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Unnecessary complication [message #357512] |
Wed, 05 August 2020 12:45 |
indymac
Messages: 26 Registered: August 2013 Location: Decatur, IN
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While my coach is awaiting deployment as an RV, it is pinch hitting as the local wasp magnet, safe house, and recreation facility.
Mind you, I wish them no harm, just want them to relocate.
Also they represent an absolute and total deterrent to any hope for help.
After 10+ cans of wasp spray, 3 busted fly swatters, and expensive traps, I decided I would attempt to be smarter than they are.
Brief research proved not very helpful other than find the nests and treat them.
The first major infestation was the A/C unit on the roof.
They knew it would be hard to get to, and it was.
But after removing the cover and spraying they seem to be avoiding (can you hear me knocking on wood?)
Next, and well hidden, was the front frame. After spraying several times nothing worked.
Until I started blocking holes with steel wool.
Rusted after some time, I ended up opting for foam spray.
Concerned about trapping moisture, I choose the lessor of two evils.
Thinking there were only a couple, ended up being a challenge to find them all.
You may see the nests near the hole, but you'll never see the huge nests farther in the frame, or be able to spray them without special equipment.
And then the ones on vacation return.
Next, after continually spraying the oven vents for years, I upped the ante and placed screens cut to fit under the outer cover.
Intention is to eventually screen all exposed louvers and favorite haunts, generator, exhaust vent (can't get screw out), propane tank area, and fridge cover.
Yes, concerned about air flow but that's only an issue if you use things, not parked for 10 years.
Also on the list is rubber seals on the shore power lid and other swing or removable panels. They don't need much room to invite themselves in.
Oh, one they were good at giving me a decoys.
In the genset area I had knocked down several nests hanging just inside near the top.
Tracing a couple years later turned out the biggest nest was behind the foam insulation surrounding the genset, near the front top where it had separated from the body.
The two requiring Sherlock Holmes skills were the odd shaped tubes running along the bottom side of the coach after the rubber covers were lost.
One of the last ones was the area where the body is supported by the frame. Still have a few of those to go.
As I uncover more of their fox holes I will update.
Probably not a problem if you actually use your coach, but for me priority #1 and prerequisite for working on it.
They even built one behind the inside dash as I had left the engine cover off.
Oh, one I'm not sure about. Seen the buggers crawling inside around the A/C lines in the front. Not sure I've got that one under control.
Hint, if you're having trouble locating the nest, just look for the mud or whatever they leave behind after they land going home.
May be due to my location near a creek. I'm sure much more prone to unused coaches.
I will consider myself with this singular expertise on GMC Motorhomes, and nothing else, until I hear another suggestion.
Will gladly relinquish the crown for any help whatsoever.
Please don't ask how many hours I have in this project, or give my significant other a hint how much time I was wasting.
77 Palm Beach 403
Decatur, IN
TZE167V101738
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Re: Unnecessary complication [message #357514 is a reply to message #357512] |
Wed, 05 August 2020 13:45 |
C Boyd
Messages: 2629 Registered: April 2006
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Sir, soapy water in a garden sprayer will kill flying insects, wasps, yellow jackets, etc. on contact. A friend had the biggest Yellowjacket nest I have ever seen under the aluminum siding of her house. It took some caution and all day but no more Yellowjackets.
indymac wrote on Wed, 05 August 2020 13:45While my coach is awaiting deployment as an RV, it is pinch hitting as the local wasp magnet, safe house, and recreation facility.
Mind you, I wish them no harm, just want them to relocate.
Also they represent an absolute and total deterrent to any hope for help.
After 10+ cans of wasp spray, 3 busted fly swatters, and expensive traps, I decided I would attempt to be smarter than they are.
Brief research proved not very helpful other than find the nests and treat them.
The first major infestation was the A/C unit on the roof.
They knew it would be hard to get to, and it was.
But after removing the cover and spraying they seem to be avoiding (can you hear me knocking on wood?)
Next, and well hidden, was the front frame. After spraying several times nothing worked.
Until I started blocking holes with steel wool.
Rusted after some time, I ended up opting for foam spray.
Concerned about trapping moisture, I choose the lessor of two evils.
Thinking there were only a couple, ended up being a challenge to find them all.
You may see the nests near the hole, but you'll never see the huge nests farther in the frame, or be able to spray them without special equipment.
And then the ones on vacation return.
Next, after continually spraying the oven vents for years, I upped the ante and placed screens cut to fit under the outer cover.
Intention is to eventually screen all exposed louvers and favorite haunts, generator, exhaust vent (can't get screw out), propane tank area, and fridge cover.
Yes, concerned about air flow but that's only an issue if you use things, not parked for 10 years.
