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Wed, 23 October 2019 13:06  |
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Ken - and others
You probably know this but for those who may not. Most managers of
convention facilities used by GMCMI are very conscientious about fixing
things that don't work properly (they want return engagements!). 'Recommend
we advise Kim Weeks, GMCMI VP/convention manager as our single point of
contact for facility problems (even small ones.). The facility managers
usually respond promptly to her request to fix problems.
Fred
Fred Hudspeth
1978 Royale (TZE 368V101335) - Tyler, TX
1982 Airstream Excella (motorhome) - Cooper Landing, Alaska
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:42:26 -0400
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Did anyone experience electrical power problems at GMCMI Mansfield? I ask
because we were never able to operate our Dometic 2652 refrigerator on 120
vac while there -- the circuit breaker would trip periodically. The first
time it happened, the automatic transfer to LPG allowed the tank to be
emptied and the refrigerator to defrost. After several tripping incidents,
I got the tank refilled and ran from it until we got home.
Here, I tore into the refer expecting to find a flaw -- everything checked
out fine. And it's run on 120 vac without problem ever since. So, I can
only suspect voltage spikes, or something at Mansfield, the ONLY place the
refer has ever given trouble during the 9 years it's been installed.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349579 is a reply to message #349576] |
Wed, 23 October 2019 14:59  |
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It is possessed by the ghost of that Generac genset.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349586 is a reply to message #349576] |
Wed, 23 October 2019 19:28 |
Ken Henderson
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Fred,
Good general advice, but apparently not applicable in this case. Even
those plugged into the same power pedestal as we were report no
electrical anomalies at Mansfield. I have to assume the problem is in our
coach & will continue troubleshooting. But it's hard to find a problem
that no longer manifests itself. :-)
Ken H.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:07 PM Fred Hudspeth via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Ken - and others
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> You probably know this but for those who may not. Most managers of
> convention facilities used by GMCMI are very conscientious about fixing
> things that don't work properly (they want return engagements!). 'Recommend
> we advise Kim Weeks, GMCMI VP/convention manager as our single point of
> contact for facility problems (even small ones.). The facility managers
> usually respond promptly to her request to fix problems.
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> Fred
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> Fred Hudspeth
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> 1978 Royale (TZE 368V101335) - Tyler, TX
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> 1982 Airstream Excella (motorhome) - Cooper Landing, Alaska
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> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:42:26 -0400
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> Did anyone experience electrical power problems at GMCMI Mansfield? I ask
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> because we were never able to operate our Dometic 2652 refrigerator on 120
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> vac while there -- the circuit breaker would trip periodically. The first
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> time it happened, the automatic transfer to LPG allowed the tank to be
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> emptied and the refrigerator to defrost. After several tripping incidents,
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> I got the tank refilled and ran from it until we got home.
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> Here, I tore into the refer expecting to find a flaw -- everything checked
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> out fine. And it's run on 120 vac without problem ever since. So, I can
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> only suspect voltage spikes, or something at Mansfield, the ONLY place the
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> refer has ever given trouble during the 9 years it's been installed.
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> Ken H.
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> Americus, GA
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> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
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> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
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> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349587 is a reply to message #349586] |
Wed, 23 October 2019 19:57 |
Hal StClair
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Ken, just because you were on the same pedestal don't assume you both were receiving the same juice. Your receptacle or breaker would be unique to your coach even if the main or buss are common to the panel. It may indeed be a park issue, or not.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349588 is a reply to message #349587] |
Wed, 23 October 2019 20:13 |
Dolph Santorine
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This opens another question - how many use “Power Defender” pigtails (basically some MOV’s and some circuit to identify flipped hot and grounding problems)?
I did before I installed the Xantrex (which does most of it, and has smaller MOV’s internally installed on the input side).
Oh… MOV’s “Metal Oxide Varistors”, basically the operating part of the surge suppressor you likely have on the AC input to your desktop computer.
Basically, when it’s voltage is exceeded, it “clamps” and forces the circuit breaker ahead of it in the circuit to trip.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Hal StClair via Gmclist wrote:
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> Ken, just because you were on the same pedestal don't assume you both were receiving the same juice. Your receptacle or breaker would be unique to
> your coach even if the main or buss are common to the panel. It may indeed be a park issue, or not.
> Hal
> --
> 1977 Royale 101348,
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> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
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> 1975 Eleganza II, 101230,
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> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
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> Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349591 is a reply to message #349588] |
Wed, 23 October 2019 21:12 |
C Boyd
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Ken, when we arrived Cat plugged up our electrics while I did the water. I didn't notice till we got ready to leave that She left the 50-30 amp adapter and the 30-20 adapter in place from where we were plugged in at home before we left. No issues tho.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349599 is a reply to message #349588] |
Thu, 24 October 2019 06:29 |
Ken Henderson
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Sure, I carry one with me all the time -- helps keep the storage
compartment full. Can't remember the last time I plugged it in. Sure hope
it's helping protect the coach wiring.
Fact is, I've been fantastically lucky for the past 65 years of RVing, from
Key West to Fairbanks -- NEVER had a significant power problem. The worst
I've ever encountered is a lot of over-sensitive GFCI's. NOW everything
will get blown out/burned up!
