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Richard RV
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I've repaired a few front wheel well liners in different ways (aluminum patches and pop rivets, plastic welding), but the liner plastic itself is usually in pretty poor shape and fading fast. So I'm wondering about the options.
Is anyone running with the aftermarket flexible fiberglass wheel well liners? I'm wondering about the fit and finish and whether you're happy with them.
Thanks
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358915 is a reply to message #358911] |
Thu, 24 September 2020 14:45  |
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I personally would never run without the liners in the front wheel wells. In wet or snow or icy condition all that get up in the front electrical area and all over the motor. There are a new fiberglas wheel well available, I think that you can check with Jim K, Mlight be a Frank Jenkins product.
JR Wright
Michigan
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>> I've repaired a few front wheel well liners in different ways (aluminum
>> patches and pop rivets, plastic welding), but the liner plastic itself is
>> usually in pretty poor shape and fading fast. So I'm wondering about the
>> options.
>>
>> Is anyone running with the aftermarket flexible fiberglass wheel well
>> liners? I'm wondering about the fit and finish and whether you're happy
>> with
>> them.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Richard
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>> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
>> ‘76 Edgemonte
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358925 is a reply to message #358911] |
Thu, 24 September 2020 17:39 |
Ken Henderson
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Many years ago, because my permanently mounted "flares" on the front wheel
wells made it very difficult to remove the wheel well liners, I cut them in
two longitudinally, like this:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3609-2-piece-wheel-well-liner.html
For the past 10+ years, the inner halves have never been installed. If I'd
known when I cut them that I'd leave the inner portions removed, I'd
probably have made the cuts further inboard to provide more protection for
the cockpit floors. The current arrangement is very satisfactory though,
because the undersides of those are covered by "duct board" (3/4"
fiberglass mat covered with an aluminized paper covering).
You may notice in the album that the vertical sections of the inner liners
had been replaced with aluminum (painted black). The plastic had been
badly distorted by the heat from the headers installed by the PO. If the
down-the-middle cuts had occurred to me earlier, I would have avoided that
mod.
JWID,
Ken H.
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>> I've repaired a few front wheel well liners in different ways (aluminum
>> patches and pop rivets, plastic welding), but the liner plastic itself is
>> usually in pretty poor shape and fading fast. So I'm wondering about the
>> options.
>>
>> Is anyone running with the aftermarket flexible fiberglass wheel well
>> liners? I'm wondering about the fit and finish and whether you're happy
>> with
>> them.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Richard
>> --
>> '77 Birchaven TZE...777;
>> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
>> ‘76 Edgemonte
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358930 is a reply to message #358925] |
Fri, 25 September 2020 09:25 |
Keith V
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I haven't run liners in 12 years. Of course I don''t drive in winter and only rarely in the rain
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners
Many years ago, because my permanently mounted "flares" on the front wheel
wells made it very difficult to remove the wheel well liners, I cut them in
two longitudinally, like this:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3609-2-piece-wheel-well-liner.html
For the past 10+ years, the inner halves have never been installed. If I'd
known when I cut them that I'd leave the inner portions removed, I'd
probably have made the cuts further inboard to provide more protection for
the cockpit floors. The current arrangement is very satisfactory though,
because the undersides of those are covered by "duct board" (3/4"
fiberglass mat covered with an aluminized paper covering).
You may notice in the album that the vertical sections of the inner liners
had been replaced with aluminum (painted black). The plastic had been
badly distorted by the heat from the headers installed by the PO. If the
down-the-middle cuts had occurred to me earlier, I would have avoided that
mod.
JWID,
Ken H.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:31 PM w schurman via Gmclist <
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> Just curious, how many run without these liners ??
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> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org>
> wrote:
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>> I've repaired a few front wheel well liners in different ways (aluminum
>> patches and pop rivets, plastic welding), but the liner plastic itself is
>> usually in pretty poor shape and fading fast. So I'm wondering about the
>> options.
>>
>> Is anyone running with the aftermarket flexible fiberglass wheel well
>> liners? I'm wondering about the fit and finish and whether you're happy
>> with
>> them.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Richard
>> --
>> '77 Birchaven TZE...777;
>> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
>> ‘76 Edgemonte
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358931 is a reply to message #358925] |
Fri, 25 September 2020 09:56 |
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Richard RV
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Ken.
I've seen some engine compartment plywood covering insulation where the foil scrim looked like hell, it was in tatters, which might have been due to road salt (aka fender solvent (and yes, Matt, I'm stealing your line!))
The duct board aluminum scrim that I've seen is paper thin. How has the duct board foil face stood up over time?
