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George Beckman is currently offline  George Beckman   United States
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Manny of Manny's Transmissions helped me install my new S&J Engine. We replaced every inch of engine lube oil flow. I put in a 16 pass Derale 13700 Electra-Cool Remote Cooler to handle lube oil cooling. Because Manny is an ace with steel tubing, the lines are all new steel. I also added, at Matt Colie's suggestion, a Derale Oil Control Thermostat P/N - 15719, which recirculates engine oil until it reaches 180*. The engine started instantly thanks to EBL EFI and I ran it for 29 minutes, before the first shutdown.

The good news is that the engine sounds good and ran 170 miles to home. No oil, water, gas, or exhaust leaks.

We exhibited safe practices and believe no Corona-19 germs were allowed to pass to us or to others.

Ruth and I are about to "attend" our church's virtual service, worshiping together from afar.

Be Safe.

Best Wishes,

George


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George
Re: New S&J Engine [message #353252 is a reply to message #353250] Sun, 29 March 2020 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Super!


How did the tune on the ebl work on the S&J? Did you get standard cam? 403 right?


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353253 is a reply to message #353252] Sun, 29 March 2020 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon, if you are speaking to me, the S & J is a 455. Built to my motorhome
specs. About the 10th one so far. The coach it is going into is a 77
Royale.
It has a Howell/EBL tuned for the hot rod engine that I personally
built for a previous owner. It failed by overheating on it's maiden voyage.
Haven't got that engine out yet. Setting up the gantry today. Will know
what happened in a few days.
I will re-tune the EBL to known good bin file when I get to that
point.
If you weren't referring to me, sorry for butting in to your thread.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

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> How did the tune on the ebl work on the S&J? Did you get standard cam?
> 403 right?
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Re: New S&J Engine [message #353270 is a reply to message #353250] Sun, 29 March 2020 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim- question was for george. Looks like he has a fresh engine.

But your info is good too.

When I went to ebl on my s&j. (Had like 800 miles with a carb). I had some tuning issues that Randy was super and helped me with adjusting the BIN. But I am still not confident it is still 100%. I had issues at colder temps. Easily solved by selecting a different BIN in. The bank.

Tough to really tune it perfect as the time to tune it when the stars and moons aline usually does not match up.

Just hoping I am not tuning a more serious engine issue away. (Unknown vacuum leak).

I just pulled my gmc out of storage about 5 miles away and it fired up and ran fine at 40 degrees outside. At one time it would not leave an intersection at that scenario without switching tune bank to my "hot rod" BIN that hits aFr around 10 at PE.

So maybe it is learning itself all better. (I have done many VE learns last year).


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Re: New S&J Engine [message #353271 is a reply to message #353270] Sun, 29 March 2020 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I should of clarified. - last year it would not leave an intersection when it was cold out(once around 35 degrees).

This trip back from storage it ran great and it was running on my most recent tuned and VE learned BIN.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: New S&J Engine [message #353275 is a reply to message #353252] Sun, 29 March 2020 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lqqkatjon wrote on Sun, 29 March 2020 08:55
Super!


How did the tune on the ebl work on the S&J? Did you get standard cam? 403 right?


EBL seemed to be spot on with BLMs at about 124. The engine is a 455. I got a standard cam. I know nothing but see curves down to 1700. We have a torque converter that doesn't get as tight (as it will get) until at about 2200 RPM. Low torque is not something I think is worthwhile. I wanted pretty much what the GM engineers thought would be prudent. Running an engine at 2200 because it can, builds heat fast. Shift down and let her run easy.


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
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George
Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353293 is a reply to message #353253] Sun, 29 March 2020 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Sun, 29 March 2020 11:15
Jon, if you are speaking to me, the S & J is a 455. Built to my motorhome
specs. About the 10th one so far. The coach it is going into is a 77
Royale.
It has a Howell/EBL tuned for the hot rod engine that I personally
built for a previous owner. It failed by overheating on it's maiden voyage.
Haven't got that engine out yet. Setting up the gantry today. Will know
what happened in a few days.
I will re-tune the EBL to known good bin file when I get to that
point.
If you weren't referring to me, sorry for butting in to your thread.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
Good luck, George...


Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353296 is a reply to message #353271] Sun, 29 March 2020 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:09 PM Jon Roche via Gmclist <
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> I should of clarified. - last year it would not leave an intersection when
> it was cold out(once around 35 degrees).
>
> This trip back from storage it ran great and it was running on my most
> recent tuned and VE learned BIN.
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> John, it was a choke that needed attention, not the engine.
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Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353312 is a reply to message #353296] Mon, 30 March 2020 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> John, it was a choke that needed attention, not the engine.
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Jim- you must of mis-read my post. I am thinking I have no choke on my EBL efi system.




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Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353323 is a reply to message #353312] Mon, 30 March 2020 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John
I have no choke but my EBL is set up to give me a bit richer mixture until the engines warms. I have driven it a lot in cold weather and have had no “choke” problems..

Someone should be able to give you the settings. Right now I have a brace on my right arm for 5 weeks due to shoulder (rotator cuff) surgery so I can’t check my settings right now.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick CO

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Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353324 is a reply to message #353312] Mon, 30 March 2020 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lqqkatjon wrote on Mon, 30 March 2020 09:49

Jim- you must of mis-read my post. I am thinking I have no choke on my EBL efi system.
No choke, but the IAC control does the job. I was chasing an erratic warm-up condition and finally figured out that the ECM needs battery power 24/7. I was using ignition power for all of the 12V inputs, which did not allow the IAC to reset go the the park position after shutting down, hence couldn't move to the correct ignition on position the next time. Once the ECM knew where the IAC was sitting, it was dead solid - starts at abt 900 rpm and slowly ramps down as coolant temperature rises.

I found that WinLogView was a big help in sussing out what was going on, since it can give you a multi-trace view of some or all of the information that the WUD collects during a run.

I'll post some info on the GMCMH-EFI page about how to do that (and save 1000 words by showing a picture).


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Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353327 is a reply to message #353323] Mon, 30 March 2020 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your temp sensor or other is not working.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:26 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
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> John
> I have no choke but my EBL is set up to give me a bit richer mixture until
> the engines warms. I have driven it a lot in cold weather and have had no
> “choke” problems..
>
> Someone should be able to give you the settings. Right now I have a brace
> on my right arm for 5 weeks due to shoulder (rotator cuff) surgery so I
> can’t check my settings right now.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick CO
>
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jon Roche via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Jim- you must of mis-read my post. I am thinking I have no choke on
> my EBL efi system.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353332 is a reply to message #353327] Mon, 30 March 2020 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let's go back. WAAAYYY back to the installation of the Holley Throttle
body. When you installed the adapter plate and gaskets supplied with the
kit, did you follow the instructions to the letter? If you did not get that
gasket corner sealed up correctly with the correct sealant, then you are
like a dog chasing it's tail. You will never catch up.
After you insure that is all correct, you need to do one more thing.
Never mind what the "net wags" have to say about this, just humor me. Use
an OLD SCHOOL ribbon feeler gage .007" thick and set the throttle plates so
that you have a firm tug to the ribbon gage with the idle stop screw. Then,
leave the damn thing alone, and let the computer learn to settle the idle
speed by its IAC.
Goes without saying that your O2 sensor needs to be good along with
your coolant temp sensor. You should go into "closed loop" at 173° coolant
temp or above.
Then, if your engine still stumbles on low speed acceleration, you
are too lean. Your AFR should be 12.0 -1 or richer. If it is not, humor an
old man, and make it so.
Then, see where you are.
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 8:48 AM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
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> Your temp sensor or other is not working.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:26 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> John
>> I have no choke but my EBL is set up to give me a bit richer mixture
> until
>> the engines warms. I have driven it a lot in cold weather and have had
> no
>> “choke” problems..
>>
>> Someone should be able to give you the settings. Right now I have a
> brace
>> on my right arm for 5 weeks due to shoulder (rotator cuff) surgery so I
>> can’t check my settings right now.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick CO
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jon Roche via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
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>>> Jim- you must of mis-read my post. I am thinking I have no choke on
>> my EBL efi system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: New S&J Engine [message #353334 is a reply to message #353250] Mon, 30 March 2020 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Randy has helped me work on this situation, and plenty of winlog files sent out, and 6-9 BIN files he has sent me as we "tweaked and tuned it".

