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Mon, 06 January 2020 07:30

6cuda6

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Ok guys lets talk tire recommendations.....i need new ones and would like your suggestions....now just you know i dispise buying tires as a mechanic nothing drives me crazier as they are all really the same and your paying more for the supposed waranty and branding than quality..

Rich Mondor, Brockville, ON 77 Hughes 2600

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Re: Tires [message #351263 is a reply to message #351259]

Mon, 06 January 2020 08:45

JohnL455

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I'm happy and trouble free with Cooper HT3. Made in USA.
Prior to that I had Michelin LTX M/S. Happy and trouble free for 12 years. I think made in Canada?
Neither required rebalancing ever. The Coopers on sale were about 1/2 the price. If buying again i'd "go with the Coopers. ". The BFG Commercial TA was also on the list but read some horror stories here so off the list. I will not even consider off shore tires for several reasons, one being worrying while driving. Not worth it.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

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Re: Tires [message #351264 is a reply to message #351259]

Mon, 06 January 2020 08:48

JohnL455

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I'm happy and trouble free with Cooper HT3. Made in USA.
Prior to that I had Michelin LTX M/S. Happy and trouble free for 12 years. I think made in Canada?
Neither required rebalancing ever. The Coopers on sale were about 1/2 the price. If buying again i'd "go with the Coopers. ". The BFG Commercial TA was also on the list but read some horror stories here so off the list. I will not even consider off shore tires for several reasons, one being worrying while driving. Not worth it.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351266 is a reply to message #351264]

Mon, 06 January 2020 09:44

jimk

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We encourage people to price the USA made ones like Firstone.
The prices are good and they wear well and have seen great results in the
last several yesrs.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:49 AM John R. Lebetski via Gmclist <
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> I'm happy and trouble free with Cooper HT3. Made in USA.
> Prior to that I had Michelin LTX M/S. Happy and trouble free for 12 years.
> I think made in Canada?
> Neither required rebalancing ever. The Coopers on sale were about 1/2 the
> price. If buying again i'd "go with the Coopers. ". The BFG Commercial TA
> was also on the list but read some horror stories here so off the list. I
> will not even consider off shore tires for several reasons, one being
> worrying while driving. Not worth it.
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351270 is a reply to message #351266]

Mon, 06 January 2020 11:26

Deb

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Toyo Open Country HT. That's what was on when I got her, and that's what I replaced them with. Ride well, good traction, fairly quiet. But, not the cheapest on the block either.

Deb McWade Logan Lake, BC, CAN GMC Alumnus It's Bigger on the Inside!

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351271 is a reply to message #351270]

Mon, 06 January 2020 12:08

jimk

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:27 AM Deb McWade via Gmclist <
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> Toyo Open Country HT. That's what was on when I got her, and that's what
> I replaced them with. Ride well, good traction, fairly quiet. But, not the
> cheapest on the block either.
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> Toyo is a good one that warranty comes from Japan.

The quality is there.
Always consider that you want a tire one can get warranty when your on
the road. That’s why I like Firestone as most tire shops can warranty them.

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351272 is a reply to message #351270]

Mon, 06 January 2020 12:11

Carl S.

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I am running Cooper HT-3 (225/70R16 LR-E) on the four rears and Cooper AT-3 (245/70R16 LR-E) on the front.

The four rears are about four and a half years old with about 18- 20,000 miles on them. Tread looks like new, but the sidewalls are starting to develop a few small cracks here and there, which I consider normal for Arizona.

The coach had Kumhos on it when I got it, two of them separated within 3 - 4 years, same with the subsequent BFG Commercial TAs.

I don't think I will take a chance on the Coopers much after five years.

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member

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Re: Tires [message #351276 is a reply to message #351259]

Mon, 06 January 2020 12:52

Matt Colie

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6cuda6 wrote on Mon, 06 January 2020 08:30

Ok guys lets talk tire recommendations.....i need new ones and would like your suggestions....now just you know i dispise buying tires as a mechanic nothing drives me crazier as they are all really the same and your paying more for the supposed waranty and branding than quality..

Rich,

Kind of important here.....
Are you looking for 16s or 16.5??
I believe Firestone Transforce HT is the remaining 8.75*16.5 made in the US. There may be imports. (Not many will not be an "import" to you.)
The hard part I have is getting current tires so they don't age out before they wear out.

Matt

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Re: Tires [message #351279 is a reply to message #351259]

Mon, 06 January 2020 14:50

6cuda6

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This would be 225 75r16 for Alcoa fitment.

Rich Mondor, Brockville, ON 77 Hughes 2600

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351280 is a reply to message #351272]

Mon, 06 January 2020 14:51

6cuda6

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Why the different sizes front to back ....curious.

Carl S. wrote on Mon, 06 January 2020 13:11

I am running Cooper HT-3 (225/70R16 LR-E) on the four rears and Cooper AT-3 (245/70R16 LR-E) on the front.

The four rears are about four and a half years old with about 18- 20,000 miles on them. Tread looks like new, but the sidewalls are starting to develop a few small cracks here and there, which I consider normal for Arizona.

The coach had Kumhos on it when I got it, two of them separated within 3 - 4 years, same with the subsequent BFG Commercial TAs.

I don't think I will take a chance on the Coopers much after five years.

Rich Mondor, Brockville, ON 77 Hughes 2600

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351286 is a reply to message #351280]

Mon, 06 January 2020 16:25

Carl S.

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6cuda6 wrote on Mon, 06 January 2020 13:51

Why the different sizes front to back ....curious.

