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Door adjustment [message #356847] Thu, 16 July 2020 15:14 Go to next message
Greg C. is currently offline  Greg C.   United States
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My new coach door won't close all the way without slamming it much harder than I would like.

Chuck Boyd looked at it and suggested some lubrication, and failing that, adjustment.

How do I go about adjusting this?

It appears that the strike has four #3 (actually 3, one is missing) Phillips head screws and possibly sliding captured nuts that will move.

Does the actual latch on the door have any adjustments?

As you can see below, the door lacks almost 3/8" being flush with the body.

[url=http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7311/Door_needs_adjusting.jpg]http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7311/Door_needs_adjusting.jpg[url]


Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #356850 is a reply to message #356847] Thu, 16 July 2020 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Greg,

You must have missed the thread on that very topic a week ago:
https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/u/0/#search/latch/FMfcgxwJWjBjSJZLKZzrrnmGDcSFddGc


There was also a little earlier one about re-curving the door, which you
may also need. Go to the GMCNet archive at
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gmcnet-archive for that and other
threads you may need -- just search for a key word, like "recurve".

I can't overemphasize the importance of the solid pin striker. Jim K. has
reported problems getting cores so you may have a little difficulty
ordering one right away -- but DO get one. And when you remove the old one
BE SURE TO NEVER remove all 4 screws at once -- the nut plate is not
captured and you may lose it inside the wall.

Ken H.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:15 PM Greg Crawford via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> My new coach door won't close all the way without slamming it much harder
> than I would like.
>
> Chuck Boyd looked at it and suggested some lubrication, and failing that,
> adjustment.
>
> How do I go about adjusting this?
>
> It appears that the strike has four #3 (actually 3, one is missing)
> Phillips head screws and possibly sliding captured nuts that will move.
>
> Does the actual latch on the door have any adjustments?
>
> As you can see below, the door lacks almost 3/8" being flush with the body.
>
> [url=
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7311/Door_needs_adjusting.jpg][url]
> --
> Greg Crawford
> Knoxville, TN
>
> 1977 Royale, rear bath
> Quad bags, brand unknown
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #356852 is a reply to message #356847] Thu, 16 July 2020 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Cannot see your image. I’m an email user.
The latch is not adjustable for door alignment purposes. The adjustment is
accomplished by moving the strike that the latch grabs. Loosen it a bit and
tap it with a hammer and large screw driver. You may want to circle the
latch with a marker so you can return to where you were before you started
if need be. Sometimes due to the way the double action latch works you will
actually have to move the pin outward in order to get the latch to its
second position which will pull the door inward compared to the body.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:15 PM Greg Crawford via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> My new coach door won't close all the way without slamming it much harder
> than I would like.
>
> Chuck Boyd looked at it and suggested some lubrication, and failing that,
> adjustment.
>
> How do I go about adjusting this?
>
> It appears that the strike has four #3 (actually 3, one is missing)
> Phillips head screws and possibly sliding captured nuts that will move.
>
> Does the actual latch on the door have any adjustments?
>
> As you can see below, the door lacks almost 3/8" being flush with the body.
>
> [url=
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7311/Door_needs_adjusting.jpg][url]
> --
> Greg Crawford
> Knoxville, TN
>
> 1977 Royale, rear bath
> Quad bags, brand unknown
>
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Re: Door adjustment [message #356857 is a reply to message #356847] Thu, 16 July 2020 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg C. is currently offline  Greg C.   United States
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So to be clear, I should loosen the four #3 Phillips head screws and move the entire strike?

Or can the actual pin be loosened and adjusted?

Thanks!


Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #356865 is a reply to message #356857] Thu, 16 July 2020 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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The pin's welded into the plate so that must move. The pin is surrounded
with rubber and a tube. The rubber has deteriorated to the point that it
doesn't have sufficient resistance to inward movement to make the latch
operate properly. You'll probably have to move the plate outboard to get
the latch to go to the second stage. Then, the rubber will allow some
"slop", so the door still won't close as tightly as you'd like. The solid
steel pin makes it all work better -- once we can find you one. I just
removed mine to take to my metalworkers tomorrow to see about having some
made. I'll keep you posted.

