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Wardhill is currently offline  Wardhill   United States
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Well I got the generator started only to find there's no power being delivered to the coach. Checked breakers and fuses all seemed good. Now what?
Happy fourth everyone


Jeffrey Fleming 1976 edgemonte Living in Maine
Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344888 is a reply to message #344887] Thu, 04 July 2019 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check that you're not still looking at shore power as your source.

Some coaches you have to plug the shore power pigtail into the generator
outlet, some have a two-way lockout switch in the breaker panel to
change sources.

If that isn't the problem then start looking at the genny itself.
Usually loss of residual magnetism is the culprit.

Stu

On 7/4/2019 11:31 AM, Jeffrey Fleming via Gmclist wrote:
> Well I got the generator started only to find there's no power being delivered to the coach. Checked breakers and fuses all seemed good. Now what?
> Happy fourth everyone
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344889 is a reply to message #344888] Thu, 04 July 2019 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coach is not connected to shore power. But I did notice one breaker with a double switch was acting a little funny. After I turned it completely of it seemed to rest alright

Jeffrey Fleming 1976 edgemonte Living in Maine

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Re: [GMCnet] Today's questio [message #344890 is a reply to message #344888] Thu, 04 July 2019 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check out the breaker on the gen dress thfirst then to the bridge rectifier
then the field mag.
We work on thes about twice a week and seldom address the magn

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 11:40 AM Stu Rasmussen (97381.com) via Gmclist <
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>
> Check that you're not still looking at shore power as your source.
>
> Some coaches you have to plug the shore power pigtail into the generator
> outlet, some have a two-way lockout switch in the breaker panel to
> change sources.
>
> If that isn't the problem then start looking at the genny itself.
> Usually loss of residual magnetism is the culprit.
>
> Stu
>
> On 7/4/2019 11:31 AM, Jeffrey Fleming via Gmclist wrote:
>> Well I got the generator started only to find there's no power being
> delivered to the coach. Checked breakers and fuses all seemed good. Now
> what?
>> Happy fourth everyone
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344891 is a reply to message #344889] Thu, 04 July 2019 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeffery, if you have a coach built by GMC, the output from the Onan winds
up in the male end of a cord that plugs into the receptacle in the power
cord storage compartment above the belt line on the drivers side of the
coach. If it is not plugged in, you will not have any power inside the
coach except for 12 volt DC.
When you hook up to shore power, you pull the generator cord and plug the
shore power cord into the receptacle where the generator was plugged in.
So, check to see if that is how yours is connected.
MANY of these coaches have been modified with automatic transfer
switches and various other configurations, so check carefully.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344899 is a reply to message #344891] Thu, 04 July 2019 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Jim,
There is a 4 prong outlet inside the box. The po had all kinds of adapters on the end of the 25 ' shore power cord . So do I plug that 4 prong shore cord into the outlet and fire up the generator? I think you've found my answer. But want to check first


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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344901 is a reply to message #344899] Thu, 04 July 2019 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep, plug her in.
Hal


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Re: Today's question [message #344920 is a reply to message #344887] Fri, 05 July 2019 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

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Re: Today's question [message #344921 is a reply to message #344887] Fri, 05 July 2019 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hadda cancel that one. Email folks, I didn't quite understand the wording. Sorry 'bout that.

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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344926 is a reply to message #344921] Fri, 05 July 2019 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, Johnny, I know, I know. It was a test to see if anyone reads my
postings? Or, it might be that I sometimes say no when I mean yes, or, I
can't tell a 7/16" wrench from a 10 mm, or last resort,
I can just man up and admit that I was bas-akwards. You are right,
I had it backwards. Inversely proportional to the square root of the speed,
or some other engineer speak. (Grin).
Yes, you are correct, the cords are normalized, It is the receptacle
inside the compartment that is Male, not the ends of the cords. That would
be a dangerous way to do it, for sure. Sorry if I confused anyone.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 5:03 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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> Hadda cancel that one. Email folks, I didn't quite understand the
> wording. Sorry 'bout that.
>
> --johnny
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> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344929 is a reply to message #344926] Fri, 05 July 2019 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"It is the receptacle inside the compartment that is Male, not the ends of the cords. "

I'm glad I'm not the only one who makes the same mistake twice Smile

We both know the receptacle inside the compartment (connected to the Onan output) is female, the cord ends are male.

Stu


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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344931 is a reply to message #344926] Fri, 05 July 2019 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The connector attached to the SOURCE of power is always FEMALE. That is true whether that source is commercial power or the generator set output. The LOAD connector is always MALE. Otherwise, "hot" power would be exposed on the male pins, and that could easily KILL!

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Yeah, Johnny, I know, I know. It was a test to see if anyone reads my
postings? Or, it might be that I sometimes say no when I mean yes, or, I
can't tell a 7/16" wrench from a 10 mm, or last resort,
I can just man up and admit that I was bas-akwards. You are right,
I had it backwards. Inversely proportional to the square root of the speed,
or some other engineer speak. (Grin).
Yes, you are correct, the cords are normalized, It is the receptacle
inside the compartment that is Male, not the ends of the cords. That would
be a dangerous way to do it, for sure. Sorry if I confused anyone.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 5:03 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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> Hadda cancel that one. Email folks, I didn't quite understand the
> wording. Sorry 'bout that.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344956 is a reply to message #344931] Sat, 06 July 2019 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wardhill is currently offline  Wardhill   United States
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Plugged her in ran the generator loaded for 35 minutes and all seems well. Time for a little reward maintenance. Can I buy the air and oil filter at Napa or chain auto parts store?
Btw
Thanks again everyone on to the next project
Regards,
Jeff


Jeffrey Fleming 1976 edgemonte Living in Maine
Re: Today's question [message #344957 is a reply to message #344887] Sat, 06 July 2019 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Onan 6K oil filter is Wix 51762. They should be able to cross reference to a NAPA gold by usually just dropping first digit

John Lebetski
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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344958 is a reply to message #344956] Sat, 06 July 2019 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep, napa gold filters are good.


Wix numbers you can cross from:

Air 42095
Oil. 51258

Some people run a different filter(51049 - longer). But that # above what i am using.

Napa gold and wix should be the same.



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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344959 is a reply to message #344958] Sat, 06 July 2019 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whoops. I posted engine #'s. Not onan #s

There is a little more to onan air filters. You might have to search.


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Re: [GMCnet] Today's question [message #344962 is a reply to message #344957] Sat, 06 July 2019 09:37 Go to previous message
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There is a NAPA air filter that would work. You would have to put a long threaded rod in, but it is bigger.

See:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/onan/p4427.html
and
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/onan/p4428.html

Read the captions as there are other numbers listed that could work. Onan part are very pricey.

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1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan


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> Onan 6K oil filter is Wix 51762. They should be able to cross reference to a NAPA gold by usually just dropping first digit
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