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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355059 is a reply to message #355053] |
Sat, 23 May 2020 21:08   |
Ken Henderson
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When the EBC yellow pads first showed up, I, with some helpers, ran tests
to see if they were really any good:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4642-calibrated-brake-tests.html
After putting about 20,000 miles on them, I when through a similar series
of tests, the results of which I no longer know where to find. But I do
remember the bottom lines: They were COMPLETELY worn out at that mileage
(which is the limit of the EBC warranty). The friction material was
breaking away from the steel pads. And the braking results were back down
by the 5% or so advantage they had over the Performance Frictions they
replaced.
I put new Performance Frictions D052's back on my GMC (with their lifetime
warranty) and have never looked back.
Applied GMC sells the Yellow EBC's and, probably, the Performance Frictions
(O'Reilly's definitely does). I suspect the price is about the same. Your
choice; I've made mine.
Ken H.
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 8:42 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Anyone know off hand what the EBC number is for the Yellowstuff pads or is
> their something better? If so make and part # please.....thanks
> --
> Rich Mondor,
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> Brockville, ON
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> 77 Hughes 2600
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355060 is a reply to message #355059] |
Sat, 23 May 2020 21:49 |
Dolph Santorine
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Ken:
I’ve been a fan of Performance Friction and Hawk brake pads for a while.
There’s a newcomer on the scene, and it’s NRS
Home - NRS Brakes
We have a set on my car and my wife’s car and are quite pleased. They address the rust jacking and the adhesion directly.
There’s also this (and I don’t remember if it’s been here or in one of the other communities I follow).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8O2tJOGLE
I’ve had the same experience you have with EBC, and it’s why I avoid them.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress”
|[ ]~~~[][ ][] \
"--OO--[]---O-"
> On May 23, 2020, at 10:08 PM, Ken Henderson via Gmclist wrote:
>
> When the EBC yellow pads first showed up, I, with some helpers, ran tests
> to see if they were really any good:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4642-calibrated-brake-tests.html
>
> After putting about 20,000 miles on them, I when through a similar series
> of tests, the results of which I no longer know where to find. But I do
> remember the bottom lines: They were COMPLETELY worn out at that mileage
> (which is the limit of the EBC warranty). The friction material was
> breaking away from the steel pads. And the braking results were back down
> by the 5% or so advantage they had over the Performance Frictions they
> replaced.
>
> I put new Performance Frictions D052's back on my GMC (with their lifetime
> warranty) and have never looked back.
>
> Applied GMC sells the Yellow EBC's and, probably, the Performance Frictions
> (O'Reilly's definitely does). I suspect the price is about the same. Your
> choice; I've made mine.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 8:42 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know off hand what the EBC number is for the Yellowstuff pads or is
>> their something better? If so make and part # please.....thanks
>> --
>> Rich Mondor,
>>
>> Brockville, ON
>>
>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355062 is a reply to message #355060] |
Sat, 23 May 2020 22:18 |
James Hupy
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Anything that improves the braking effort very much over stock, has to come
at a price. Usually, faster pad wear. I personally use ONLY RIVETED Semi
metallic linings. There are several brands out there that work well. They
do make more noise, but work well in any weather. Anything you use will
have good points as well as bad points.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Oregon
On Sat, May 23, 2020, 7:50 PM Dolph Santorine via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Ken:
>
> I’ve been a fan of Performance Friction and Hawk brake pads for a while.
>
> There’s a newcomer on the scene, and it’s NRS
>
> Home - NRS Brakes
>
> We have a set on my car and my wife’s car and are quite pleased. They
> address the rust jacking and the adhesion directly.
>
> There’s also this (and I don’t remember if it’s been here or in one of the
> other communities I follow).
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8O2tJOGLE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8O2tJOGLE>
>
> I’ve had the same experience you have with EBC, and it’s why I avoid them.
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress”
>
> |[ ]~~~[][ ][] \
> "--OO--[]---O-"
>
>> On May 23, 2020, at 10:08 PM, Ken Henderson via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> When the EBC yellow pads first showed up, I, with some helpers, ran tests
>> to see if they were really any good:
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4642-calibrated-brake-tests.html
>>
>> After putting about 20,000 miles on them, I when through a similar
> series
>> of tests, the results of which I no longer know where to find. But I do
>> remember the bottom lines: They were COMPLETELY worn out at that mileage
>> (which is the limit of the EBC warranty). The friction material was
>> breaking away from the steel pads. And the braking results were back
> down
>> by the 5% or so advantage they had over the Performance Frictions they
>> replaced.
>>
>> I put new Performance Frictions D052's back on my GMC (with their
> lifetime
>> warranty) and have never looked back.
