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Door curve [message #349270] Mon, 14 October 2019 14:52 Go to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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Ok, so just got back from fun camping trip and next one is 2 weeks away and we've decided to keep the camper at the house for 2 weeks instead of putting it in storage. This gives me project time. The entry door re-curving looks like next on the list. But I want to correct the middle age spread before I curve the door. Any good write up for that I should follow?

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Re: Door curve [message #349435 is a reply to message #349270] Sat, 19 October 2019 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you are addressing the guppy look that we get up by the drivers` and copilots seats, we had a seminar by a gentleman from Macon, GA who described a method. Others will remember better than me. But IIRC he said to attach an angle to the floor, cleaning the gap first, move the coach next to a wall, and jack the side in attaching with good body adhesive.

John Nicholls, 78 Royale w/455 Pensacola, FL
Re: [GMCnet] Door curve [message #349436 is a reply to message #349435] Sat, 19 October 2019 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you can place the floor brace accurately behind the side seam where the
aluminum joins the plastic, then both 3M adhesives along with flush head
fasteners that go through the floor brace are the preferred way to go. Be
sure that the wall you use for a push point is substantial. We don't want
to bring down the house. (Grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 2:11 PM John Nicholls via Gmclist <
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> If you are addressing the guppy look that we get up by the drivers` and
> copilots seats, we had a seminar by a gentleman from Macon, GA who
> described a
> method. Others will remember better than me. But IIRC he said to attach
> an angle to the floor, cleaning the gap first, move the coach next to a
> wall, and jack the side in attaching with good body adhesive.
> --
> John Nicholls,
> 78 Royale w/455
> Pensacola, FL
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door curve [message #349439 is a reply to message #349435] Sat, 19 October 2019 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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John,

I interpreted his question as about the more general spreading of the
mid-rif -- not the "chipmunk cheeks". I do remember someone posting how
they used a comealong between a beam across the doorway and another across
an opposite window opening. And how they tied the waistline longitudinal
member to the interior walls to try to inhibit re-settling. But I sure
can't find that album now. Surely someone remembers who did that?

As for the chipmunk cheeks, the recommended fix was by the deceased GMC guy
in Macon, GA, whose name I can't remember now. He suggested removing the
wheel well liner and the cockpit side panel. Clean the horizontal and
vertical surfaces under the floor along the outer skin and epoxying a
fiberglass angle along the interface of the two. Also remove the
rubber from the outer beltline trim and screw through it into the sidewall
structure on the '75 & later coaches with the stamped rather than tubular
structure. I'm reciting from memory of the demo he gave at one of our
rallies at Lake Park, GA; I've never done it myself.

Ken H.


On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 5:11 PM John Nicholls via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> If you are addressing the guppy look that we get up by the drivers` and
> copilots seats, we had a seminar by a gentleman from Macon, GA who
> described a
> method. Others will remember better than me. But IIRC he said to attach
> an angle to the floor, cleaning the gap first, move the coach next to a
> wall, and jack the side in attaching with good body adhesive.
> --
> John Nicholls,
> 78 Royale w/455
> Pensacola, FL
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door curve [message #349450 is a reply to message #349439] Sun, 20 October 2019 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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To All:

I believe that Emery Stora did an article on fixing the coach spread that sometimes occurs on our coach a number of years back. I have not been able to find it and maybe he will post here on where to locate it. If I am incorrect please forgive me.

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Oct 19, 2019, at 7:27 PM, Ken Henderson via Gmclist wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I interpreted his question as about the more general spreading of the
> mid-rif -- not the "chipmunk cheeks". I do remember someone posting how
> they used a comealong between a beam across the doorway and another across
> an opposite window opening. And how they tied the waistline longitudinal
> member to the interior walls to try to inhibit re-settling. But I sure
> can't find that album now. Surely someone remembers who did that?
>
> As for the chipmunk cheeks, the recommended fix was by the deceased GMC guy
> in Macon, GA, whose name I can't remember now. He suggested removing the
> wheel well liner and the cockpit side panel. Clean the horizontal and
> vertical surfaces under the floor along the outer skin and epoxying a
> fiberglass angle along the interface of the two. Also remove the
> rubber from the outer beltline trim and screw through it into the sidewall
> structure on the '75 & later coaches with the stamped rather than tubular
> structure. I'm reciting from memory of the demo he gave at one of our
> rallies at Lake Park, GA; I've never done it myself.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 5:11 PM John Nicholls via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> If you are addressing the guppy look that we get up by the drivers` and
>> copilots seats, we had a seminar by a gentleman from Macon, GA who
>> described a
>> method. Others will remember better than me. But IIRC he said to attach
>> an angle to the floor, cleaning the gap first, move the coach next to a
>> wall, and jack the side in attaching with good body adhesive.
>> --
>> John Nicholls,
>> 78 Royale w/455
>> Pensacola, FL
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door curve [message #349451 is a reply to message #349450] Sun, 20 October 2019 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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It is on Gene Fisher’s site. If you can’t find it let me know and I’ll send it to you

