Remote Start Panel [message #358913] |
Thu, 24 September 2020 14:43 |
Greg C.
Messages: 224 Registered: October 2019 Location: Knoxville, TN
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I have a couple of questions for everyone.
My generator will not respond to anything from the remote start panel. The much mentioned 4 conductor plug behind/underneath/beside/somewhere around the generator does not exist on mine. I have found four wires with crimp connectors on them, so perhaps those are the correct wires and the plug has been eliminated, but they're too far back in the compartment and too short for me to get to. I think I am just going to run a new four conductor cable from the generator control board to the remote start panel and try to fix the start/stop issue that way.
While working with the remote start panel, this is what I have discovered:
Tank levels, gray, black, and water, seem to work.
Water pump switch works.
Battery level meter does not work, but has ground and 12 volts on it's terminal, so I think it is kaput.
Fuel gauge reads full.
PO removed all traces of propane, so propane level does not work.
My questions are:
What does the Fuel Gauge indicate? Gasoline for the generator? My gas tanks are at about 3/4 full right now.
Where can I get a new battery level meter?
Thank you.
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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Re: [GMCnet] Remote Start Panel [message #358914 is a reply to message #358913] |
Thu, 24 September 2020 14:48 |
powwerjon
Messages: 849 Registered: March 2013
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Greg,
Before try to replace the 4 cond wire redo the 4 connectors at the back of the generator. If you must replace the wiring then you want to use at least 14 gauge wire.
JR Wright
Michigan
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Greg Crawford via Gmclist wrote:
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> I have a couple of questions for everyone.
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> My generator will not respond to anything from the remote start panel. The much mentioned 4 conductor plug behind/underneath/beside/somewhere around
> the generator does not exist on mine. I have found four wires with crimp connectors on them, so perhaps those are the correct wires and the plug has
> been eliminated, but they're too far back in the compartment and too short for me to get to. I think I am just going to run a new four conductor cable
> from the generator control board to the remote start panel and try to fix the start/stop issue that way.
>
> While working with the remote start panel, this is what I have discovered:
>
> Tank levels, gray, black, and water, seem to work.
> Water pump switch works.
> Battery level meter does not work, but has ground and 12 volts on it's terminal, so I think it is kaput.
> Fuel gauge reads full.
> PO removed all traces of propane, so propane level does not work.
>
> My questions are:
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> What does the Fuel Gauge indicate? Gasoline for the generator? My gas tanks are at about 3/4 full right now.
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> Where can I get a new battery level meter?
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> Thank you.
> --
> Greg Crawford
> Knoxville, TN
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> 1977 Royale
> 403
> Rear Bath
> American Eagle Wheels
> Alex Sirum Quad bags
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Re: Remote Start Panel [message #358921 is a reply to message #358913] |
Thu, 24 September 2020 15:51 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447 Registered: October 2006 Location: Woodstock, IL
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Disconnect the suspect cable at both ends. Run a long stringer wire with alligator clips on both ends from gen area to inside panel and Ohm out each wire and check for shorts to all others. You could use the chassis but if wire is grounded out you won’t get true readings. Mine was good panel to left front corner of gen compartment. I bought flat multi marine wire at West and soldered and shrunk at that point, then loomed it around back the factory way and along with the armored cable and to the board area where it connects on top row.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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Re: Remote Start Panel [message #358923 is a reply to message #358921] |
Thu, 24 September 2020 17:03 |
Bullitthead
Messages: 1411 Registered: November 2013
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Do what John said, bypass the cable first and make sure you have a working combo of switch and generator. One end or the other could be broken and the cable is just fine, it's easy to get fooled when dealing with suspect components.
The fuel gauge is for the propane tank.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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Re: Remote Start Panel [message #358928 is a reply to message #358913] |
Thu, 24 September 2020 20:26 |
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RF_Burns
Messages: 2277 Registered: June 2008 Location: S. Ontario, Canada
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Even easier....
The center contact of the remote switch is ground. Since you said nothing works at the remote, the ground is the only common connection for Start/Stop Run light and hour meter.
Run a new ground wire to the aluminum frame and see if it works. All the functions take less than an one amp, so a connection to the body frame will suffice.
If that does not fix it, then measure the voltage at the terminals of the switch while pressing the Start then Stop. The contacts are on the opposite side of switch from the function. I think you press the top of the switch for Start, so the Start terminal is at the bottom of the switch. It should goto near zero volts when pressed. If it does, then your problem is in the wiring to the circuit board or the circuit board itself. If the voltage does not drop to near zero, then check the voltage at the center terminal to be sure it is Zero volts. Then check the switch from the center terminal to the bottom terminal. When you press Start, the voltage should drop to near zero. If not, the switch is bad.
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC. 1 ton front end
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