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| Inteli-Power 9260 Repair ? [message #341504] |
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pjburt
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My Progressive Dynamics PD9260CV is not putting out DC voltage. I did the trouble-shooting in the manual to confirm it. The unit was in the coach when I ought it so I don't know how old it is. Regardless, online research indicates it is basically a non repairable unit. A replacement converter (PD4560CSV) is available for $2.00 less than buying the whole unit.
Looking at the replacement converter photos and the wiring diagram, I don't see any replaceable parts. Does anyone have any experience repairing these or is this one going to be just another anchor.
Thanks
Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands
Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power 9260 Repair ? [message #341506 is a reply to message #341505] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 06:59  |
Ken Henderson
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Jerry,
Most have heard my tale of the Progressive Dynamics, but I'll repeat it
anyway: 10-12 years or so ago, my PD91xx (which I'd bought several years
before, refurbished) failed. I opened it, as Emery suggests, and found
that the output lugs had come unsoldered from the printed circuit board. I
resoldered them and, as a reinforcement, added screws through them. That
was the end of the problem, as far as I was concerned. But, I mentioned
the incident here and someone forwarded the tale to Progressive Dynamics.
Well, before I knew it, they were writing and calling me, repeatedly,
wanting me to return the PD91xx in exchange for a new one. I finally
agreed, and they not only sent me a new, later design (PD9240), but sent a
few "Charge Wizard" controllers for me to give away at GMC rallies.
That incident has been a large contributor to the popularity of PD ever
since. You CAN repair 'most anything -- and it sometimes works out better
than you expect. :-)
Ken H.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:59 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> You might drill out the rivets that hold the case together.
> It might have gotten a voltage spike. This can sometimes burn a MOV.
> The Metal Oxide Varistor or MOV is a voltage dependent, nonlinear device
> that provides excellent transient voltage suppression. The Metal Oxide
> Varistor is designed to protect various types of electronic devices and
> semiconductor elements from switching and induced lightning surges. This
> component looks like a disc capacitor and it can sometimes burn up and be
> easily replaced.
> It could also be some burnt capacitors.
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> Open the case and take a look.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Jerry Burt via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> My Progressive Dynamics PD9260CV is not putting out DC voltage. I did
> the trouble-shooting in the manual to confirm it. The unit was in the coach
> when
>> I ought it so I don't know how old it is. Regardless, online research
> indicates it is basically a non repairable unit. A replacement converter
>> (PD4560CSV) is available for $2.00 less than buying the whole unit.
>>
>> Looking at the replacement converter photos and the wiring diagram, I
> don't see any replaceable parts. Does anyone have any experience repairing
> these
>> or is this one going to be just another anchor.
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Patti & Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
>> 73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands
>> 77 Palm Beach - Parts Coach
>> Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS
>> A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour.
>>
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| Re: Inteli-Power 9260 Repair ? [message #341507 is a reply to message #341504] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 07:51 |
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Matt Colie
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pjburt wrote on Mon, 04 March 2019 22:00My Progressive Dynamics PD9260CV is not putting out DC voltage. I did the trouble-shooting in the manual to confirm it. The unit was in the coach when I ought it so I don't know how old it is. Regardless, online research indicates it is basically a non repairable unit. A replacement converter (PD4560CSV) is available for $2.00 less than buying the whole unit.
Looking at the replacement converter photos and the wiring diagram, I don't see any replaceable parts. Does anyone have any experience repairing these or is this one going to be just another anchor.
Thanks
Jerry,
I suggest that you look more closely at the PD catalog. The 45XX are power centers and the 92XX are stand alone converters. There may be packaging issues. However, I am sure than if you contact the PD tech people, you will get good and honest answers. There is a reason that they are so respected on this board.