the first drive and the first week I had the EBL/EFI running, was when I first had the issue. could not make it around the block. After 1 winlog file sent to Randy, and him returning a new BIN file an hour later, pretty much solved the issue. The engine takes off like a drag car, but the AFR's are a little rich. I keep that on Bank1, and I consider that my "emergency BIN" Since then Randy has been working with me to dial it in and has the coach running very well and we have exchanged winlog files and BIN's many times.

about a month after having the EBL in last spring, we had a miserable cold spring Rally. Sunday morning I had the issue when I went to leave. the coach fired right up, all seemed go, driving fine through the campground that is maybe a 1/4 mile drive through the campground and out to the exit.I went to gas it to get out on the highway from the exit of the campground, and the engine died almost instantly when I hit the gas. fired right up, hit throttle and died. 4-5 times. Went to the ebl tablet, but my kids stole the tablet charger over the weekend and the tablet was dead. tried a few more times and somehow messing with the gas, and timing my launch, it kicked in and took off and away I went and got to a safe spot to pull over. in that parking lot, Same deal, hit gas and it croaked. Temp outside was like 33. got tablet to bootup, switched to the "emergency BIN" and away I went like nothing was wrong. next day the weather was warm and never had an issue all summer.

I ran all last summer/fall with no issues. I have done IAC setting checks multiple times, and even replaced it at first. I have taken propane torch and tried to check for vacuum leaks around the base. That was when I first installed the EBL- worried I had some issue... never found a vacuum leak and the IAC seems to be doing what it needs to do. Never had a inconsitant idle rpm, or any issues on idle. Just leaned out on quick when you 1st hit the throttle.

Keep in mind- Coach runs steller at most all situations, and I have about 3000+ miles on the ebl system now.



it was always at lest 50 degrees or better out when I had my coach out last year, and fast forward to last wednesday, I jumped in, fired it up, and drove it out of storage and home and it was in the mid 30's. I did not really pay much attention to my EBL, but I had the tablet running, and on the way home(about 5 miles), I did notice I was on bank 0- 455. the original BIN that came with my EBL that originally could not drive around the block with.


it is always tough being the working guy to find time to sit and do some more troubleshooting, as the exact same scenario normally never pans out. I supposed I could get up at 2am when it is in the 30's and try to take the coach out to see what it does.




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Re: New S&J Engine [message #353336 is a reply to message #353250] Mon, 30 March 2020 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's funny... The same thing happened to me. Started at the campground and idled OK, drove to the dumpsters. After starting up again and going towards the campground exit - up a small grade - it died. Managed to start it again and it never repeated. It was after that that I found my IAC was not resetting after turning off the ignition - due to my wiring error.

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Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353338 is a reply to message #353334] Mon, 30 March 2020 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon, Randy is also my GO TO guy. He has been at my place for several days,
and we sorted out the engine (extensively modified) in the coach I am
presently working on.
Through no fault of the EBL/HOWELL setup, when the owner came and
picked up the coach with a brand new extensively modified engine, he left
for home, got about 30 miles up the Interstate, and it severely overheated.
He pulled over, left it on the freeway, and it was towed back to my shop.
It has sat there until now, When I went to start it to drive it into my
shop, no joy. So I used all 6 of my tricks on it, sorted out the electrical
and pinned it down to no fuel. Purged the system of old gas, replaced it
with fresh (no alcohol) fuel, flushed out the lines and filters, blew out
the throttle body, hooked up fuel lines, turned the key to start, and it
started almost instantly.
So, now, it comes out, and a fresh S & J 455 motorhome special is
going in to replace my hot rod engine. Then, it is going to be tail lights
down the road, to a different owner, but that is a long, off subject, story
for another thread.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

