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Wed, 06 March 2019 12:53  |
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As the weight reduction tv ad says, it aint that hard.
Use any veneered panel you wish and coat the rear with shellac before you glue it to the solid wood framework. Once the glue dries coat the outside with a clear water based conversion varnish. That will stay strong even if it sees a bit of moisture. You can leave the clear finish or paint it any color you wish. It will be nearly as light per unit of weight as any of the very expensive aircraft or marine cabinetry and way better than any of these Utube wonder ideas. I prefer hard maple for the framework as it is easy to find, stays straight and holds fasteners well.
To make it as easy as possible buy or rent a 23 gage pin nailer to hold the veneer while the glue dries. The pins won’t show and if you cut your panels to exact right angles your door/drawer front will be perfect rectangles of the right size. Sand or lightly rout to soften the edges to the touch. You can reuse the existing face frames or make new, lighter ones. If you want curved end panels cut a top and bottom piece to fit the desired curve, then fasten ribs to follow that contour. Add the veneer panels and you will have a strong, light weight weight beautiful curved panels.
Take a look at pics of the interior Dan Winchester did a decade or so ago to see how well this can work.
Jerry Work
The Dovetail Joint
Fine furniture designed & hand crafted
in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building
in historic Kerby, OR
http://jerrywork.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:36:10 -0600
From: GENE KNUEPPEL
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I watched the video and liked the idea but the cabinets I need to build run
the full length of the mh along the top. Our plan is to store all the stuff
we carry so my issue is how strong and will they hold the weight
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM James Hupy via Gmclist
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> I would consider any materials used in GMC cabinets for their resistance to
> moisture, mold, and mildew. The fire resistance is important, but that can
> be handled with good prevention methods. But these coaches always leak, and
> sweat, and set closed up and unused for long stretches of time. Particle
> board and composites are not your friend here. Just saying. Spend a bit
> more up front on the correct materials, do it once and do it right. The
> next owner of your coach will thank you.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341550 is a reply to message #341549] |
Wed, 06 March 2019 13:20  |
Mike Kelley
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Gene K.:
I hope what you are planning on storing in upper cabinets is all light weight stuff. Storing heavy stuff at the floor is much more in keeping w/ the GMC engineered low center of gravity!
Just sayin!
Mike/The Corvair a holic
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> On Mar 6, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Gerald Work via Gmclist wrote:
>
> As the weight reduction tv ad says, it aint that hard.
>
> Use any veneered panel you wish and coat the rear with shellac before you glue it to the solid wood framework. Once the glue dries coat the outside with a clear water based conversion varnish. That will stay strong even if it sees a bit of moisture. You can leave the clear finish or paint it any color you wish. It will be nearly as light per unit of weight as any of the very expensive aircraft or marine cabinetry and way better than any of these Utube wonder ideas. I prefer hard maple for the framework as it is easy to find, stays straight and holds fasteners well.
>
> To make it as easy as possible buy or rent a 23 gage pin nailer to hold the veneer while the glue dries. The pins won’t show and if you cut your panels to exact right angles your door/drawer front will be perfect rectangles of the right size. Sand or lightly rout to soften the edges to the touch. You can reuse the existing face frames or make new, lighter ones. If you want curved end panels cut a top and bottom piece to fit the desired curve, then fasten ribs to follow that contour. Add the veneer panels and you will have a strong, light weight weight beautiful curved panels.
>
> Take a look at pics of the interior Dan Winchester did a decade or so ago to see how well this can work.
>
> Jerry Work
> The Dovetail Joint
> Fine furniture designed & hand crafted
> in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building
> in historic Kerby, OR
> http://jerrywork.com
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> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:36:10 -0600
> From: GENE KNUEPPEL
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make
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> I watched the video and liked the idea but the cabinets I need to build run
> the full length of the mh along the top. Our plan is to store all the stuff
> we carry so my issue is how strong and will they hold the weight
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM James Hupy via Gmclist
> wrote:
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>> I would consider any materials used in GMC cabinets for their resistance to
>> moisture, mold, and mildew. The fire resistance is important, but that can
>> be handled with good prevention methods. But these coaches always leak, and
>> sweat, and set closed up and unused for long stretches of time. Particle
>> board and composites are not your friend here. Just saying. Spend a bit
>> more up front on the correct materials, do it once and do it right. The
>> next owner of your coach will thank you.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341554 is a reply to message #341550] |
Wed, 06 March 2019 18:59 |
James Hupy
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Leave the heavy stuff at home. Keep the dish towels and wash cloths and
napkins up high. Pots and pans down low. Heavy glass bottles containing
whiskey etc at eye level.Triple A card and cell phone in your pockets.
