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Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343489] Sun, 19 May 2019 17:33 Go to next message
Al Hamilton   Canada
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I am trying to find the size of the sensor plug in a Ragusa FD Cover. I put it on then decided to add a temperature sensor now that it is full of nice new oil. Is it metric or SAE threads ??

No comments about planning ahead, please.


Al Hamilton, 76 Eleganza II, Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343490 is a reply to message #343489] Sun, 19 May 2019 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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It should be US pipe. Either 1/8" or 1/4" NPT.
Jim Hupy

On Sun, May 19, 2019, 3:42 PM Al Hamilton via Gmclist <
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> I am trying to find the size of the sensor plug in a Ragusa FD Cover. I
> put it on then decided to add a temperature sensor now that it is full of
> nice
> new oil. Is it metric or SAE threads ??
>
> No comments about planning ahead, please.
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Re: Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343491 is a reply to message #343489] Sun, 19 May 2019 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Al Hamilton   Canada
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Thanks Jim. I have a bunch of adapters. I can narrow the selection a lot and hopefully lose less oil until I find the right one.

Al Hamilton, 76 Eleganza II, Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343493 is a reply to message #343491] Sun, 19 May 2019 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Al,

I'm pretty sure it's 1/8" NPT. I was about to offer to measure the
installed one tomorrow when I realized that you can do the same thing
yourself -- just put a mic (or dividers) on the now-installed plug and
compare that to a known item. Not much rooom for error.

Ken H.

On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 7:22 PM Al Hamilton via Gmclist <
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> Thanks Jim. I have a bunch of adapters. I can narrow the selection a lot
> and hopefully lose less oil until I find the right one.
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> 76 Eleganza II,
> Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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Re: Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343502 is a reply to message #343489] Mon, 20 May 2019 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Why not just call Chase Ragusa and ask him?

johnny


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Re: Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343520 is a reply to message #343502] Mon, 20 May 2019 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Al Hamilton   Canada
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The sensor is in !! I measured the exposed threads on the plug and called Ragusa. The hole size is 1/4" NPT and with a 1/8" NPT sensor in an adapter all fit well. Only lost a small amount of oil changing the plug and sensor.

Thanks Jim, Ken, & Johnny


Al Hamilton, 76 Eleganza II, Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343521 is a reply to message #343520] Mon, 20 May 2019 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Al,
Almost all GMC MH accessory are non metric.
I discourage people from using metric as you do not expect to see it .
Watch out on alternators and Torque convertors.

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM Al Hamilton via Gmclist <
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> The sensor is in !! I measured the exposed threads on the plug and called
> Ragusa. The hole size is 1/4" NPT and with a 1/8" NPT sensor in an adapter
> all fit well. Only lost a small amount of oil changing the plug and
> sensor.
>
> Thanks Jim, Ken, & Johnny
> --
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> 76 Eleganza II,
> Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343529 is a reply to message #343521] Mon, 20 May 2019 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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It's sometimes useful to remember that GM issued a decree, IIRC in 1973,
that all NEW designs from 1974 on would be metric. SO, there was a long
period, including most of GMCMH production run, when "old" designs were
continuing to be produced, with "new" modifications -- in METRIC. Talk
about a mish-mash! And the world still suffers from a lot of that fiasco
-- but what else could they have done?

Ken H.

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 6:55 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
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> Al,
> Almost all GMC MH accessory are non metric.
> I discourage people from using metric as you do not expect to see it .
> Watch out on alternators and Torque convertors.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM Al Hamilton via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> The sensor is in !! I measured the exposed threads on the plug and
> called
>> Ragusa. The hole size is 1/4" NPT and with a 1/8" NPT sensor in an
> adapter
>> all fit well. Only lost a small amount of oil changing the plug and
>> sensor.
>>
>> Thanks Jim, Ken, & Johnny
>> --
>> Al Hamilton,
>> 76 Eleganza II,
>> Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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Re: Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343540 is a reply to message #343489] Wed, 22 May 2019 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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before you toss that plain steel cover search on youtube for a series of videos by Gale Banks where he scientificly analyzes aftermarket diff covers. Almost all of them upset fluid dynamics and aerated the fuild, starved the pinion bearing, and wasted energy making it into heat. There is a reason that ugly stamped cover is shaped as it is.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343541 is a reply to message #343540] Wed, 22 May 2019 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Stragand is currently offline  Dave Stragand   United States
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I’ve seen that video... but has anyone ever experienced an issue with the Ragusa covers?

> On May 22, 2019, at 9:22 PM, John R. Lebetski via Gmclist wrote:
>
> before you toss that plain steel cover search on youtube for a series of videos by Gale Banks where he scientificly analyzes aftermarket diff covers.
> Almost all of them upset fluid dynamics and aerated the fuild, starved the pinion bearing, and wasted energy making it into heat. There is a reason
> that ugly stamped cover is shaped as it is.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343543 is a reply to message #343541] Wed, 22 May 2019 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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The GMC rotates opposite of a rear drive. Cover is on opposite side.
The cover on our unit is designed to accommodate clearance of the front
steering .
These Ragusa covers have been running on our coaches since 1985 and have
never seen it cause pinion failure.
Having sold over 3,000 units, if there is a problem I would have heard
about it.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:38 PM Dave Stragand via Gmclist <
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> I’ve seen that video... but has anyone ever experienced an issue with the
> Ragusa covers?
>
>> On May 22, 2019, at 9:22 PM, John R. Lebetski via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> before you toss that plain steel cover search on youtube for a series of
> videos by Gale Banks where he scientificly analyzes aftermarket diff covers.
>> Almost all of them upset fluid dynamics and aerated the fuild, starved
> the pinion bearing, and wasted energy making it into heat. There is a
> reason
>> that ugly stamped cover is shaped as it is.
>> --
>> John Lebetski
>> Woodstock, IL
>> 77 Eleganza II
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Re: Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343546 is a reply to message #343489] Thu, 23 May 2019 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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A closer look gives me the impression the Ragusa on my 26' has the same contour - except the fins on the outside - as the stamped one. I've not set them side by side, the 23' with the stamped cover is gone. I side with Jimmy the K though - after that many if there was a problem it would of come up by now.

--johnny


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Re: Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343548 is a reply to message #343489] Thu, 23 May 2019 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Agree. If the inner contour and volume is same, it's probably behaving the same. Still a great study by Banks and brings awareness to aftermarket and their unknown R and D compared to OEM. Lots of performance claims that are simply not true.

John Lebetski
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa Final drive Cover Sensor Size [message #343570 is a reply to message #343548] Thu, 23 May 2019 12:33 Go to previous message
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My study in hydro behavior tells me that the fact the cover is on the
opposite side makes all the difference.
I can understand why there is so much concern on the standard rear ends.
Splash lubing is not a very great way, but simple .
Our Camshaft on our engine is another example of splash lube. I have seen
Roller lifters fail because the engine was let idling for a long time.

On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 8:26 AM John R. Lebetski via Gmclist <
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> Agree. If the inner contour and volume is same, it's probably behaving the
> same. Still a great study by Banks and brings awareness to aftermarket and
> their unknown R and D compared to OEM. Lots of performance claims that
> are simply not true.
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> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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