Emery Stora

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John Wright via Gmclist wrote:
>
> To All:
>
> I believe that Emery Stora did an article on fixing the coach spread that sometimes occurs on our coach a number of years back. I have not been able to find it and maybe he will post here on where to locate it. If I am incorrect please forgive me.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
> 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 7:27 PM, Ken Henderson via Gmclist wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I interpreted his question as about the more general spreading of the
>> mid-rif -- not the "chipmunk cheeks". I do remember someone posting how
>> they used a comealong between a beam across the doorway and another across
>> an opposite window opening. And how they tied the waistline longitudinal
>> member to the interior walls to try to inhibit re-settling. But I sure
>> can't find that album now. Surely someone remembers who did that?
>>
>> As for the chipmunk cheeks, the recommended fix was by the deceased GMC guy
>> in Macon, GA, whose name I can't remember now. He suggested removing the
>> wheel well liner and the cockpit side panel. Clean the horizontal and
>> vertical surfaces under the floor along the outer skin and epoxying a
>> fiberglass angle along the interface of the two. Also remove the
>> rubber from the outer beltline trim and screw through it into the sidewall
>> structure on the '75 & later coaches with the stamped rather than tubular
>> structure. I'm reciting from memory of the demo he gave at one of our
>> rallies at Lake Park, GA; I've never done it myself.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 5:11 PM John Nicholls via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are addressing the guppy look that we get up by the drivers` and
>>> copilots seats, we had a seminar by a gentleman from Macon, GA who
>>> described a
>>> method. Others will remember better than me. But IIRC he said to attach
>>> an angle to the floor, cleaning the gap first, move the coach next to a
>>> wall, and jack the side in attaching with good body adhesive.
>>> --
>>> John Nicholls,
>>> 78 Royale w/455
>>> Pensacola, FL
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door curve [message #349452 is a reply to message #349436] Sun, 20 October 2019 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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I coined the term “middle age spread” at that time.

Emery Stora

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>
> It is on Gene Fisher’s site. If you can’t find it let me know and I’ll send it to you
>
> Emery Stora
>
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John Wright via Gmclist wrote:
>>
>> To All:
>>
>> I believe that Emery Stora did an article on fixing the coach spread that sometimes occurs on our coach a number of years back. I have not been able to find it and maybe he will post here on where to locate it. If I am incorrect please forgive me.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>> GMCMI
>> 78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
>> 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 7:27 PM, Ken Henderson via Gmclist wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I interpreted his question as about the more general spreading of the
>>> mid-rif -- not the "chipmunk cheeks". I do remember someone posting how
>>> they used a comealong between a beam across the doorway and another across
>>> an opposite window opening. And how they tied the waistline longitudinal
>>> member to the interior walls to try to inhibit re-settling. But I sure
>>> can't find that album now. Surely someone remembers who did that?
>>>
>>> As for the chipmunk cheeks, the recommended fix was by the deceased GMC guy
>>> in Macon, GA, whose name I can't remember now. He suggested removing the
>>> wheel well liner and the cockpit side panel. Clean the horizontal and
>>> vertical surfaces under the floor along the outer skin and epoxying a
>>> fiberglass angle along the interface of the two. Also remove the
>>> rubber from the outer beltline trim and screw through it into the sidewall
>>> structure on the '75 & later coaches with the stamped rather than tubular
>>> structure. I'm reciting from memory of the demo he gave at one of our
>>> rallies at Lake Park, GA; I've never done it myself.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 5:11 PM John Nicholls via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you are addressing the guppy look that we get up by the drivers` and
>>>> copilots seats, we had a seminar by a gentleman from Macon, GA who
>>>> described a
>>>> method. Others will remember better than me. But IIRC he said to attach
>>>> an angle to the floor, cleaning the gap first, move the coach next to a
>>>> wall, and jack the side in attaching with good body adhesive.
>>>> --
>>>> John Nicholls,
>>>> 78 Royale w/455
>>>> Pensacola, FL
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: Door curve [message #349468 is a reply to message #349270] Sun, 20 October 2019 17:36 Go to previous message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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Sorry guys, just got back to this. He is the link to fix on middle age spread.

https://www.gmcmi.com/middle-age-spread-stora/

Tom


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