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| Another GMC lost [message #350868] |
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SeanKidd
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A fellow GMCer on Instagram lost his coach to fire a few days ago. They were on a 5 month road trip. No details other than the fire occurred in the engine compartment, if I hear any more details I'll share. My thoughts go out to them.
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350870 is a reply to message #350868] |
Sun, 22 December 2019 22:23  |
jimk
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If you think that fire does not happen to you, then guess again.
People spend considerable amount on appearance and neglect fire
extinguishers.
Unless one is disabled in an accident, you can control a fire if equipped
properly.
We provide very few of the Fire Fight kits, but sell tons of
Appearance items.
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:59 PM Sean Kidd via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> A fellow GMCer on Instagram lost his coach to fire a few days ago. They
> were on a 5 month road trip. No details other than the fire occurred in the
> engine compartment, if I hear any more details I'll share. My thoughts go
> out to them.
> --
> Sean and Stephanie
> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
> Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD
> Honda 6500 inverter gen.
>
> Colonial Travelers
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350871 is a reply to message #350870] |
Sun, 22 December 2019 23:04 |
James Hupy
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My personal count within my own club is up to 6 coaches, and 4 tow trucks.
Don't think it can't happen to you. It can and does. One of the first
things I did after I bought my coach was to install an on-board fire
suppression system. Mine uses Halon gas. There are other versions that use
suppression products other than halon if you prefer that. Don't forget the
generator compartment, and the gas refrigerator also. There has been much,
much written about fire safety in these 40 year old relics, much of it
falls upon deaf ears. Please learn from the misfortunes of others.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 8:24 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> If you think that fire does not happen to you, then guess again.
> People spend considerable amount on appearance and neglect fire
> extinguishers.
> Unless one is disabled in an accident, you can control a fire if equipped
> properly.
> We provide very few of the Fire Fight kits, but sell tons of
> Appearance items.
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:59 PM Sean Kidd via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> A fellow GMCer on Instagram lost his coach to fire a few days ago. They
>> were on a 5 month road trip. No details other than the fire occurred in
> the
>> engine compartment, if I hear any more details I'll share. My thoughts
> go
>> out to them.
>> --
>> Sean and Stephanie
>> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
>> Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1
> LSD
>> Honda 6500 inverter gen.
>>
>> Colonial Travelers
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350872 is a reply to message #350871] |
Sun, 22 December 2019 23:56 |
jimk
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Jim, I had few call me tonight and they agreed with me that if you have
proper equipment on the coach, there is no reason for the coach to burn up.
Also we discussed the Independent Appraisal that one should have to avoid
the insurance people placing a low value and Salvage it.
I have seen insurance salvage coaches for few thousand damage.
I get calls from people after thefact and I have to turn them down on
Appraising tier coach.
I have few that received the Full appraised amount when burned or major
damage.
We charge $250 for the service.
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 9:01 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> My personal count within my own club is up to 6 coaches, and 4 tow trucks.
> Don't think it can't happen to you. It can and does. One of the first
> things I did after I bought my coach was to install an on-board fire
> suppression system. Mine uses Halon gas. There are other versions that use
> suppression products other than halon if you prefer that. Don't forget the
> generator compartment, and the gas refrigerator also. There has been much,
> much written about fire safety in these 40 year old relics, much of it
> falls upon deaf ears. Please learn from the misfortunes of others.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 8:24 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> If you think that fire does not happen to you, then guess again.
>> People spend considerable amount on appearance and neglect fire
>> extinguishers.
>> Unless one is disabled in an accident, you can control a fire if equipped
>> properly.
>> We provide very few of the Fire Fight kits, but sell tons of
>> Appearance items.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:59 PM Sean Kidd via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> A fellow GMCer on Instagram lost his coach to fire a few days ago.
> They
>>> were on a 5 month road trip. No details other than the fire occurred
> in
>> the
>>> engine compartment, if I hear any more details I'll share. My thoughts
>> go
>>> out to them.
>>> --
>>> Sean and Stephanie
>>> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
>>> Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1
>> LSD
>>> Honda 6500 inverter gen.
