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| Re: Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353609 is a reply to message #353600] |
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Richard RV
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Shawn,
That cabinet went in as an already assembled module so it's not easy to dismantle. Probably not worth the time, effort and risk of depleting your inventory of cuss words to remove the module.
Post a picture of the damage so we can see what's what.
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: [GMCnet] Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353622 is a reply to message #353615] |
Thu, 09 April 2020 10:28 |
Ken Henderson
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Shawn,
Ditto Bruce's comments. AND, Thanks for including a link to the Electric
Wipers web site under my name. :-)
Ken H.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:20 AM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist <
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> Shawn,
> I had never seen your website before. Very nice, great collection of
> articles and photos.
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> http://www.gmcmotorhomeworld.com
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> Thanks!
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> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
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| Re: [GMCnet] Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353691 is a reply to message #353622] |
Sat, 11 April 2020 05:32 |
Rich Kinas
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Well taking that panel apart can be done, but you wont be left with
anything...The original press board just crumbled apart in my hands when I
first went at it. However I was on the ropes anyway and so am rebuilding
the entire interior, getting rid of all the press board.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:29 AM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Shawn,
>
> Ditto Bruce's comments. AND, Thanks for including a link to the Electric
> Wipers web site under my name. :-)
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:20 AM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Shawn,
>> I had never seen your website before. Very nice, great collection of
>> articles and photos.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmotorhomeworld.com
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>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Hislop
>> ON Canada
>> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
>> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353705 is a reply to message #353691] |
Sat, 11 April 2020 13:09 |
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Richard RV
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Rich,
Not all GMCs have cabinets turning to dust, but your point is taken. That's why I was asking for pictures of the damage. Unless there's severe damage, and even sometimes then, a patch can be cut from some other place that's not so readily visible (inside of a cabinet door) and veneered into a recessed area where the damage was. Or, taking a page from furniture repair, hot wax and different colored stains to replicate the grain makes such repairs almost totally invisible.
Without seeing the damage it's tough to make a recommendation. Almost. Recommendation - don't take apart the cabinet!
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353756 is a reply to message #353752] |
Mon, 13 April 2020 07:57 |
lqqkatjon
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that is a tough wall to deal with..... I don't think it comes out very easily, and probably not in one piece. I don't think you can't really get at it from the backside, even with fridge removed.
I have had luck rebuilding some cabinetry using epoxy, west systems to be specific. I am not sure how one would go about that wall, and the process can be messy, but the epoxy will penetrate and hold what is left of the particle board edge. I did all my stuff on cabinets that were out of the coach, and I had gravity on my side. it was all stuff that was hidden one epoxied up.
Dale Ropp, is the epoxy expert, you might find some of his stuff on GMCMI, as he has done some seminars at the conventions.
if you can get that edge from getting worse, I would think you could find a decent trim piece to go over it that people might never know there is a problem.
The lower side maybe some sort of cabinet could be added.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353765 is a reply to message #353600] |
Mon, 13 April 2020 11:19 |
Scott Nutter
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Could you trim out the sides with some small bendable molding? At least that could be a temporary fix.
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353767 is a reply to message #353752] |
Mon, 13 April 2020 12:07 |
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Richard RV
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Shawn,
What Larry said. I'd either bond thin plywood or cover the whole panel with plastic laminate. There are hundreds of wood grained plastic laminates on the market and I'm sure you could find a good match.
The water damage might have messed up the pressboard panel more than you think - that stuff wicks water like a sponge. The wood grained vinyl might be holding things together. So it's probably a good idea to investigate the extent of the water damage before covering things up.
Thanks for posting the picture.
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: Can this be taken apart for replacement? [message #353778 is a reply to message #353600] |
Mon, 13 April 2020 17:20 |
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Matt Colie
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Shawn,
That damaged section is not of any structural importance.
If I were to write a quote to repair that, I would start with a heat gun and gently heat the vinyl covering. It should come loose and may not crack to much. If you can get it out of the way without breaking it, you have scored a big win. The idea will be to put a piece of wood back in there with a surface that is about where that was. Nothing else really maters.
There is no telling how much of the particle board is shot. When you get the vinyl clear, try drill a few small holes. You will instantly be able to tell what is still sound. I don't know what you have for tools, but a reciprocating saw of any type will do. Decide how much you need to take out and drill the start and end holes and then cut it away. Save that piece as a template. Find some plywood the same thickness if you can. Given that location, it should be exterior grade plywood because you don't want it to come apart as when it gets wet. If the replacement plug is thinner, you can shim between the joiner and it to get the surface where it wants to be.
So cut the plug, and then mark up an cut a joiner or fishplate (two words for the same thing). This is the piece that you cut with the same profile as the plug but about 1" each way from the cut. This joiner will go inside. It does not have to be a single piece. If there is an inside feature in the way, gaps in the joiner are allowed.
Collect a small handful of flat head wood screws and the screw-mate for them. A screw-mate is a "drill" that is a thread clearance, a body clearance and a countersink all in one. It will go best if you clamp the joiner into place before you start drilling for the screws. A screw every 2 or 3" should be real good. Run the screws in and do the same for the plug. You can remove the plug now and clean up the dust from the operation and paint the edge of the plug that will be exposed.
Want it bullet-proof? Smear glue on the joiner and then screw it and the plug in. This will unfortunately also make any future repair more difficult.
When you have a plug in place, get some 3M 77. Cover other areas to prevent collateral damage and glue the vinyl back down.
Get a little bit of brown paint to paint the exposed edge of the plug if you did not do that while it was easy.
I could show you where I did this kind of a repair to my coach, but that was lots of years ago and I will have to remember where it is. It is not easy to see.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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