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Tent showers - Covid times [message #355085] Sun, 24 May 2020 16:59 Go to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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Hey guys, thought I’d check to see if anyone knew of any restrictions on using tent showers in state parks or national parks. I have a group of friends we go camping with regularly and a few are concerned of the campsite bathrooms and shower usage. Was wondering if a tent shower could be a answer for them.

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Tom
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Re: [GMCnet] Tent showers - Covid times [message #355098 is a reply to message #355085] Sun, 24 May 2020 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,
It is unlikely that any state park or national park would allow grey waste water to be drained on the ground.

JR Wright
> On May 24, 2020, at 5:59 PM, tom geiger via Gmclist wrote:
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> Hey guys, thought I’d check to see if anyone knew of any restrictions on using tent showers in state parks or national parks. I have a group of
> friends we go camping with regularly and a few are concerned of the campsite bathrooms and shower usage. Was wondering if a tent shower could be a
> answer for them.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 76 Eleganza 2
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Re: Tent showers - Covid times [message #355104 is a reply to message #355085] Mon, 25 May 2020 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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I was wondering JR. I searched all of my State Park web site and nothing mentions them. Only item I ran across was restrictions in Yellow Stone because of the florals in soaps and shampoo’s attract bears.

TG


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Re: [GMCnet] Tent showers - Covid times [message #355111 is a reply to message #355104] Mon, 25 May 2020 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,
I suggest that you contact one of the state parks that you want to visit and ask the ranger if it is permissible to discharge grey water on the ground, shower water is consider grey water. The old trick that was use by some was to let the gray water slowly drain on the ground under the RV. State of Michigan you get fined and ask to leave the park if they catch you doing that. I respect the environment enough to not contaminate the ground.

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> On May 25, 2020, at 8:42 AM, tom geiger via Gmclist wrote:
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> I was wondering JR. I searched all of my State Park web site and nothing mentions them. Only item I ran across was restrictions in Yellow Stone
> because of the florals in soaps and shampoo’s attract bears.
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Re: Tent showers - Covid times [message #355116 is a reply to message #355085] Mon, 25 May 2020 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Completely agree with that JR. My friends are definitely about the environment. I believe they were planning on using biodegradables in their showering if they were allowed.

TG


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Re: Tent showers - Covid times [message #355123 is a reply to message #355116] Mon, 25 May 2020 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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It may not really be that much of a concern. Back a couple of months ago, when the quarantine order first went into affect, The GMCSJ had a rally at one of the state parks, which were still open in AZ. The camp hosts were meticulous about cleaning the restroom/shower units and did a really thorough job of it every morning, at least.

We stuck with our own facilities, like we usually do, but I wouldn't have hesitated to use the park restrooms.


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Re: Tent showers - Covid times [message #355138 is a reply to message #355123] Tue, 26 May 2020 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,

Sounds like you found a nice state park with very clean facilities, unfortunately that's not always the case. The stuff I've seen... Shocked

As far as taking an outdoor shower, I think everyone, park rangers included, wouldn't be bothered by someone rinsing themselves down outside. Dumping a grey water tank on the sly is another question entirely and sure to piss off the management and others.

I'd go ahead and take the shower with environmentally friendly soap. If the management had a problem with it they would give a warning first...then it'd be on to Plan B.

Richard


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Re: Tent showers - Covid times [message #355143 is a reply to message #355138] Tue, 26 May 2020 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Have you ever been to an outdoor shower at the beach. Most of them just drain on the ground. I have seen drinking fountains the same way.

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Re: Tent showers - Covid times [message #355144 is a reply to message #355085] Tue, 26 May 2020 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you are camping with nice dry air they might try draining to a kiddy pool and rigging up an Evapotron....

https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=evapotrons

Designs can be found online ranging from the simple to Rube Goldbergian. Can be fun for the types that prefer an engineering project to hiking/birdwatching etc.


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Re: [GMCnet] Tent showers - Covid times [message #355145 is a reply to message #355144] Tue, 26 May 2020 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Judy and I have made 2 coast to coast trips in our coach. Both were 6 weeks
or longer in duration. One, crossing Canada in desolate country. The other,
retracing Route 66 from east to west. We saw some scary public showers, and
some pristine ones. Some co-ed ones were very interesting. But, not during
a pandemic. I would shower inside my coach, if I were you.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

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> If you are camping with nice dry air they might try draining to a kiddy
> pool and rigging up an Evapotron....
>
> https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=evapotrons
>
> Designs can be found online ranging from the simple to Rube Goldbergian.
> Can be fun for the types that prefer an engineering project to
> hiking/birdwatching etc.
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Re: Tent showers - Covid times [message #355153 is a reply to message #355085] Tue, 26 May 2020 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep Jim, we’re planning on showering in our GMC. I will offer it to the others that have pop-up’s and do have showers in them its just their tank capacities are pretty small. Will get it figured out.

TG


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Re: [GMCnet] Tent showers - Covid times [message #355159 is a reply to message #355153] Tue, 26 May 2020 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Having a small holding is not an excuse. I have a blue portable waste holding tank that I take along when we go to rallies that have water and power, but no sewer at the campsite. Mine holds 30 gallons and allows me to dump my black and grey waste without moving the GMC. I would suggest this or similar units that are available.

https://www.campingworld.com/camco-rhino-portable-waste-holding-tanks-112493.html

This is the one like I have.



There are also many in the 10 & 15 gallon size.



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> On May 26, 2020, at 5:09 PM, tom geiger via Gmclist wrote:
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> Yep Jim, we’re planning on showering in our GMC. I will offer it to the others that have pop-up’s and do have showers in them its just their tank
> capacities are pretty small. Will get it figured out.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tent showers - Covid times [message #355414 is a reply to message #355159] Wed, 03 June 2020 22:36 Go to previous message
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JR,

I share your concern for the natural environment, and clearly the overriding factor is whether Park management and/or the neighbors would take issue with someone showering outside their RV.

Showering outside is not doing the "wrong thing" if someone takes the most modest (pun intended) of care.

For instance, Dr. Bronner's Pure Castile Soap is essentially food:
INGREDIENTS
Water, Organic Coconut Oil*, Potassium Hydroxide**, Organic Palm Kernel Oil*, Organic Olive Oil*, Organic Hemp Oil, Organic Jojoba Oil, Natural Almond Fragrance, Citric Acid, Tocopherol
*CERTIFIED FAIR TRADE INGREDIENTS
**None remains after saponifying oils into soap & glycerin.
and
"Only the purest organic and fair trade ingredients—most products vegan and certified to the same organic standards as food! No synthetic preservatives, no foaming agents."

Now compare 1/2 ounce(?) of that soap versus the various dead dinosaur fluids that drip from the bottom of an RV while parked at that pristine camp site. They really don't seem to me to be comparable.

Again, management would have the final say, but I consider showering outside with eco-friendly products to be benign and I've never been shut down taking one.

Richard


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