>>
>> Applied GMC sells the Yellow EBC's and, probably, the Performance
> Frictions
>> (O'Reilly's definitely does). I suspect the price is about the same.
> Your
>> choice; I've made mine.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 8:42 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know off hand what the EBC number is for the Yellowstuff pads or
> is
>>> their something better? If so make and part # please.....thanks
>>> --
>>> Rich Mondor,
>>>
>>> Brockville, ON
>>>
>>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355063 is a reply to message #355054] |
Sat, 23 May 2020 22:29 |
James Hupy
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Let me see what I can find.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, May 23, 2020, 8:17 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:
> Hi, Jim.
>
> Can you suggest brands and part numbers for those pads and shoes you
> recommend, please?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
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> *From:* Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
> via Gmclist
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2020 22:18
> *To:* gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> *Cc:* James Hupy
> *Subject:* Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you
> have it?
>
> Anything that improves the braking effort very much over stock, has to come
> at a price. Usually, faster pad wear. I personally use ONLY RIVETED Semi
> metallic linings. There are several brands out there that work well. They
> do make more noise, but work well in any weather. Anything you use will
> have good points as well as bad points.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem,, Oregon
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355064 is a reply to message #355062] |
Sat, 23 May 2020 22:17 |
k2gkk
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Hi, Jim.
Can you suggest brands and part numbers for those pads and shoes you recommend, please?
D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
"The Money Pit"
TZE166V101966
'76 ex-Palm Beach
k2gkk + hotmail dot com
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it?
Anything that improves the braking effort very much over stock, has to come
at a price. Usually, faster pad wear. I personally use ONLY RIVETED Semi
metallic linings. There are several brands out there that work well. They
do make more noise, but work well in any weather. Anything you use will
have good points as well as bad points.
Jim Hupy
Salem,, Oregon
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355066 is a reply to message #355059] |
Sun, 24 May 2020 05:53 |
6cuda6
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Hi Ken,
I have raced on EBC's, Ferodo, PF and a few other brake pads on my motorcycles [when i was doing it professionally a few years back] and agree with wear characteristics as stated.
The Performance Friction number you state here, is that for stock calipers or 80mm calipers?
Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 23 May 2020 22:08When the EBC yellow pads first showed up, I, with some helpers, ran tests
to see if they were really any good:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4642-calibrated-brake-tests.html
After putting about 20,000 miles on them, I when through a similar series
of tests, the results of which I no longer know where to find. But I do
remember the bottom lines: They were COMPLETELY worn out at that mileage
(which is the limit of the EBC warranty). The friction material was
breaking away from the steel pads. And the braking results were back down
by the 5% or so advantage they had over the Performance Frictions they
replaced.
I put new Performance Frictions D052's back on my GMC (with their lifetime
warranty) and have never looked back.
Applied GMC sells the Yellow EBC's and, probably, the Performance Frictions
(O'Reilly's definitely does). I suspect the price is about the same. Your
choice; I've made mine.
Ken H.
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 8:42 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Anyone know off hand what the EBC number is for the Yellowstuff pads or is
> their something better? If so make and part # please.....thanks
> --
> Rich Mondor,
>
> Brockville, ON
>
> 77 Hughes 2600
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355067 is a reply to message #355060] |
Sun, 24 May 2020 06:13 |
6cuda6
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Great test video.... NRS doesnt list a brake pads for older vehicles but i have inquired with them to see what, if anything can be done.
Dolph Santorine wrote on Sat, 23 May 2020 22:49Ken:
I’ve been a fan of Performance Friction and Hawk brake pads for a while.
There’s a newcomer on the scene, and it’s NRS
Home - NRS Brakes
We have a set on my car and my wife’s car and are quite pleased. They address the rust jacking and the adhesion directly.
There’s also this (and I don’t remember if it’s been here or in one of the other communities I follow).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8O2tJOGLE
I’ve had the same experience you have with EBC, and it’s why I avoid them.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress”
|[ ]~~~[][ ][] \
"--OO--[]---O-"
> On May 23, 2020, at 10:08 PM, Ken Henderson via Gmclist wrote:
>
> When the EBC yellow pads first showed up, I, with some helpers, ran tests
> to see if they were really any good:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4642-calibrated-brake-tests.html
>
> After putting about 20,000 miles on them, I when through a similar series
> of tests, the results of which I no longer know where to find. But I do
> remember the bottom lines: They were COMPLETELY worn out at that mileage
> (which is the limit of the EBC warranty). The friction material was
> breaking away from the steel pads. And the braking results were back down
> by the 5% or so advantage they had over the Performance Frictions they
> replaced.
>
> I put new Performance Frictions D052's back on my GMC (with their lifetime
> warranty) and have never looked back.