Ken H.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:50 PM Greg Crawford via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> So to be clear, I should loosen the four #3 Phillips head screws and move
> the entire strike?
>
> Or can the actual pin be loosened and adjusted?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Greg Crawford
> Knoxville, TN
>
> 1977 Royale, rear bath
> Quad bags, brand unknown
>
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Re: Door adjustment [message #356866 is a reply to message #356857] Thu, 16 July 2020 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JShot is currently offline  JShot   United States
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I believe the pin is either "smashed" in like a rivet, or it's welded

John Shotwell
Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #356868 is a reply to message #356865] Thu, 16 July 2020 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vern Crawford is currently offline  Vern Crawford   United States
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Howdy Ken,

If your metalworker friend can make several, please set one aside for me if
you don’t mind. I look forward to seeing you at the next GMCMI convention,
whenever and wherever that might be!

Virtual hugs,
Vern and Lenore

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:39 PM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> The pin's welded into the plate so that must move. The pin is surrounded
> with rubber and a tube. The rubber has deteriorated to the point that it
> doesn't have sufficient resistance to inward movement to make the latch
> operate properly. You'll probably have to move the plate outboard to get
> the latch to go to the second stage. Then, the rubber will allow some
> "slop", so the door still won't close as tightly as you'd like. The solid
> steel pin makes it all work better -- once we can find you one. I just
> removed mine to take to my metalworkers tomorrow to see about having some
> made. I'll keep you posted.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:50 PM Greg Crawford via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> So to be clear, I should loosen the four #3 Phillips head screws and move
>> the entire strike?
>>
>> Or can the actual pin be loosened and adjusted?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> Greg Crawford
>> Knoxville, TN
>>
>> 1977 Royale, rear bath
>> Quad bags, brand unknown
>>
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Re: Door adjustment [message #356873 is a reply to message #356866] Fri, 17 July 2020 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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It is welded on the back side and ground off almost flat.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #356874 is a reply to message #356868] Fri, 17 July 2020 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Vern,
Wilco. If he's willing/able, I'll announce it.

Ken H.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:42 PM Vern Crawford
wrote:

> Howdy Ken,
>
> If your metalworker friend can make several, please set one aside for me
> if you don’t mind. I look forward to seeing you at the next GMCMI
> convention, whenever and wherever that might be!
>
> Virtual hugs,
> Vern and Lenore
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:39 PM Ken Henderson via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> The pin's welded into the plate so that must move. The pin is surrounded
>> with rubber and a tube. The rubber has deteriorated to the point that it
>> doesn't have sufficient resistance to inward movement to make the latch
>> operate properly. You'll probably have to move the plate outboard to get
>> the latch to go to the second stage. Then, the rubber will allow some
>> "slop", so the door still won't close as tightly as you'd like. The solid
>> steel pin makes it all work better -- once we can find you one. I just
>> removed mine to take to my metalworkers tomorrow to see about having some
>> made. I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:50 PM Greg Crawford via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> So to be clear, I should loosen the four #3 Phillips head screws and
>> move
>>> the entire strike?
>>>
>>> Or can the actual pin be loosened and adjusted?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> Greg Crawford
>>> Knoxville, TN
>>>
>>> 1977 Royale, rear bath
>>> Quad bags, brand unknown
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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> 155 JJ Lane
> Center Point, TX 78010
> (618) 203-8296 Vern's cell
> (830) 928-5550 Lenore's cell
> VernCrawford@GMail.Com
> LenoreLangsdorf@GMail.Com
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #357012 is a reply to message #356874] Mon, 20 July 2020 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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The machinist and I will get together shortly. He's interested in the
project -- especially since he may be in the market for a GMC. While he's
very busy with USAF contracts, he has CNC mills & lathes; lazer, plasma,
and water jet cutters so the project will be trivial for him.

Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #357013 is a reply to message #357012] Mon, 20 July 2020 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg C. is currently offline  Greg C.   United States
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Thanks for the update.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:59 PM Ken Henderson wrote:

> The machinist and I will get together shortly. He's interested in the
> project -- especially since he may be in the market for a GMC. While he's
> very busy with USAF contracts, he has CNC mills & lathes; lazer, plasma,
> and water jet cutters so the project will be trivial for him.
>
> Ken H.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door adjustment [message #357014 is a reply to message #357012] Mon, 20 July 2020 12:24 Go to previous message
Vern Crawford is currently offline  Vern Crawford   United States
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Great!

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:59 AM Ken Henderson
wrote:

> The machinist and I will get together shortly. He's interested in the
> project -- especially since he may be in the market for a GMC. While he's
> very busy with USAF contracts, he has CNC mills & lathes; lazer, plasma,
> and water jet cutters so the project will be trivial for him.
>
> Ken H.
>
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