Heater Blower Motor [message #362348] |
Fri, 12 February 2021 17:38 |
Greg C.
Messages: 224 Registered: October 2019 Location: Knoxville, TN
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So I routinely start the coach up once a week and let it run until it reaches operating temperature. It's in the 40's here right now, so I usually run the heater blower on high.
I know that the high position only runs on high when the alternator is producing power.
My medium speeds are the same as off/low, so I know my resistor is most likely bad.
But tonight, while the blower was on high, I turned it to low to listen to the engine for a bit. When I turned it back to high, I no longer have high speed. My alternator light works, and it wasn't lit up, so I
am assuming that the alternator didn't die at the exact instant I turned the fan to high.
Where should I look first?
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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Re: Heater Blower Motor [message #362349 is a reply to message #362348] |
Fri, 12 February 2021 18:11 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447 Registered: October 2006 Location: Woodstock, IL
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77 has a high delay relay. You have to wait after selecting high with engine running. That delay relay may have failed. You can easily patch around it no cutting as it was new for 77
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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Re: Heater Blower Motor [message #362350 is a reply to message #362348] |
Fri, 12 February 2021 18:14 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447 Registered: October 2006 Location: Woodstock, IL
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Your practice of starting and running in park puts combustion water in the oil every time you do it. Without driving, the oil won’t exceed 212F to boil off and be removed by PCV. The acidic water produces sludge.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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Re: Heater Blower Motor [message #362370 is a reply to message #362348] |
Sat, 13 February 2021 15:26 |
Greg C.
Messages: 224 Registered: October 2019 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Yes, I understand that idling will not get the oil hot enough to burn off moisture.
I do drive it down the road occasionally as well to exercise everything.
I'm waiting for a weather break ( I have to work outside) to pull the radiator and change the timing chain, water pump, belts, hoses, etc. and I will change the oil again at that time.
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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Re: Heater Blower Motor [message #362372 is a reply to message #362348] |
Sat, 13 February 2021 18:13 |
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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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Greg C. wrote on Fri, 12 February 2021 18:38So I routinely start the coach up once a week and let it run until it reaches operating temperature. It's in the 40's here right now, so I usually run the heater blower on high.
I know that the high position only runs on high when the alternator is producing power.
My medium speeds are the same as off/low, so I know my resistor is most likely bad.
But tonight, while the blower was on high, I turned it to low to listen to the engine for a bit. When I turned it back to high, I no longer have high speed. My alternator light works, and it wasn't lit up, so I
am assuming that the alternator didn't die at the exact instant I turned the fan to high.
Where should I look first?
Greg,
Find a piece of wire and rig a run straight from the starter battery to the fan terminal. Fan motors this old fail all the time. Replacement is easy and inexpensive.
It could be the resistor set too, the rivets get loose with age. Sometimes I have been able to reset them, but that has about a 50% success.
I have only seen one of the delay relays fail, but I am sure that they do.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: Heater Blower Motor [message #362392 is a reply to message #362348] |
Sun, 14 February 2021 16:41 |
Greg C.
Messages: 224 Registered: October 2019 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Per Matt's suggestion, I went out to the coach today with a jumper wire and found the high blower relay. When I jiggled the plug, the fan went to high. Just another case of corrosion on the contacts I guess.
Something else to clean.
Then I took the coach for a 20 mile warm up ride.
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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Re: Heater Blower Motor [message #362393 is a reply to message #362348] |
Sun, 14 February 2021 17:48 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447 Registered: October 2006 Location: Woodstock, IL
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Great! And that’s why GM eventually went to weatherpak connectors. I clean the ones at the hi relay and the resistor network yearly with D5. Helps prevent meltdown on those connectors from resistance heating. Common GM problem also found on other makes.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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