustment to the idle screws. Blowing out the idle circuit cleared up the problem. Might work if idle circuit is plugged. No promises but a cheap easy fix if it is. JWID

Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Won't idle without choke [message #363539 is a reply to message #363529] Tue, 20 April 2021 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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A couple of years ago I was working on restarting a 1978-403 that had sat for 19 years. After starting it, it ran very poorly and had similar running lean problems after warm up. I went to an engine replacment site where Dick Paterson was working and in passing I asked him what I should do about the carb. His e suggestion was to fill the carb on the engine with 100% carb cleaner and let it sit for a day or so. I did that and after cranking enough to get some of the cleaner out, the engine started and it runs perfectly. I wish my 455 started and ran that great.

You might want to try that.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: Won't idle without choke [message #363584 is a reply to message #363522] Wed, 21 April 2021 10:54 Go to previous message
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https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/sea-foam-motor-treatment-473-ml-0387800p.html

Can you get Sea Foam carb cleaner? I swear by this stuff.


Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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