>>>
>>> Colonial Travelers
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmcrvparts.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350873 is a reply to message #350872] |
Mon, 23 December 2019 00:15 |
James Hupy
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The appraisal is definitely a very important piece of the puzzle, as is
agreed value insurance policies. The last Cascader coach that burned
earlier this year was owned by our webmaster. No one was around it when it
burned, so no exact cause has been determined yet. He has since purchased
another coach, and is in the process of upgrading it. He has it roadworthy
and was at our Christmas rally at LaConnor, Washington. Great to see him
still interested in these old coaches. But, he is out a bunch of $$$$ for
the replacement and upgrades.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 9:56 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Jim, I had few call me tonight and they agreed with me that if you have
> proper equipment on the coach, there is no reason for the coach to burn up.
> Also we discussed the Independent Appraisal that one should have to avoid
> the insurance people placing a low value and Salvage it.
> I have seen insurance salvage coaches for few thousand damage.
> I get calls from people after thefact and I have to turn them down on
> Appraising tier coach.
> I have few that received the Full appraised amount when burned or major
> damage.
> We charge $250 for the service.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 9:01 PM James Hupy via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> My personal count within my own club is up to 6 coaches, and 4 tow
> trucks.
>> Don't think it can't happen to you. It can and does. One of the first
>> things I did after I bought my coach was to install an on-board fire
>> suppression system. Mine uses Halon gas. There are other versions that
> use
>> suppression products other than halon if you prefer that. Don't forget
> the
>> generator compartment, and the gas refrigerator also. There has been
> much,
>> much written about fire safety in these 40 year old relics, much of it
>> falls upon deaf ears. Please learn from the misfortunes of others.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 8:24 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If you think that fire does not happen to you, then guess again.
>>> People spend considerable amount on appearance and neglect fire
>>> extinguishers.
>>> Unless one is disabled in an accident, you can control a fire if
> equipped
>>> properly.
>>> We provide very few of the Fire Fight kits, but sell tons of
>>> Appearance items.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:59 PM Sean Kidd via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A fellow GMCer on Instagram lost his coach to fire a few days ago.
>> They
>>>> were on a 5 month road trip. No details other than the fire occurred
>> in
>>> the
>>>> engine compartment, if I hear any more details I'll share. My
> thoughts
>>> go
>>>> out to them.
>>>> --
>>>> Sean and Stephanie
>>>> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
>>>> Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs,
> 3.70:1
>>> LSD
>>>> Honda 6500 inverter gen.
>>>>
>>>> Colonial Travelers
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Kanomata
>>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>>> http://www.appliedgmcrvparts.com
>>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: Another GMC lost [message #350875 is a reply to message #350868] |
Mon, 23 December 2019 07:30 |
jhbridges
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The handouts for the 30th Dixielander rally were FireFight hand held foam extinguishers. I also have one in the engine compartment. After fitting Halon in our studios and learning just enough about it to get in trouble, I'll skip it in an open area like the engine compartment. It's heavier than air and will fall out the bottom. And, while it will extinguish the fire while it's in the compartment, if the ignition source remains it will rekindle when the halon falls out of the compartment. The foam will stay put. As Hupy sez, you pays your money and you takes your choice.
We used Halon in our studios for the code required fire suppression, on discharge the A/C system quit and sealed the ducts and the halon got to about 5% I think - whatever Code required. We didn't want sprinklers over the(at the time damn expensive) equipment. Of course in time one of the numbnuts managed to set it off. Blew all of the tiles loose in the false ceiling 
FWIW halon is the antithesis of helium. Breathe a bit and your voice will go down about two octaves. It is however, interesting stuff - fire just doesn't work in it.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350886 is a reply to message #350875] |
Mon, 23 December 2019 16:27 |
jimk
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Fire Fight products are non corrosive to electrical connectors.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 5:30 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> The handouts for the 30th Dixielander rally were FireFight hand held foam
> extinguishers. I also have one in the engine compartment. After fitting
> Halon in our studios and learning just enough about it to get in trouble,
> I'll skip it in an open area like the engine compartment. It's heavier than
> air and will fall out the bottom. And, while it will extinguish the fire
> while it's in the compartment, if the ignition source remains it will
> rekindle when the halon falls out of the compartment. The foam will stay
> put. As Hupy sez, you pays your money and you takes your choice.
