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Sun, 03 March 2019 18:25  |
GatsbysCruise
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All you do it your selfers might like this.
This video shows how to make your cabinets out of foam panels and to strengthen them so they will become composite panels.
The second video shows how you can put a outside layer on for the esthetic value or the looks.
Do note that were there are hinges, a piece of wood is installed in the foam panel.
He uses paper bags for his out side look with stain and clear urethane but it may work
equally well with your favorite wall paper.
Enjoy
How To Ultra Light & Strong Cabinets Foam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucf2FVIdr1Q
How To Paper Bag Technique For Foam Cabinets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiI0AnPPySg
This Vid will show you the end result and strength of the foam cabinets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VUpd3t6ew
AND OF COURSE, Another vid, improvement or different take on the same design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJv0pEjvC34
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341450 is a reply to message #341446] |
Sun, 03 March 2019 20:27  |
Emery Stora
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That is absolutely NOT true. You are confusing polystyrene with polyurethane!
Burning polyurethane can release hydrogen cynaide.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:08 PM, Rich Shoop via Gmclist wrote:
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> Be aware that when polystyrene burns, it has cyanide as one of the byproducts.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 4:25 PM, slc via Gmclist wrote:
>>
>> All you do it your selfers might like this.
>>
>> This video shows how to make your cabinets out of foam panels and to strengthen them so they will become composite panels.
>>
>> The second video shows how you can put a outside layer on for the esthetic value or the looks.
>> Do note that were there are hinges, a piece of wood is installed in the foam panel.
>>
>>
>> He uses paper bags for his out side look with stain and clear urethane but it may work
>> equally well with your favorite wall paper.
>>
>> Enjoy
>>
>>
>> How To Ultra Light & Strong Cabinets Foam
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucf2FVIdr1Q
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>>
>> How To Paper Bag Technique For Foam Cabinets
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiI0AnPPySg
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>> This Vid will show you the end result and strength of the foam cabinets.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VUpd3t6ew
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341486 is a reply to message #341450] |
Mon, 04 March 2019 12:22 |
G?Rs66
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I watched the videos nice my concern would be weight inside for overhead
cabinets and how to attach them to the ceiling and sidewall
On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 8:27 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> That is absolutely NOT true. You are confusing polystyrene with
> polyurethane!
>
> Burning polyurethane can release hydrogen cynaide.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:08 PM, Rich Shoop via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Be aware that when polystyrene burns, it has cyanide as one of the
> byproducts.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 4:25 PM, slc via Gmclist
> wrote:
>>>
>>> All you do it your selfers might like this.
>>>
>>> This video shows how to make your cabinets out of foam panels and to
> strengthen them so they will become composite panels.
>>>
>>> The second video shows how you can put a outside layer on for the
> esthetic value or the looks.
>>> Do note that were there are hinges, a piece of wood is installed in the
> foam panel.
>>>
>>>
>>> He uses paper bags for his out side look with stain and clear urethane
> but it may work
>>> equally well with your favorite wall paper.
>>>
>>> Enjoy
>>>
>>>
>>> How To Ultra Light & Strong Cabinets Foam
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucf2FVIdr1Q
>>>
>>>
>>> How To Paper Bag Technique For Foam Cabinets
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiI0AnPPySg
>>>
>>>
>>> This Vid will show you the end result and strength of the foam cabinets.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VUpd3t6ew
>>> --
>>> GatsbysCruise. \
>>> 74GMC260 Former Glacier Model style. \
>>> Waukegan, Illinois \ Keep those MiniDiscs Spinning \ MY GREYHOUND IS
> FASTER THAN YOUR HONOR ROLL STUDENT \ WindowsXP-Win7-Win8.1-UBUNTU STUDIO -
>>> UBUNTU VOYAGER - Berzin Auto Center
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341513 is a reply to message #341446] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 12:11 |
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richshoop wrote on Sun, 03 March 2019 20:08Be aware that when polystyrene burns, it has cyanide as one of the byproducts.
Looking online, it looks like it produces styrene gas, which isn't exactly great for you...
However, I didn't see it mentioned in the video, but one benefit of using foam insulation board would be that it has a fire resistance specification built in as it's rated to be used in homes... The Dow Corning stuff sites conforming to ASTM E119 -Fire Resistance Rated Wall Assemblies.
Here's a vid of some guy trying to set fire to one of these cabinets... Based on the fire rating and this video, I would not sweat having these in my coach...
https://youtu.be/cB3PiPaPO_I?t=274
I like the ease and cost of the paper bag method, but it doesn't really meet up with our tastes so far as appearance... But I like the idea of using veneers and even laminates... I was looking at some of the marine foam-core products too, but man, are they expensive... Especially the finish grade panels.
This guy shows a project using walnut veneer that could be applied to RV cabinets. (I would go with the insulation board though, instead of the craft store stuff due to the fire resistance):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Lwd4l1Rpo
Formica and some others are even offering metal laminates that would probably work well. Would be useful if you were going for a modern airstream interior look... (Would add to the fire resistance too)
http://www.formica.com/en/us/products/decometal#swatchesTab
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341515 is a reply to message #341513] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 13:08 |
GatsbysCruise
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I like the idea of light weight cabinets. Everytime I consider making something for the coach, I think about adding that weight and I put it off.
