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Propane tank [message #358765] Fri, 18 September 2020 08:56 Go to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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Just had a question on the propane tank. I was wondering about the propane tank. I’ve seen something on other mods taking out the big tank and instead using the barbecue Rino tanks which I imagine is more readily available and would offer getting more propane without moving the coach. I’m wanting to go thru it to get it ready for winter use. Thoughts?

Thanks,
TG


Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: Propane tank [message #358766 is a reply to message #358765] Fri, 18 September 2020 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tgeiger wrote on Fri, 18 September 2020 09:56
Just had a question on the propane tank. I was wondering about the propane tank. I’ve seen something on other mods taking out the big tank and instead using the barbecue Rino tanks which I imagine is more readily available and would offer getting more propane without moving the coach. I’m wanting to go thru it to get it ready for winter use. Thoughts?

Thanks,
TG
The "big tank" is ASME certified and as such never needs to be reinspected - unlike the grill tanks which fall under D.O.T. regulations and must be reinspected 12 years after manufacture and every 5 years thereafter. The reinspection isn't a big deal if you are doing Rhino exchanges. However: there are various restrictions on D.O.T. tanks in highway tunnels that the ASME tank is not subject to. Personally I love the big tank and will keep it as a fill lasts me a long time.

If you are worried about using propane over the winter without moving the coach then why not just unscrew the regulator from the ASME tank and screw it into a grill tank sitting beside the coach with the appropriate adapter from the old style fitting on the coach hose to the new one on the grill tank?


Jim Miller 1977 Eleganza II 1977 Royale Hamilton, OH
Re: Propane tank [message #358767 is a reply to message #358765] Fri, 18 September 2020 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I installed a stay-longer kit to the existing system. Allows me to run the coach from an external tank.

Tony W.
Kirkland, WA
'76 Royale
Re: Propane tank [message #358774 is a reply to message #358765] Fri, 18 September 2020 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well that sounds like a way to go. I’ll check into that. My sender seems to have stopped working again and I’m not sure if there is anything in the tank. If I wanted to pull the tank out and clean it up along with the interior of its cubby hole will the tank have a check valve on it to allow me to disconnect the hose?

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TG


Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: Propane tank [message #358777 is a reply to message #358774] Fri, 18 September 2020 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tgeiger wrote on Fri, 18 September 2020 17:36
My sender seems to have stopped working again and I’m not sure if there is anything in the tank. If I wanted to pull the tank out and clean it up along with the interior of its cubby hole will the tank have a check valve on it to allow me to disconnect the hose?
Not sure what you are asking. You can turn the tank valve off and disconnect the hose/regulator and then do whatever you want. As for how much is in it - every ASME tank that I have seen in a GMC has a mechanical gauge on the sending unit that will give a general indication of the tank inventory.


Jim Miller 1977 Eleganza II 1977 Royale Hamilton, OH
Re: Propane tank [message #358795 is a reply to message #358765] Sat, 19 September 2020 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The easy way is to use your IR thermometer and point it at the tank. The temp will change as you move up and down the tank. The coldest area will be where the propane level is.

Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
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Re: Propane tank [message #361280 is a reply to message #358766] Wed, 30 December 2020 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim Miller wrote on Fri, 18 September 2020 10:27
tgeiger wrote on Fri, 18 September 2020 09:56
Just had a question on the propane tank. I was wondering about the propane tank. I’ve seen something on other mods taking out the big tank and instead using the barbecue Rino tanks which I imagine is more readily available and would offer getting more propane without moving the coach. I’m wanting to go thru it to get it ready for winter use. Thoughts?

Thanks,
TG
The "big tank" is ASME certified and as such never needs to be reinspected - unlike the grill tanks which fall under D.O.T. regulations and must be reinspected 12 years after manufacture and every 5 years thereafter.

Is this information about the ASME tank applicable to Canada? Can I get it filled with no problem? Also, what "stay-longer" kit works for using a 20 pounder or similar?
Thanks.
Burl


Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie

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Re: Propane tank [message #361282 is a reply to message #358765] Wed, 30 December 2020 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Burl,
After the big propane explosion in Toronto a number of years ago, the TSSA was going to have all mounted propane tanks in RV's inspected the same as propane power vehicles. Trying to get information out of TSSA was like pulling teeth.

They finally realized the logistics of having 25,000 RV's inspected in Ontario every 5 years was not possible. They finally came out with this directive which covers refueling RV propane systems used for appliances only, last page section 3:

https://www.tssa.org/en/fuels/resources/Refuelling-Propane-Vehicles-at-Licensed-Propane-Refueling-Stations-in-Ontario.pdf

I was never able to get any definitive answer about ASME tank inspection from the TSSA.

I pulled my tank out a couple of years ago since in 12 years I have not used up the first tank full. We use the tank from the home BBQ. I enjoy the extra storage space.




Bruce Hislop
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Re: Propane tank [message #361285 is a reply to message #361282] Thu, 31 December 2020 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just got agreed value insurance with a different insurance company they required an appraisal a safety inspection and a propane inspection I called 3 local rv dealers all told me that they could no longer do a motorhome I finally found one that could do it I now have a new 10 year brass tag on my tank so that seems to indicate that tanks in motorhomes in Ontario Canada need to be re certified every 10 years
Re: Propane tank [message #361293 is a reply to message #358765] Thu, 31 December 2020 09:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I personally think you are better to stay with the larger onboard tank. I am around enough propane tanks that they too - suck to try to figure out how much is in them, and you exchange many 1/4 full tanks, especially in the winter. in the winter they like to frost up, and you can only use a smaller portion of the capacity.

But if the GMC is not mobile, most of our GMC's are already set up to run on a portable tank set up next to the RV. the regulator is screwed in to our tank off a rubber line, just take it out of the onboard tank to use a portable tank.

my gauge generally works, but it has thrown me off a couple times. I am going to buy this for next year:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LP-Tank-Check-Propane-Level-Single-Sensor-Kit-024-1001-w-Free-Downloadable-App/303104299639?hash=item46926c9277:g:KzcAAOSwYEl c8DUp

I know one owner who is using this and said it works great.



Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: Propane tank [message #361298 is a reply to message #358765] Thu, 31 December 2020 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you want the best of both worlds, add an Extend-a-stay by Marshall brass.

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Re: Propane tank [message #361329 is a reply to message #358765] Fri, 01 January 2021 08:31 Go to previous message
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My big tank was leaking and the gauge did not work. Between finding the parts and being confident doing it, I switched to the smaller BBQ tank. I do not do much cold weather camping, or inside cooking so capacity was not an issue. Gave up a few tunnels I will likely never want to go through anyway for accessible storage for my leveling blocks and other outside items. I bought a tank with a gauge on it so I do not do the swaps, just refills - but since I can remove the tank it actually proves easier - drop the tank in the back of the truck and do it at Costco. Like most things GMC, you have to figure how you want to use it.

1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath Raleigh, NC
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