| Radiator Work [message #361802] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 09:13  |
Greg C.
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Good morning. I am going to be removing my radiator before long to have it recored.
Hopefully I will be able to remove the oil/transmission lines from the radiator without damage. I will be replacing the oil cooler lines, as they look to be original.
I assume that in order to recore, they will hot tank the radiator to clean it and unsolder the tanks.
Here's my question. Should I plug the oil and transmission cooler fittings on the radiator to isolate those cooler units? Or leave them open?
What does everyone typically do?
Thank you.
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| Re: Radiator Work [message #361804 is a reply to message #361802] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 11:44  |
jhbridges
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Ask the radiator shop. Most have a machine that pumps hot brake fluid - or whatever - through it in both directions. If nobody lunched the mill with the oil cooler connected, it ought to clean up. If it's got engine internals in it, I'd go for an outboard cooler.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Radiator Work [message #361805 is a reply to message #361804] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 12:01 |
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Wonder why you wouldn’t just replace the internal cooler. With the tanks
off there ain’t much to it.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 9:45 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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> Ask the radiator shop. Most have a machine that pumps hot brake fluid -
> or whatever - through it in both directions. If nobody lunched the mill
> with
> the oil cooler connected, it ought to clean up. If it's got engine
> internals in it, I'd go for an outboard cooler.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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| Re: Radiator Work [message #361806 is a reply to message #361802] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 13:05 |
Greg C.
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I didn't know there was an option to replace the internal coolers.
Seems like I saw some pictures somewhere showing the original coolers were superior to those in new radiators now, but someone may have some first hand knowledge.
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| Re: [GMCnet] Radiator Work [message #361807 is a reply to message #361806] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 14:04 |
sgltrac
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It’s just a copper or brass tube that does a u in one tank.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:05 AM Greg Crawford via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I didn't know there was an option to replace the internal coolers.
>
> Seems like I saw some pictures somewhere showing the original coolers were
> superior to those in new radiators now, but someone may have some first
> hand knowledge.
> --
> Greg Crawford
> KM4ZCR
> Knoxville, TN
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> "Ruby Sue"
> 1977 Royale
> Rear Bath
> 403 Engine
> American Eagle Wheels
> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Radiator Work [message #361809 is a reply to message #361807] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 15:53 |
jimk
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Greg,
Bothe the trans and Oil coolers are multi plate units that can only be
totally cleaned by a FAA certified shop as they are almost impossible to
flush out.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 12:05 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> It’s just a copper or brass tube that does a u in one tank.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
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> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:05 AM Greg Crawford via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I didn't know there was an option to replace the internal coolers.
>>
>> Seems like I saw some pictures somewhere showing the original coolers
> were
>> superior to those in new radiators now, but someone may have some first
>> hand knowledge.
>> --
>> Greg Crawford
>> KM4ZCR
>> Knoxville, TN
>>
>> "Ruby Sue"
>> 1977 Royale
>> Rear Bath
>> 403 Engine
>> American Eagle Wheels
>> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
>>
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| Re: Radiator Work [message #361810 is a reply to message #361802] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 16:16 |
Greg C.
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Thanks Jim. My engine is in good shape for now, so I have no reason to think the cooler is contaminated.
Does the oil go through the filter before, or after, the cooler?
Is it a good idea to put a remote filter on the transmission coming out of the cooler?
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| Re: [GMCnet] Radiator Work [message #361812 is a reply to message #361810] |
Sat, 16 January 2021 16:59 |
sgltrac
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Thanks Jim!
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 2:18 PM Greg Crawford via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Thanks Jim. My engine is in good shape for now, so I have no reason to
> think the cooler is contaminated.
>
> Does the oil go through the filter before, or after, the cooler?
>
> Is it a good idea to put a remote filter on the transmission coming out of
> the cooler?
> --
> Greg Crawford
> KM4ZCR
> Knoxville, TN
>
> "Ruby Sue"
> 1977 Royale
> Rear Bath
> 403 Engine
> American Eagle Wheels
> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
>
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| Re: Radiator Work [message #361819 is a reply to message #361802] |
Sun, 17 January 2021 11:39 |
Greg C.
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Thanks for posting that link. That is what I was looking for.
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| Re: Radiator Work [message #361827 is a reply to message #361802] |
Mon, 18 January 2021 08:18 |
JohnL455
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Engine oil filter is after the cooler. If the filter has a bypass it could bypass at cold start or if neglected. There is also a differential pressure bypass in the cooler adapter that could allow bypass under certain conditions. Especially if you are one of those that like to run the 15W-50. The trans filter is the first thing in the circuit and acts as a pickup before the pump.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Radiator Work [message #361841 is a reply to message #361802] |
Tue, 19 January 2021 09:38 |
jhbridges
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I believe Rob Mueller studied the various pressures and bypasses. Perhaps he'll join in here. Unless he's out at stoplights acting the fool in the Coyote motor Mustang 
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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