Carl S. wrote on Mon, 06 January 2020 13:11
I am running Cooper HT-3 (225/70R16 LR-E) on the four rears and Cooper AT-3 (245/70R16 LR-E) on the front.

The four rears are about four and a half years old with about 18- 20,000 miles on them. Tread looks like new, but the sidewalls are starting to develop a few small cracks here and there, which I consider normal for Arizona.

The coach had Kumhos on it when I got it, two of them separated within 3 - 4 years, same with the subsequent BFG Commercial TAs.

I don't think I will take a chance on the Coopers much after five years.

I have 16" X 8" Dodge Truck wheels on the front. I wanted a wider tire for improved traction on the dirt roads that I frequent.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5521-dodge-front-wheels-5-2f10.html

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351289 is a reply to message #351276]

Mon, 06 January 2020 16:55

Mike Kelley

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Matt and Rich:
I order mine (16” or 16.5” LT 225/R75/size Firestone Trans Force) from a tried and true local Firestone dealer (a week B 4 I want them installed) and specify they all have to be within 3 months of the date I am ordering.
Has worked for me every time!
If you don’t specify the dates, you get what is in the warehouse (not an option for me)!!!
Mike/The Corvair a holic

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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Matt Colie via Gmclist wrote:
>
> 6cuda6 wrote on Mon, 06 January 2020 08:30
>> Ok guys lets talk tire recommendations.....i need new ones and would like your suggestions....now just you know i dispise buying tires as a
>> mechanic nothing drives me crazier as they are all really the same and your paying more for the supposed waranty and branding than quality..
>
> Rich,
>
> Kind of important here.....
> Are you looking for 16s or 16.5??
> I believe Firestone Transforce HT is the remaining 8.75*16.5 made in the US. There may be imports. (Not many will not be an "import" to you.)
> The hard part I have is getting current tires so they don't age out before they wear out.
>
> Matt
> --
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Re: Tires [message #351296 is a reply to message #351259]

Mon, 06 January 2020 17:31

jhbridges

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Much like Mike, my guy goes to the warehouse and gets me them within 4 weeks or less date code. I've been dealing with the same folks for 35 years now, and that's worth more than the brand of tire. (When they over tightened a lug after rotating the tires on my Kia they sent their wrecker to get it, and replaced all the studs on that wheel and checked the others. "Whatta I owe ya, Joe?" "Nothing. Ready to go." As it turns out, they sell Coopers, my coach and the last one have HT 3s on. Work fine and age out afore they wear out.

johnny

Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

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Re: Tires [message #351308 is a reply to message #351259]

Tue, 07 January 2020 08:12

JohnL455

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The Firestones (Bridgestone of Japan) have proven a good design in 16 and 16.5 wheel sizes. I did not suggest them as I have not run them personally. I notice no one suggested Goodyear. There were issues in the past and my experience in general is poor wet performance.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

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Re: Tires [message #351327 is a reply to message #351259]

Wed, 08 January 2020 10:41

Larry

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FWIW, Info from Consumer reports.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7268-tires.html

Larry

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Menomonie, WI.

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351331 is a reply to message #351327]

Wed, 08 January 2020 13:09

powwerjon

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NOT surprisingly the more inexpensive tires are not listed. May have
tested very low (CR typically shows the rating of all items tested) or more
likely not tested at all. I trust CR when it comes to reviews of the
multitude of products that they test every year. I am Also a CR subscriber.

A test of usage by a few members of the GMC community does not constitute a
reliable test as compared to a CR test. But the choice is yours and you
pay your dollars and take your chances.

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States
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75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
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> FWIW, Info from Consumer reports.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7268-tires.html
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Re: Tires [message #351337 is a reply to message #351259]

Wed, 08 January 2020 16:09

Matt Colie

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As I looked at the published table, I was wondering why I had not come across the Firestone Destination tires....

So, I went to find out why. They are SUV or light pickup tires. There is nothing in that line like a Load Rage E (aka 10 ply rating).

We took Consumer reports for years. We trusted their tests and were seldom disappointed, but this time they may not have supplier information with any specific value to out case. The fact that many of us have had good luck with them does not mean that you can't age out a set of Kumho or Hankooks too. The big stopper there may be that many of the oweners here still wear 16.5.

Matt gazing out on the snow covered glacier (she will be in the barn soon)

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #351610 is a reply to message #351337]

Thu, 09 January 2020 09:51

jimk

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Testing few tires out of a batch leave something to question.
In my younger days I would read th CR re. automobile evaluation and saw lot
of nit picking that convinced me that I could not rely on them much.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 2:10 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
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> As I looked at the published table, I was wondering why I had not come
> across the Firestone Destination tires....
>
> So, I went to find out why. They are SUV or light pickup tires. There is
> nothing in that line like a Load Rage E (aka 10 ply rating).
>
> We took Consumer reports for years. We trusted their tests and were
> seldom disappointed, but this time they may not have supplier information
> with
> any specific value to out case. The fact that many of us have had good
> luck with them does not mean that you can't age out a set of Kumho or
> Hankooks
> too. The big stopper there may be that many of the oweners here still
> wear 16.5.
>
> Matt gazing out on the snow covered glacier (she will be in the barn soon)
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: Tires [message #351778 is a reply to message #351259]

Wed, 29 January 2020 07:42

jhbridges

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CR is useful to me in some items and not so much in others. I note in the tire ratings they balance between tread life and traction/noise/etc. To me, tread life is bupkis, mine will age out long before the tread is gone, so I so I discount it to a degree.

--johnny

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