Ken H.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:14 PM Dolph Santorine via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> This opens another question - how many use “Power Defender” pigtails
> (basically some MOV’s and some circuit to identify flipped hot and
> grounding problems)?
>
> I did before I installed the Xantrex (which does most of it, and has
> smaller MOV’s internally installed on the input side).
>
> Oh… MOV’s “Metal Oxide Varistors”, basically the operating part of the
> surge suppressor you likely have on the AC input to your desktop computer.
>
> Basically, when it’s voltage is exceeded, it “clamps” and forces the
> circuit breaker ahead of it in the circuit to trip.
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> Dolph
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> DE AD0LF
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> Wheeling, West Virginia
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> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
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> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
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>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Hal StClair via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Ken, just because you were on the same pedestal don't assume you both
> were receiving the same juice. Your receptacle or breaker would be unique to
>> your coach even if the main or buss are common to the panel. It may
> indeed be a park issue, or not.
>> Hal
>> --
>> 1977 Royale 101348,
>>
>> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
>>
>> 1975 Eleganza II, 101230,
>>
>> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
>>
>> Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349600 is a reply to message #349587] |
Thu, 24 October 2019 06:41 |
Ken Henderson
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Hal,
That's true, but the chances of it being a campground problem are certainly
reduced significantly by everyone else's good experiences. Since that
breaker HAS popped on occasion (when activating the 1-1/2 hp compressor
that shares it), I'm assuming it's MY problem.
Ken H.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 8:57 PM Hal StClair via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Ken, just because you were on the same pedestal don't assume you both were
> receiving the same juice. Your receptacle or breaker would be unique to
> your coach even if the main or buss are common to the panel. It may indeed
> be a park issue, or not.
> Hal
> --
> 1977 Royale 101348,
>
> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
>
> 1975 Eleganza II, 101230,
>
> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
>
> Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349602 is a reply to message #349600] |
Thu, 24 October 2019 07:46 |
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Water pressure regulator can replace the original so you need not worry
about leaving it.
We have them in stock, one of our top seller.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 4:43 AM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Hal,
>
> That's true, but the chances of it being a campground problem are certainly
> reduced significantly by everyone else's good experiences. Since that
> breaker HAS popped on occasion (when activating the 1-1/2 hp compressor
> that shares it), I'm assuming it's MY problem.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 8:57 PM Hal StClair via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Ken, just because you were on the same pedestal don't assume you both
> were
>> receiving the same juice. Your receptacle or breaker would be unique to
>> your coach even if the main or buss are common to the panel. It may
> indeed
>> be a park issue, or not.
>> Hal
>> --
>> 1977 Royale 101348,
>>
>> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
>>
>> 1975 Eleganza II, 101230,
>>
>> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
>>
>> Rio Rancho, NM
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349621 is a reply to message #349576] |
Thu, 24 October 2019 18:42 |
jhbridges
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Ken, just for the helluvit after your coach has been plugged in at home and the icebox running and whatever else load was on when it got goofy, take your IR thermometer and lookit the breaker box and all the connections you can get at reasonabvly.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349623 is a reply to message #349621] |
Thu, 24 October 2019 19:09 |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
I'll try to remember to do that, just for curiosity. But since
everything's working fine here, I don't expect to learn much.
Ken H.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 7:42 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Ken, just for the helluvit after your coach has been plugged in at home
> and the icebox running and whatever else load was on when it got goofy, take
> your IR thermometer and lookit the breaker box and all the connections you
> can get at reasonabvly.
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> --johnny
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> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349624 is a reply to message #349623] |
Thu, 24 October 2019 19:46 |
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I had my coach plugged in to a 20 amp receptacle via a 100 foot 12/3 heavy
duty extension cord most of this summer. Only draw was my Progressive
Dynamics PD 60 converter with smart module. And the Dometic 2 way fridge.
When prepping the coach for the 7 feathers rally, when I unplugged it, I
noted that the cord was warm where it plugged into the coach. I had some
difficulty unplugging the cord, and upon closer inspection, observed that
on the male plug on the coach, the prongs were black. So, I moved the coach
into the shop, and applied contact cleaner to the male plug. Let it sit for
a while, and not much change. So, I got out something stronger, battery
cable corrosion fighter. Paste stuff, apply with a brush, let it work for a
bit, then neutralize it with a mild acid solution, kinda smells like lemon
juice. That ate the corrosion. So, i looked at the cord, it was corroded as
well. Cut off the cord, and replaced it with a heavy duty female end. After
a day or two, the male cord is now cool. Aparrently, the corrosion has a
certain amount of resistance. Not a good thing in my book. So, keep a
watchful eye on those connections. Keep em clean, bright, and shiny, as
well as dry.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 5:11 PM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Johnny,
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> I'll try to remember to do that, just for curiosity. But since
> everything's working fine here, I don't expect to learn much.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 7:42 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Ken, just for the helluvit after your coach has been plugged in at home
>> and the icebox running and whatever else load was on when it got goofy,
> take
>> your IR thermometer and lookit the breaker box and all the connections
> you
>> can get at reasonabvly.
>>
>> --johnny
>>
>> --
>> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
>> in hell
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Q for Mansfield Attendees [message #349641 is a reply to message #349576] |
Fri, 25 October 2019 08:22 |
jhbridges
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Just replaced both ends of my hundred footer for the same problem. Fortunately the adapter cord cleaned up.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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