>
> Applied GMC sells the Yellow EBC's and, probably, the Performance Frictions
> (O'Reilly's definitely does). I suspect the price is about the same. Your
> choice; I've made mine.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 8:42 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know off hand what the EBC number is for the Yellowstuff pads or is
>> their something better? If so make and part # please.....thanks
>> --
>> Rich Mondor,
>>
>> Brockville, ON
>>
>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355068 is a reply to message #355066] |
Sun, 24 May 2020 07:05 |
Ken Henderson
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The PF D052, which may have changed by now, fit both the 80mm and OEM
calipers. Best you visit here for current numbers for the calipers you're
using:
https://pfcbrakes.com/parts-finder
Ken H.
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:53 AM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
> I have raced on EBC's, Ferodo, PF and a few other brake pads on my
> motorcycles [when i was doing it professionally a few years back] and agree
> with
> wear characteristics as stated.
>
> The Performance Friction number you state here, is that for stock calipers
> or 80mm calipers?
>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 23 May 2020 22:08
>> When the EBC yellow pads first showed up, I, with some helpers, ran tests
>> to see if they were really any good:
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4642-calibrated-brake-tests.html
>>
>> After putting about 20,000 miles on them, I when through a similar
> series
>> of tests, the results of which I no longer know where to find. But I do
>> remember the bottom lines: They were COMPLETELY worn out at that mileage
>> (which is the limit of the EBC warranty). The friction material was
>> breaking away from the steel pads. And the braking results were back
> down
>> by the 5% or so advantage they had over the Performance Frictions they
>> replaced.
>>
>> I put new Performance Frictions D052's back on my GMC (with their
> lifetime
>> warranty) and have never looked back.
>>
>> Applied GMC sells the Yellow EBC's and, probably, the Performance
> Frictions
>> (O'Reilly's definitely does). I suspect the price is about the same.
> Your
>> choice; I've made mine.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 8:42 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know off hand what the EBC number is for the Yellowstuff pads
> or is
>>> their something better? If so make and part # please.....thanks
>>> --
>>> Rich Mondor,
>>>
>>> Brockville, ON
>>>
>>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
> --
> Rich Mondor,
>
> Brockville, ON
>
> 77 Hughes 2600
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76 X-Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] EBC Yellowstuff brake pads part number...do you have it? [message #355080 is a reply to message #355068] |
Sun, 24 May 2020 14:38 |
James Hupy
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This is directed mostly at Mac.
Master cylinder. Brake Best Select
NMC 11319
RAYBESTOS PADS PGD 52M
BOSCH DISC PADS (yellow) Quiet Cast
BP 370
CENTRIC CALIPERS 141.66019 and 141.66020 ( right and left)
RAYBESTOS REAR SHOES (riveted)
462PG
This should get you started.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 5:07 AM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> The PF D052, which may have changed by now, fit both the 80mm and OEM
> calipers. Best you visit here for current numbers for the calipers you're
> using:
> https://pfcbrakes.com/parts-finder
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:53 AM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken,
>> I have raced on EBC's, Ferodo, PF and a few other brake pads on my
>> motorcycles [when i was doing it professionally a few years back] and
> agree
>> with
>> wear characteristics as stated.
>>
>> The Performance Friction number you state here, is that for stock
> calipers
>> or 80mm calipers?
>>
>> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 23 May 2020 22:08
>>> When the EBC yellow pads first showed up, I, with some helpers, ran
> tests
>>> to see if they were really any good:
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4642-calibrated-brake-tests.html
>>>
>>> After putting about 20,000 miles on them, I when through a similar
>> series
>>> of tests, the results of which I no longer know where to find. But I
> do
>>> remember the bottom lines: They were COMPLETELY worn out at that
> mileage
>>> (which is the limit of the EBC warranty). The friction material was
>>> breaking away from the steel pads. And the braking results were back
>> down
>>> by the 5% or so advantage they had over the Performance Frictions they
>>> replaced.
>>>
>>> I put new Performance Frictions D052's back on my GMC (with their
>> lifetime
>>> warranty) and have never looked back.
>>>
>>> Applied GMC sells the Yellow EBC's and, probably, the Performance
>> Frictions
>>> (O'Reilly's definitely does). I suspect the price is about the same.
>> Your
>>> choice; I've made mine.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 8:42 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone know off hand what the EBC number is for the Yellowstuff pads
>> or is
>>>> their something better? If so make and part # please.....thanks
>>>> --
>>>> Rich Mondor,
>>>>
>>>> Brockville, ON
>>>>
>>>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>
>> --
>> Rich Mondor,
>>
>> Brockville, ON
>>
>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>
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