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358933 is a reply to message #358930] |
Fri, 25 September 2020 09:32 |
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You would stay home a lot of the year if you lived in Oregon. We have 3
seasons, July, August, and rain.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 7:25 AM Keith V via Gmclist
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> I haven't run liners in 12 years. Of course I don''t drive in winter and
> only rarely in the rain
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners
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> Many years ago, because my permanently mounted "flares" on the front wheel
> wells made it very difficult to remove the wheel well liners, I cut them in
> two longitudinally, like this:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3609-2-piece-wheel-well-liner.html
>
> For the past 10+ years, the inner halves have never been installed. If I'd
> known when I cut them that I'd leave the inner portions removed, I'd
> probably have made the cuts further inboard to provide more protection for
> the cockpit floors. The current arrangement is very satisfactory though,
> because the undersides of those are covered by "duct board" (3/4"
> fiberglass mat covered with an aluminized paper covering).
>
> You may notice in the album that the vertical sections of the inner liners
> had been replaced with aluminum (painted black). The plastic had been
> badly distorted by the heat from the headers installed by the PO. If the
> down-the-middle cuts had occurred to me earlier, I would have avoided that
> mod.
>
> JWID,
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:31 PM w schurman via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Just curious, how many run without these liners ??
>>
>> >
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>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> I've repaired a few front wheel well liners in different ways (aluminum
>>> patches and pop rivets, plastic welding), but the liner plastic itself
> is
>>> usually in pretty poor shape and fading fast. So I'm wondering about
> the
>>> options.
>>>
>>> Is anyone running with the aftermarket flexible fiberglass wheel well
>>> liners? I'm wondering about the fit and finish and whether you're
> happy
>>> with
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> --
>>> '77 Birchaven TZE...777;
>>> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
>>> ‘76 Edgemonte
>>>
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>> Steamboat Springs, CO
>> 80477
>> 1978 Palm Beach
>> TZE168V100258
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358934 is a reply to message #358931] |
Fri, 25 September 2020 10:03 |
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I used to call it Michigan termites.
Emery
> On Sep 25, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Richard via Gmclist wrote:
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> Ken.
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> I've seen some engine compartment plywood covering insulation where the foil scrim looked like hell, it was in tatters, which might have been due to
> road salt (aka fender solvent (and yes, Matt, I'm stealing your line!))
>
> The duct board aluminum scrim that I've seen is paper thin. How has the duct board foil face stood up over time?
>
> Richard
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358936 is a reply to message #358934] |
Fri, 25 September 2020 10:34 |
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:03 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
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> I used to call it Michigan termites.
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> Emery
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>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Richard via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Ken.
>>
>> I've seen some engine compartment plywood covering insulation where the
> foil scrim looked like hell, it was in tatters, which might have been due to
>> road salt (aka fender solvent (and yes, Matt, I'm stealing your line!))
>>
>> The duct board aluminum scrim that I've seen is paper thin. How has the
> duct board foil face stood up over time?
>>
>> Richard
>> --
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>> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
>> ‘76 Edgemonte
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358937 is a reply to message #358911] |
Fri, 25 September 2020 10:39 |
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I have traveled across the USA and Canada and experienced rain on every
trip.
We get into hurry and leave the inner fender off and regret that as the
plywood will get soaked and it will deteriorate..
Just noticed that our guys did installed the inner for me,
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:34 AM Jim Kanomata wrote:
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> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:03 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> I used to call it Michigan termites.
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>> Emery
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>>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Richard via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken.
>>>
>>> I've seen some engine compartment plywood covering insulation where the
>> foil scrim looked like hell, it was in tatters, which might have been due to
>>> road salt (aka fender solvent (and yes, Matt, I'm stealing your line!))
>>>
>>> The duct board aluminum scrim that I've seen is paper thin. How has
>> the duct board foil face stood up over time?
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> --
>>> '77 Birchaven TZE...777;
>>> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
>>> ‘76 Edgemonte
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fiberglass front wheel well liners [message #358952 is a reply to message #358931] |
Fri, 25 September 2020 19:30 |
Ken Henderson
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Richard,
The duct board has been under my floors and on the aft "firewall" for about
18 years. It's showing some age, but mostly where I've hit it with the
pressure washer. Of course, I NEVER drive in ice nor snow (not in the GMC,
nor the Honda, nor the Lexus, nor Santa's Sleigh).
Ken H.
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:56 AM Richard via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Ken.
>
> I've seen some engine compartment plywood covering insulation where the
> foil scrim looked like hell, it was in tatters, which might have been due to
> road salt (aka fender solvent (and yes, Matt, I'm stealing your line!))
>
> The duct board aluminum scrim that I've seen is paper thin. How has the
> duct board foil face stood up over time?
>
> Richard
> --
> '77 Birchaven TZE...777;
> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
> ‘76 Edgemonte
>
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