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Oil Filters [message #363079] Sat, 27 March 2021 09:22 Go to next message
LNelson is currently offline  LNelson   United States
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That time again. I have a Wix 51258 on my shelf. Going to pull the plug this morning but I happened to look at the parts interchange at is has a 51049 for a 77 455. Now I am confused. Too much information? The Wix website calls for the 51258.

??????

Thanks.


Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
[GMCnet] Re: Oil Filters [message #363080 is a reply to message #363079] Sat, 27 March 2021 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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Larry.
The 51258 will work just fine, it is 4.338” tall and The 51049 os 3/4” longer and they both have the same specs I have run the 51049 since the the early 2000’s because it is bigger (longer). Your good with the one that you have on hand. You could use the other filter on your next oil change.

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> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Larry Nelson wrote:
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> That time again. I have a Wix 51258 on my shelf. Going to pull the plug this morning but I happened to look at the parts interchange at is has a 51049
> for a 77 455. Now I am confused. Too much information? The Wix website calls for the 51258.
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> ??????
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> Thanks.
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> now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Oil Filters [message #363083 is a reply to message #363080] Sat, 27 March 2021 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LNelson is currently offline  LNelson   United States
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I believe I have bounced around between these two in the past but just wanted some additional feedback. Thanks.

Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
Re: [GMCnet] Re: Oil Filters [message #363092 is a reply to message #363083] Sat, 27 March 2021 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dsmithy is currently offline  dsmithy   United States
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Larry,
I just went through this with NAPA and was told that one was listed as an automotive oil filter ($5) and the other was listed as an industrial oil filter as in a filter for the hydraulic system on your tractor. Listed with the exact same specifications but the "industrial" filter was listed at $16. I can see some benefit to an extra 3/4 inch of filter material, but this time I went for the cheap one. JWID


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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Oil Filters [message #363096 is a reply to message #363092] Sat, 27 March 2021 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On oil filters, Amazon is your friend. Went to O'Reilly's to purchase oil filter for pick-up. Pre-paid for pick-up today. Went back to get it, previous shift sold it to someone else. (so much for pre-pay). Exact WIX filter is on Amazon for $12, 2 day delivery. O'Reilly planned to order direct from Wix for over a 1 week delivery time.
Can you guess where my filter is coming from?


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Re: Oil Filters [message #363098 is a reply to message #363079] Sat, 27 March 2021 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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A+++ for Amazon and UPS.. I have a basket with water and chips on my porch for those guys..
Scott.


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Re: Oil Filters [message #363100 is a reply to message #363098] Sun, 28 March 2021 06:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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WIX 51258 $4.22
WIX 51049 $7.48

I wasn't aware of the 51049. Thanks for info. To save shipping cost I usually buy them when ordering other items.

JP
Re: Oil Filters [message #363102 is a reply to message #363079] Sun, 28 March 2021 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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I don’t use the long one because:
1) I feel it is more exposed to being torn open by truck tire shards etc
2) more expensive
3) if you don’t get it pre filled (difficult due to angle) more no oil pressure time at first start up
4) I don’t go long enough between changes to restrict the media in the standard length filter


John Lebetski
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Re: Oil Filters [message #363174 is a reply to message #363079] Thu, 01 April 2021 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
skip2 is currently offline  skip2   United States
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Just my 2 cents, I've read that the 51049 and the NAPA equal, on the WIX site, does not have an anti drainback valve, I found the Baldwin B9 does but when installed it is very close to the bolt heads for the inner axle joint, I know it should never hit but I can't help but worry about some type of debris getting caught in there, not sure how close a 51049 is.

Skip Hartline


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Re: Oil Filters [message #363176 is a reply to message #363079] Thu, 01 April 2021 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Correct on no antidrainback in the longer can filter. The original AC filter was PF30 which is a PF24 (Buick) with no antidrainback. AC dropped the 30 years ago and let the 24 supersede. So in theory the valve is not required for BBO. But your concern on the Baldwin can size is to not be taken lightly. I saw another oversize application chafe snd rub through pumping out 4 quarts in 30 seconds. Bigger not always better.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Re: Oil Filters [message #363179 is a reply to message #363092] Thu, 01 April 2021 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ernest Dankert is currently offline  Ernest Dankert   United States
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An Industrial filter MAY have reinforced media.

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Ogden NY
Re: Oil Filters [message #363182 is a reply to message #363079] Thu, 01 April 2021 12:11 Go to previous message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Yes but burst strength is lower on the longer Wix.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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