Tools, under the dinette. Do your maintenance faithfully at home. Enjoy
your coach. Make lots of memories. Life is short.
Jim Hupy
On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 4:46 PM Mike Kelley via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org wrote:
> Gene K.:
> I hope what you are planning on storing in upper cabinets is all light
> weight stuff. Storing heavy stuff at the floor is much more in keeping w/
> the GMC engineered low center of gravity!
> Just sayin!
> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 6, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Gerald Work via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> As the weight reduction tv ad says, it aint that hard.
>>
>> Use any veneered panel you wish and coat the rear with shellac before
> you glue it to the solid wood framework. Once the glue dries coat the
> outside with a clear water based conversion varnish. That will stay strong
> even if it sees a bit of moisture. You can leave the clear finish or paint
> it any color you wish. It will be nearly as light per unit of weight as any
> of the very expensive aircraft or marine cabinetry and way better than any
> of these Utube wonder ideas. I prefer hard maple for the framework as it
> is easy to find, stays straight and holds fasteners well.
>>
>> To make it as easy as possible buy or rent a 23 gage pin nailer to hold
> the veneer while the glue dries. The pins won’t show and if you cut your
> panels to exact right angles your door/drawer front will be perfect
> rectangles of the right size. Sand or lightly rout to soften the edges to
> the touch. You can reuse the existing face frames or make new, lighter
> ones. If you want curved end panels cut a top and bottom piece to fit the
> desired curve, then fasten ribs to follow that contour. Add the veneer
> panels and you will have a strong, light weight weight beautiful curved
> panels.
>>
>> Take a look at pics of the interior Dan Winchester did a decade or so
> ago to see how well this can work.
>>
>> Jerry Work
>> The Dovetail Joint
>> Fine furniture designed & hand crafted
>> in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building
>> in historic Kerby, OR
>> http://jerrywork.com
>> =======
>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:36:10 -0600
>> From: GENE KNUEPPEL
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make
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>>
>> I watched the video and liked the idea but the cabinets I need to build
> run
>> the full length of the mh along the top. Our plan is to store all the
> stuff
>> we carry so my issue is how strong and will they hold the weight
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM James Hupy via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would consider any materials used in GMC cabinets for their
> resistance to
>>> moisture, mold, and mildew. The fire resistance is important, but that
> can
>>> be handled with good prevention methods. But these coaches always leak,
> and
>>> sweat, and set closed up and unused for long stretches of time. Particle
>>> board and composites are not your friend here. Just saying. Spend a bit
>>> more up front on the correct materials, do it once and do it right. The
>>> next owner of your coach will thank you.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Oregon
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>> ========
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341555 is a reply to message #341554] |
Wed, 06 March 2019 19:12 |
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Gene,
If you had reviewed the pictures that I posted links to in my previous email, you would have noticed that there are no HEAVY items stored in the upper cabinets. All heavy items are stored at or near floor level. You DO NOT want any heavy items up high.
J. R. Wright
GMC Great Laker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 Buskirk; Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Location in Tucson
> On Mar 6, 2019, at 5:59 PM, James Hupy via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Leave the heavy stuff at home. Keep the dish towels and wash cloths and
> napkins up high. Pots and pans down low. Heavy glass bottles containing
> whiskey etc at eye level.Triple A card and cell phone in your pockets.
> Tools, under the dinette. Do your maintenance faithfully at home. Enjoy
> your coach. Make lots of memories. Life is short.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 4:46 PM Mike Kelley via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org wrote:
>
>> Gene K.:
>> I hope what you are planning on storing in upper cabinets is all light
>> weight stuff. Storing heavy stuff at the floor is much more in keeping w/
>> the GMC engineered low center of gravity!
>> Just sayin!
>> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Gerald Work via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> As the weight reduction tv ad says, it aint that hard.
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