Also on the list is rubber seals on the shore power lid and other swing or removable panels. They don't need much room to invite themselves in.
Oh, one they were good at giving me a decoys.
In the genset area I had knocked down several nests hanging just inside near the top.
Tracing a couple years later turned out the biggest nest was behind the foam insulation surrounding the genset, near the front top where it had separated from the body.
The two requiring Sherlock Holmes skills were the odd shaped tubes running along the bottom side of the coach after the rubber covers were lost.
One of the last ones was the area where the body is supported by the frame. Still have a few of those to go.
As I uncover more of their fox holes I will update.
Probably not a problem if you actually use your coach, but for me priority #1 and prerequisite for working on it.
They even built one behind the inside dash as I had left the engine cover off.
Oh, one I'm not sure about. Seen the buggers crawling inside around the A/C lines in the front. Not sure I've got that one under control.
Hint, if you're having trouble locating the nest, just look for the mud or whatever they leave behind after they land going home.
May be due to my location near a creek. I'm sure much more prone to unused coaches.
I will consider myself with this singular expertise on GMC Motorhomes, and nothing else, until I hear another suggestion.
Will gladly relinquish the crown for any help whatsoever.
Please don't ask how many hours I have in this project, or give my significant other a hint how much time I was wasting.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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Re: [GMCnet] Unnecessary complication [message #357515 is a reply to message #357514] |
Wed, 05 August 2020 14:01 |
Mike Kelley
Messages: 467 Registered: February 2017
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Chuck - The flying insect specialist:
I assume you also have a drivable GMC!
Mike/the Corvair a holic
Note: Married to Billie Young (as you knew her - now Billie Kelley as of 6 1/2 years ago).
She says Hi!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 5, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Charles Boyd via Gmclist wrote:
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> Sir, soapy water in a garden sprayer will kill flying insects, wasps, yellow jackets, etc. on contact. A friend had the biggest Yellowjacket nest I
> have ever seen under the aluminum siding of her house. It took some caution and all day but no more Yellowjackets.
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> indymac wrote on Wed, 05 August 2020 13:45
>> While my coach is awaiting deployment as an RV, it is pinch hitting as the local wasp magnet, safe house, and recreation facility.
>> Mind you, I wish them no harm, just want them to relocate.
>> Also they represent an absolute and total deterrent to any hope for help.
>> After 10+ cans of wasp spray, 3 busted fly swatters, and expensive traps, I decided I would attempt to be smarter than they are.
>> Brief research proved not very helpful other than find the nests and treat them.
>>
>> The first major infestation was the A/C unit on the roof.
>> They knew it would be hard to get to, and it was.
>> But after removing the cover and spraying they seem to be avoiding (can you hear me knocking on wood?)
>>
>> Next, and well hidden, was the front frame. After spraying several times nothing worked.
>> Until I started blocking holes with steel wool.
>> Rusted after some time, I ended up opting for foam spray.
>> Concerned about trapping moisture, I choose the lessor of two evils.
>> Thinking there were only a couple, ended up being a challenge to find them all.
>> You may see the nests near the hole, but you'll never see the huge nests farther in the frame, or be able to spray them without special
>> equipment.
>> And then the ones on vacation return.
>>
>> Next, after continually spraying the oven vents for years, I upped the ante and placed screens cut to fit under the outer cover.
>> Intention is to eventually screen all exposed louvers and favorite haunts, generator, exhaust vent (can't get screw out), propane tank area, and
>> fridge cover.
>> Yes, concerned about air flow but that's only an issue if you use things, not parked for 10 years.
>> Also on the list is rubber seals on the shore power lid and other swing or removable panels. They don't need much room to invite themselves in.
>>
>> Oh, one they were good at giving me a decoys.
>> In the genset area I had knocked down several nests hanging just inside near the top.
>> Tracing a couple years later turned out the biggest nest was behind the foam insulation surrounding the genset, near the front top where it had
>> separated from the body.
>>
>> The two requiring Sherlock Holmes skills were the odd shaped tubes running along the bottom side of the coach after the rubber covers were lost.
>> One of the last ones was the area where the body is supported by the frame. Still have a few of those to go.
>>
>> As I uncover more of their fox holes I will update.
>>
>> Probably not a problem if you actually use your coach, but for me priority #1 and prerequisite for working on it.
>> They even built one behind the inside dash as I had left the engine cover off.
>>
>> Oh, one I'm not sure about. Seen the buggers crawling inside around the A/C lines in the front. Not sure I've got that one under control.
>> Hint, if you're having trouble locating the nest, just look for the mud or whatever they leave behind after they land going home.
