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Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359160] Sat, 03 October 2020 12:34 Go to next message
LarryInSanDiego is currently offline  LarryInSanDiego   United States
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How does one remove the inner dust cap without having to destroy it as I had to do? There's no way, that I can see at least with common tools, how to get that out with the conventional dust cap removal tool (or carefully tap it off with a screwdriver and hammer as is easily done on the outer dust cap that I suspect many of us have done).

That thing is so buried in there with the way the drum is attached...have I missed something obvious???

One thread mentions how the outer cap is regarded as redundant and one member just leaves it off. I would prefer just leaving off the inner one and just using the outer one. What say you all or is there a slick tool that exists to remove that inner cap? Thanks in advance.


Larry Engelbrecht San Diego, CA '73 26' ex-Glacier TZE063V100319 03/07/73

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Re: Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359161 is a reply to message #359160] Sat, 03 October 2020 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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I use channel-lock type pliers perpendicular to the end of the cap. Then rock it in and out and they come off not too bad. To get a replacement inner cap can be an issue.


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Re: [GMCnet] Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359162 is a reply to message #359160] Sat, 03 October 2020 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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A very small flat chisel. I start by going straight perpendicular at the
seam until the wedge of the chisel starts to grow the gap. Then lean the
chisel away from you and go a rotation. Now you should have room to insert
screw driver and twist. Kinda like opening a gallon of paint. A little at a
time.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 10:35 AM Larry Engelbrecht via Gmclist <
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> How does one remove the inner dust cap without having to destroy it as I
> had to do. There's no way, that I can see at least with common tools, how to
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> get that out with the conventional dust cap removal tool (or carefully tap
> it off with a screwdriver and hammer as is easily done on the outer dust
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> cap that I suspect many of us have done).
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> That thing is so buried in there with the way the drum is attached...have
> I missed something obvious???
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> Larry Engelbrecht
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> San Diego, CA
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> '73 26' ex-Glacier
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> TZE063V100319 03/07/73
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Re: Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359167 is a reply to message #359160] Sat, 03 October 2020 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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I have used channel locks like Bruce did. It dents the inner cap. but does not make holes in them. I would not go with the outer caps only. Just a personal preference.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359171 is a reply to message #359160] Sun, 04 October 2020 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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A Paint can lid tool works good. I have a couple around.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359181 is a reply to message #359167] Sun, 04 October 2020 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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I have a older large screwdriver that I bent the tip over like a paint can opener which gives me additional leverage to pry the inner cap off. NOT a good choice to NOT put the inner cap back on. You would be inviting a bearing failure because of the grease that would escape that area. The outer cap would catch the grease but not keep it in the bearing area. JMHO!

The original dust caps that were factory were a thicker wall construction than the currently available stuff today. I have a number of part number that may or not work and you need to check the OD and ID of the dust cap to insure that they will fit the hub. I have not tried these personally, I only offer the numbers as a starting point to solve your problem.

Napa # NOE 7351425
OR
Napa # NOE 7351404

Dorman # 618504
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AutoZone and Oreilly under number 13974

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> On Oct 3, 2020, at 11:14 PM, Carl Stouffer via Gmclist wrote:
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> I have used channel locks like Bruce did. It dents the inner cap. but does not make holes in them. I would not go with the outer caps only. Just a
> personal preference.
>
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359186 is a reply to message #359160] Sun, 04 October 2020 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You brake adjustment tool works well to oooch the caps off without tearing them up. If you've alread made a limpy exhibition of them, there's a Ford article that works. It's a bit taller and has a dished in face but fits and clears. If your cap is dented very much, it can hit the nut and/or cotterpin holding the drum on. There's notvery m,uch clearance between the spinning dust cap and stationary spindle nut. Replace it.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: Rear wheel dust caps - inner or outer or both? [message #359187 is a reply to message #359160] Sun, 04 October 2020 10:28 Go to previous message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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The Ford article is actually a Cardone 'blister pak' cap. What you're interested in is the diameter. It's been years, I don't have the Cardone number but look on the rack at the parts house.


--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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