Also, an XX60 from PD is a little large for a pair of GC2s. The reason I have one is that I had to move mine to a place next to the passengers right ankle to get the wire run short enough to recover the house bank on the APU when at a music fest and I want to minimize the annoying run time. The 9260 is a flatter package than the 9245 by about an inch.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Inteli-Power 9260 Repair ? [message #341514 is a reply to message #341504] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 12:20 |
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RF_Burns
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I've been in electronics for 40+ years, and used switching power supplies (as opposed to linear PS with the heavy transformers) almost exclusively for the past 25yrs. Linear PS are heavy and run hot under load. Switching PS are light, relatively inexpensive, and run fairly cool even under heavy loads. Linear PS are usually simple and easy to fix, the electronics are on the low voltage side. Switching power supplies have many electronic components connected to the line on the high voltage side.
Usually its a surge (from nearby lightning etc) that takes out a switching PS. Fixing it can be tricky. Usually you can troubleshoot to a couple faulty components. After replacing them you try to test it and BANG the magic smoke comes out of the new components. So more troubleshooting... a variable auto-transformer helps reduce the amount of replaced components you blow up while testing.
So after several hours and a mitt full of blown parts you get it running again. You have to write-off a bunch of time and parts because the customer doesn't want to pay anymore than half the price of a new one to fix the old. Then next day, or next week, or next month, it fails again. There is always a high voltage part that was stressed and is going to fail in the future. You end up eating all the time and parts you put into it and sell the customer a new one.
So lesson learned, is switching PS are cheap compared to fixing them. Buy a new one to replace it.
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power 9260 Repair ? [message #341516 is a reply to message #341514] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 13:09 |
johnd01
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I wish I had read about Progressive Dynamics sooner. I ebayed 9270 last
June. About November I discovered the connection on my 15A cord had
overheated and 4 of 5 batteries were dead. I had not jumped the genset
starting battery to the house batteries like I did the chassis battery. I
unplugged the 9270 and plugged the coach back in. Almost no current draw.
I amazoned the next 9270 but have not installed it.
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 10:42 AM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I've been in electronics for 40+ years, and used switching power supplies
> (as opposed to linear PS with the heavy transformers) almost exclusively for
> the past 25yrs. Linear PS are heavy and run hot under load. Switching PS
> are light, relatively inexpensive, and run fairly cool even under heavy
> loads. Linear PS are usually simple and easy to fix, the electronics are
> on the low voltage side. Switching power supplies have many electronic
> components connected to the line on the high voltage side.
>
> Usually its a surge (from nearby lightning etc) that takes out a switching
> PS. Fixing it can be tricky. Usually you can troubleshoot to a couple
> faulty components. After replacing them you try to test it and BANG the
> magic smoke comes out of the new components. So more troubleshooting... a
> variable auto-transformer helps reduce the amount of replaced components
> you blow up while testing.
>
> So after several hours and a mitt full of blown parts you get it running
> again. You have to write-off a bunch of time and parts because the customer
> doesn't want to pay anymore than half the price of a new one to fix the
> old. Then next day, or next week, or next month, it fails again. There is
> always a high voltage part that was stressed and is going to fail in the
> future. You end up eating all the time and parts you put into it and sell
> the customer a new one.
>
> So lesson learned, is switching PS are cheap compared to fixing them. Buy
> a new one to replace it.
>
>
> --
> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: Inteli-Power 9260 Repair ? [message #341525 is a reply to message #341522] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 18:07 |
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Matt Colie
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pjburt wrote:
Well, I got the cover off and didn't see anywhere the smoke escaped from or any loose connections. Reading Bruce's post, I think I'll order a new one from Amazon.
Matt added<Good Idea, I have managed to repair maybe a quarter of those that I have opened up.>
I may as well add the 2nd combiner to the charge system while I'm there.
Matt asked <So you can charge the generator battery as well?>
Matt, the PD45XX would be nice if I had a wall with enough free space. As I'm configured now, it would not be practical.
Matt added <That is why we are here.... Besides, the 92XX is a straight replacement, just move wires.>
Thanks again for your help.
<Glad to be here for you.>
<If you still have the house bank in the front and the OE wiring to it, don't even bother with the XX60. You will be lucky (and the house bank REAL DEAD if you can get a charge rate higher than 30 amps. 40~45 is still good so you can run other things while charging.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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