>>
>> May be due to my location near a creek. I'm sure much more prone to unused coaches.
>>
>> I will consider myself with this singular expertise on GMC Motorhomes, and nothing else, until I hear another suggestion.
>> Will gladly relinquish the crown for any help whatsoever.
>>
>> Please don't ask how many hours I have in this project, or give my significant other a hint how much time I was wasting.
>
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> C. Boyd
> 76 Crestmont
> East Tennessee
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Re: Unnecessary complication [message #357530 is a reply to message #357514] |
Thu, 06 August 2020 19:47 |
indymac
Messages: 26 Registered: August 2013 Location: Decatur, IN
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Be still my heart.
You've knocked $50 off my annual wasp budget!
Ever since reading your tip I've had the Grass Roots "Where were you when I needed you"
In my head and can't get it out.
Now, save what's left of my sanity.
Tell me it works for chiggers.
The wasps don't bite.
The chiggers do, right where you don't want to be bite or scratch.
The bites are 10X worse than mosquito and take forever to go away, actually leaving scars!
The are my ultimate arch rival, and an even longer battle.
Will it work on those or do you know of another cure?
Forever grateful
Jim
77 Palm Beach 403
Decatur, IN
TZE167V101738
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Re: Unnecessary complication [message #357535 is a reply to message #357530] |
Fri, 07 August 2020 08:20 |
C Boyd
Messages: 2629 Registered: April 2006
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Sir, don’t know bout chiggers? It will work if they breathe thru their abdomen as flying insects do. As for saving money on wasp spray, I still keep a fresh can at every entrance to the house as a deterrent to unwanted intruders instead of keeping a Kid safe loaded gun within arms reach when opening the door.
Mike/the Corvair a holic , yes I remember Ms Billie. Please tell her I say Hay.. and yes We have a coach that is drivable.
indymac wrote on Thu, 06 August 2020 20:47Be still my heart.
You've knocked $50 off my annual wasp budget!
Ever since reading your tip I've had the Grass Roots "Where were you when I needed you"
In my head and can't get it out.
Now, save what's left of my sanity.
Tell me it works for chiggers.
The wasps don't bite.
The chiggers do, right where you don't want to be bite or scratch.
The bites are 10X worse than mosquito and take forever to go away, actually leaving scars!
The are my ultimate arch rival, and an even longer battle.
Will it work on those or do you know of another cure?
Forever grateful
Jim
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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Re: Unnecessary complication [message #357578 is a reply to message #357512] |
Sat, 08 August 2020 12:37 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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Well, I just refilled the differential with its new synthetic 75-140 weight (I think... can's outside) and watched the crunchbugs - paper wasps this time - hang around the front of the coach. Inside the open passenger side hatch I could see the edge of a nest hanging from the underside of the cowl. The passenger side hatch opening and parts beyond now look like a FireFight<tm> demo. The foam will recede and it doesn't hurt anything but the wasps.
My engine oil cooler lines were off for a bit, they now have dirt dobber nests within. I will have to pass a swab through them to get them clean.
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] Unnecessary complication [message #357579 is a reply to message #357578] |
Sat, 08 August 2020 13:06 |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806 Registered: May 2010
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Johnny, view Robin Hood's videos. They are hilarious. Poor Robin, but he
prevails in the end. Should be required viewing for all GMCers.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 10:38 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Well, I just refilled the differential with its new synthetic 75-140
> weight (I think... can's outside) and watched the crunchbugs - paper wasps
> this
> time - hang around the front of the coach. Inside the open passenger side
> hatch I could see the edge of a nest hanging from the underside of the
> cowl. The passenger side hatch opening and parts beyond now look like a
> FireFight demo. The foam will recede and it doesn't hurt anything but
> the wasps.
> My engine oil cooler lines were off for a bit, they now have dirt dobber
> nests within. I will have to pass a swab through them to get them clean.
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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Re: Unnecessary complication [message #357598 is a reply to message #357512] |
Sun, 09 August 2020 07:31 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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Robin is something of a hoot. He hauled that coach to his current location on six wheels and tires I gave him. Hopefully he'll get ahead of Morgan and Morgan enough to join us at some rallies when things open back up.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: Unnecessary complication [message #357620 is a reply to message #357512] |
Mon, 10 August 2020 11:24 |
kingd
Messages: 592 Registered: June 2004
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I don't know where she bought it but SHE found stainless steel steel wool for blocking mouse entrance at her house.
Solves the rusting problem.
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Unnecessary complication [message #357640 is a reply to message #357512] |
Tue, 11 August 2020 08:37 |
TR 1
Messages: 348 Registered: August 2015 Location: DFW
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The soapy water thing works on fire ants as well....
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX
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