> We used Halon in our studios for the code required fire suppression, on
> discharge the A/C system quit and sealed the ducts and the halon got to
> about
> 5% I think - whatever Code required. We didn't want sprinklers over
> the(at the time damn expensive) equipment. Of course in time one of the
> numbnuts
> managed to set it off. Blew all of the tiles loose in the false ceiling
> :)
> SWIW halon is the antithesis of helium. Breathe a bit and your voice will
> go down about two octaves. It is however, interesting stuff - fire just
> doesn't work in it.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350888 is a reply to message #350870] |
Mon, 23 December 2019 19:11 |
Jeanette
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So true Jim. Belated Happy Birthday.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 22, 2019, at 10:24 PM, Jim Kanomata via Gmclist wrote:
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> If you think that fire does not happen to you, then guess again.
> People spend considerable amount on appearance and neglect fire
> extinguishers.
> Unless one is disabled in an accident, you can control a fire if equipped
> properly.
> We provide very few of the Fire Fight kits, but sell tons of
> Appearance items.
>
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:59 PM Sean Kidd via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> A fellow GMCer on Instagram lost his coach to fire a few days ago. They
>> were on a 5 month road trip. No details other than the fire occurred in the
>> engine compartment, if I hear any more details I'll share. My thoughts go
>> out to them.
>> --
>> Sean and Stephanie
>> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
>> Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD
>> Honda 6500 inverter gen.
>>
>> Colonial Travelers
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350901 is a reply to message #350888] |
Tue, 24 December 2019 00:29 |
jimk
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Thank You,
Looking forward to see you two in Louisiana
On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 5:11 PM Jeanette Hodges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> So true Jim. Belated Happy Birthday.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 22, 2019, at 10:24 PM, Jim Kanomata via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> If you think that fire does not happen to you, then guess again.
>> People spend considerable amount on appearance and neglect fire
>> extinguishers.
>> Unless one is disabled in an accident, you can control a fire if equipped
>> properly.
>> We provide very few of the Fire Fight kits, but sell tons of
>> Appearance items.
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:59 PM Sean Kidd via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> A fellow GMCer on Instagram lost his coach to fire a few days ago. They
>>> were on a 5 month road trip. No details other than the fire occurred
> in the
>>> engine compartment, if I hear any more details I'll share. My thoughts
> go
>>> out to them.
>>> --
>>> Sean and Stephanie
>>> 73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
>>> Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1
> LSD
>>> Honda 6500 inverter gen.
>>>
>>> Colonial Travelers
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmcrvparts.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: Another GMC lost [message #350921 is a reply to message #350868] |
Wed, 25 December 2019 10:02 |
jhbridges
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I strung the last > I hope < brake line yesterday. When Advance opens tomorrow I'll borrow their double flare kit and hook it up. This should take care of the mechanicals, if the dam' thing isn't ready to drive to Patterson, I'm gonna insure it heavily, remove all the extinguishers, and sell it to the Yankee inshoance peddlers.
--johnny
And, merry Christmas. I hope HoHo visited and left you happy.
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Another GMC lost [message #350944 is a reply to message #350921] |
Wed, 25 December 2019 14:24 |
jimk
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There are pre flared brake l
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:nes in various length . Just need a coupler.
Save time and frustration
> I strung the last > I hope < brake line yesterday. When Advance opens
> tomorrow I'll borrow their double flare kit and hook it up. This should
> take
> care of the mechanicals, if the dam' thing isn't ready to drive to
> Patterson, I'm gonna insure it heavily, remove all the extinguishers, and
> sell it
> to the Yankee inshoance peddlers.
>
> --johnny
>
> And, merry Christmas. I hope HoHo visited and left you happy.
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
>
>
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| Re: Another GMC lost [message #350951 is a reply to message #350868] |
Wed, 25 December 2019 16:33 |
jhbridges
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True there are preflared lines. In standard lengthsh. My transmission cooler is plumbed with them, including the union and the 6' preflared to get to the upper fitting on the radiator.
I'd rather the lines were one piece of tuning and I had the end of a 25' roll after healing the rear lines on my daughter's 99 Taurus. (Whose rear lines run right by the muffler above the wheel where road water can and does spray the hot line till it rusts through) so I ran a \piece of it across. Once it's connected and the system bled, I'll take the clips off the old one and tie the new one down with them.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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