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> Randy has helped me work on this situation, and plenty of winlog files
> sent out, and 6-9 BIN files he has sent me as we "tweaked and tuned it".
>
> the first drive and the first week I had the EBL/EFI running, was when I
> first had the issue. could not make it around the block. After 1 winlog
> file sent to Randy, and him returning a new BIN file an hour later, pretty
> much solved the issue. The engine takes off like a drag car, but the AFR's
> are a little rich. I keep that on Bank1, and I consider that my
> "emergency BIN" Since then Randy has been working with me to dial it in
> and has
> the coach running very well and we have exchanged winlog files and BIN's
> many times.
>
> about a month after having the EBL in last spring, we had a miserable cold
> spring Rally. Sunday morning I had the issue when I went to leave. the
> coach fired right up, all seemed go, driving fine through the campground
> that is maybe a 1/4 mile drive through the campground and out to the exit.I
> went to gas it to get out on the highway from the exit of the campground,
> and the engine died almost instantly when I hit the gas. fired right up,
> hit throttle and died. 4-5 times. Went to the ebl tablet, but my kids
> stole the tablet charger over the weekend and the tablet was dead. tried a
> few more times and somehow messing with the gas, and timing my launch, it
> kicked in and took off and away I went and got to a safe spot to pull over.
> in that parking lot, Same deal, hit gas and it croaked. Temp outside
> was like 33. got tablet to bootup, switched to the "emergency BIN" and
> away I went like nothing was wrong. next day the weather was warm and
> never had an issue all summer.
>
> I ran all last summer/fall with no issues. I have done IAC setting
> checks multiple times, and even replaced it at first. I have taken propane
> torch and tried to check for vacuum leaks around the base. That was when
> I first installed the EBL- worried I had some issue... never found a
> vacuum leak and the IAC seems to be doing what it needs to do. Never had
> a inconsitant idle rpm, or any issues on idle. Just leaned out on quick
> when you 1st hit the throttle.
>
> Keep in mind- Coach runs steller at most all situations, and I have about
> 3000+ miles on the ebl system now.
>
>
>
> it was always at lest 50 degrees or better out when I had my coach out
> last year, and fast forward to last wednesday, I jumped in, fired it up,
> and
> drove it out of storage and home and it was in the mid 30's. I did not
> really pay much attention to my EBL, but I had the tablet running, and on
> the
> way home(about 5 miles), I did notice I was on bank 0- 455. the original
> BIN that came with my EBL that originally could not drive around the block
> with.
>
>
> it is always tough being the working guy to find time to sit and do some
> more troubleshooting, as the exact same scenario normally never pans out.
> I supposed I could get up at 2am when it is in the 30's and try to take
> the coach out to see what it does.
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353344 is a reply to message #353293] Mon, 30 March 2020 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Beckman is currently offline  George Beckman   United States
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Thanks, Jim.
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Good luck, George...
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'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353346 is a reply to message #353293] Mon, 30 March 2020 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Bill Van Vlack wrote on Sun, 29 March 2020 23:04

Good luck, George...
Hard to tell where luck comes from these days.....


Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
Re: [GMCnet] New S&J Engine [message #353357 is a reply to message #353346] Mon, 30 March 2020 23:23 Go to previous message
George Beckman is currently offline  George Beckman   United States
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Bill Van Vlack wrote on Mon, 30 March 2020 13:55
Bill Van Vlack wrote on Sun, 29 March 2020 23:04

Good luck, George...
Hard to tell where luck comes from these days.....
True. Putting in a new engine is such a long job, so we hope for luck with the remanufactured engine.


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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