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CB Radios [message #346015] Sat, 03 August 2019 14:29 Go to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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The last time I tried to use the CB in my GMC, my son could hear me in the other vehicle, but I couldn't hear him. I was thinking about trying to repair it (maybe a loose wire to the speaker?), but now I might go another direction with it and I'm looking for recommendations on a compact CB, the kind with all the controls in the handset. That way I can install the compact head unit out of the way and get rid of the bulky PO built table in the middle of my dash that restricts airflow from the AC registers.

From what I can see on Amazon, Midland, Cobra, and Uniden all have units like this. The main complaint seems to be with the speaker, but I know some of you are radio guys and might have something to add to the reviews.

Thanks


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Re: [GMCnet] CB Radios [message #346017 is a reply to message #346015] Sat, 03 August 2019 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Any of them will work just fine, but I always mount a remote speaker near the driver.

It’s a bit of hearing loss and that the internal speakers tend to suck.

This lets my wife have a little bit of peace, and I can find out what going on without extending my granddaughters “vocabulary”


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> On Aug 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Carl Stouffer via Gmclist wrote:
>
> The last time I tried to use the CB in my GMC, my son could hear me in the other vehicle, but I couldn't hear him. I was thinking about trying to
> repair it (maybe a loose wire to the speaker?), but now I might go another direction with it and I'm looking for recommendations on a compact CB, the
> kind with all the controls in the handset. That way I can install the compact head unit out of the way and get rid of the bulky PO built table in the
> middle of my dash that restricts airflow from the AC registers.
>
> From what I can see on Amazon, Midland, Cobra, and Uniden all have units like this. The main complaint seems to be with the speaker, but I know some
> of you are radio guys and might have something to add to the reviews.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: CB Radios [message #346048 is a reply to message #346015] Sun, 04 August 2019 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have an all in one set now, but I don't think it's working correctly. I'll likely replace it with something with a remoteable speaker.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] CB Radios [message #346065 is a reply to message #346048] Sun, 04 August 2019 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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I have found that the remote speakers tend to have less treble sound and
easier to hear as the static sound is dampered.
You can see I know little about speakers.

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:16 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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> I have an all in one set now, but I don't think it's working correctly.
> I'll likely replace it with something with a remoteable speaker.
>
> --johnny
>
> --
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> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
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Re: [GMCnet] CB Radios [message #346072 is a reply to message #346065] Mon, 05 August 2019 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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What you want is a good speaker designed for 2 way radio communication. If you have room. You do not want a high quality speaker that is designed for music.

Motorola made thousands of them. They are all over the used market.
I usually buy them for $10 at hamfests. You can buy a used one on ebay for under $20.00 and new ones for $30.

Here is one on ebay: Just search: Motorola speaker.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Motorola-HSN4031B-Internal-External-Speaker-w-Mounting-Bracket-FreeShp/283487096910?epid=1901419564&hash=item420125d 04e:g:xMEAAOSwFD1c3bvu



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Re: CB Radios [message #346075 is a reply to message #346015] Mon, 05 August 2019 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What KenB said. (I do know a fair amount about speakers)
Anything below about 200 - 250Hz imparts no intelligence, nor does anything above about 3KHz. Treble and bass merely make noise and cloud the intelligence in what's usually an already noisy environment. Get someone's com system speaker, the Motorola ones are the most prevalent. Many of them were made by Quam under contract.

For cheap and dirty, if you happen to have a spare speaker on hand, try stiffening the surround with some glue to kill the bass response. Then parallel the speaker input with a non-polarized capacitor, adjusting its value till you get the correct response.

It's really simpler to just buy one made for that service Smile

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] CB Radios [message #346080 is a reply to message #346075] Mon, 05 August 2019 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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The best speakers for a Citizen's Band radio, only serve to improve the
incoming messages to a better quality static. I had no idea that those
things were still in use with the advent of cellular phones. Not my cup of
tea, for sure.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, 6:24 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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> What KenB said. (I do know a fair amount about speakers)
> Anything below about 200 - 250Hz imparts no intelligence, nor does
> anything above about 3KHz. Treble and bass merely make noise and cloud the
> intelligence in what's usually an already noisy environment. Get
> someone's com system speaker, the Motorola ones are the most prevalent.
> Many of
> them were made by Quam under contract.
>
> For cheap and dirty, if you happen to have a spare speaker on hand, try
> stiffening the surround with some glue to kill the bass response. Then
> parallel the speaker input with a non-polarized capacitor, adjusting its
> value till you get the correct response.
>
> It's really simpler to just buy one made for that service :)
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] CB Radios [message #346095 is a reply to message #346080] Mon, 05 August 2019 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Besides cell phones, a lot of stuff you used to get over CB, can now be found on the Waze app. If you're not familiar with it, Waze is a GPS app that lets you make driver reports via the app, to warn motorists behind you, and receive warnings from motorists ahead of you...

So lets say you are rolling along, and you come up on an accident, speed trap, debris on the road, whatever. You then "report" it via the app by hitting the "speed trap" button or "car parked on shoulder" button, etc. A user behind you will then get a warning when they approach the spot where you reported the hazard... They can then confirm it is still a hazard, or report it gone, (for example, when the speedtrap moves somewhere else) and after a couple negative reports, it will disappear off the app.

There are enough users now that it really works well, unless you are on some deserted highway....

Definitely not as "colorful" as getting the information over CB, but that's progress for you I guess....


Mark S. '73 Painted Desert, Manny 1 Ton Front End, Howell Injection, Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes, Fort Worth, TX
Re: [GMCnet] CB Radios [message #346097 is a reply to message #346095] Mon, 05 August 2019 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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I love Wayze
I had some trouble with waze traveling. It kept reporting it couldn't connect.
I use it at home all the time with no issues
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Besides cell phones, a lot of stuff you used to get over CB, can now be found on the Waze app. If you're not familiar with it, Waze is a GPS app that
lets you make driver reports via the app, to warn motorists behind you, and receive warnings from motorists ahead of you...

So lets say you are rolling along, and you come up on an accident, speed trap, debris on the road, whatever. You then "report" it via the app by
hitting the "speed trap" button or "car parked on shoulder" button, etc. A user behind you will then get a warning when they approach the spot where
you reported the hazard... They can then confirm it is still a hazard, or report it gone, (for example, when the speedtrap moves somewhere else) and
after a couple negative reports, it will disappear off the app.

There are enough users now that it really works well, unless you are on some deserted highway....

Definitely not as "colorful" as getting the information over CB, but that's progress for you I guess....
--
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX

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Re: [GMCnet] CB Radios [message #346102 is a reply to message #346097] Mon, 05 August 2019 22:05 Go to previous message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Thanks for all the info, guys. I didn't even think about the speaker issue. My coach runs pretty quiet, so if that becomes an issue, I can always add one. The only time i have ever used the old one is when traveling with another vehicle. It is really easy to just pick up the hand set and see it the other guy (usually my son) wants to stop at a rest stop, or for lunch or something.

Thanks again,


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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