The paper bag look is supposed to have a leather like look to it. Kind of like that leather that is stitched with small pieces of leather to make a big piece.
I have to say in the right coach, it would look good.
I was wondering, if you used the screen for strength, and flatten it well, perhaps you can use something like wallpaper.
I had thought about using H/D aluminum foil instead of screen, and using a pin to make small holes about 4 inches apart so the glue can dry. Then apply wall paper
onto the aluminum. you would have to level any high edges but if the result was good, you would have a very light cabinet with tasteful good looking side panels.
I am considering adding a table cabinet and thought this method might work if I can make it easy enough to produce it. looking at embedding some wood strips for strength where the table sits/supports from, but not that big a deal.
Its that or buying some composite shelves and cutting them for the cabinet and assembling...
I think it also considers how energetic you want to be on the project, 
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341519 is a reply to message #341515] |
Tue, 05 March 2019 14:06 |
James Hupy
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I would consider any materials used in GMC cabinets for their resistance to
moisture, mold, and mildew. The fire resistance is important, but that can
be handled with good prevention methods. But these coaches always leak, and
sweat, and set closed up and unused for long stretches of time. Particle
board and composites are not your friend here. Just saying. Spend a bit
more up front on the correct materials, do it once and do it right. The
next owner of your coach will thank you.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 11:22 AM slc via Gmclist I like the idea of light weight cabinets. Everytime I consider making[/color]
> something for the coach, I think about adding that weight and I put it off.
>
> The paper bag look is supposed to have a leather like look to it. Kind of
> like that leather that is stitched with small pieces of leather to make a
> big piece.
> I have to say in the right coach, it would look good.
>
> I was wondering, if you used the screen for strength, and flatten it well,
> perhaps you can use something like wallpaper.
> I had thought about using H/D aluminum foil instead of screen, and using a
> pin to make small holes about 4 inches apart so the glue can dry. Then
> apply wall paper
> onto the aluminum. you would have to level any high edges but if the
> result was good, you would have a very light cabinet with tasteful good
> looking
> side panels.
>
> I am considering adding a table cabinet and thought this method might work
> if I can make it easy enough to produce it. looking at embedding some wood
> strips for strength where the table sits/supports from, but not that big a
> deal.
>
> Its that or buying some composite shelves and cutting them for the cabinet
> and assembling...
>
> I think it also considers how energetic you want to be on the project,
> :lol:
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> 74GMC260 Former Glacier Model style. \
> Waukegan, Illinois \ Keep those MiniDiscs Spinning \ MY GREYHOUND IS
> FASTER THAN YOUR HONOR ROLL STUDENT \ WindowsXP-Win7-Win8.1-UBUNTU STUDIO -
> UBUNTU VOYAGER - Berzin Auto Center
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| Re: [GMCnet] LIGHT WEIGHT PANELS FOR CABINETS that You make [message #341540 is a reply to message #341519] |
Wed, 06 March 2019 09:36 |
G?Rs66
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I watched the video and liked the idea but the cabinets I need to build run
the full length of the mh along the top. Our plan is to store all the stuff
we carry so my issue is how strong and will they hold the weight
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM James Hupy via Gmclist
wrote:
> I would consider any materials used in GMC cabinets for their resistance to
> moisture, mold, and mildew. The fire resistance is important, but that can
> be handled with good prevention methods. But these coaches always leak, and
> sweat, and set closed up and unused for long stretches of time. Particle
> board and composites are not your friend here. Just saying. Spend a bit
> more up front on the correct materials, do it once and do it right. The
> next owner of your coach will thank you.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 11:22 AM slc via Gmclist wrote:
>
>> I like the idea of light weight cabinets. Everytime I consider making
>> something for the coach, I think about adding that weight and I put it
> off.
>>
>> The paper bag look is supposed to have a leather like look to it. Kind
> of
>> like that leather that is stitched with small pieces of leather to make a
>> big piece.
>> I have to say in the right coach, it would look good.
>>
>> I was wondering, if you used the screen for strength, and flatten it
> well,
>> perhaps you can use something like wallpaper.
>> I had thought about using H/D aluminum foil instead of screen, and using
> a
>> pin to make small holes about 4 inches apart so the glue can dry. Then
>> apply wall paper
>> onto the aluminum. you would have to level any high edges but if the
>> result was good, you would have a very light cabinet with tasteful good
>> looking
>> side panels.
>>
>> I am considering adding a table cabinet and thought this method might
> work
>> if I can make it easy enough to produce it. looking at embedding some
> wood
>> strips for strength where the table sits/supports from, but not that big
> a
>> deal.
>>
>> Its that or buying some composite shelves and cutting them for the
> cabinet
>> and assembling...
>>
>> I think it also considers how energetic you want to be on the project,
>> :lol:
>> --
>> GatsbysCruise. \
>> 74GMC260 Former Glacier Model style. \
>> Waukegan, Illinois \ Keep those MiniDiscs Spinning \ MY GREYHOUND IS
>> FASTER THAN YOUR HONOR ROLL STUDENT \ WindowsXP-Win7-Win8.1-UBUNTU
> STUDIO -
>> UBUNTU VOYAGER - Berzin Auto Center
>>
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