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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341047 is a reply to message #341035] |
Fri, 15 February 2019 17:41 |
jhbridges
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Whatta I care what it looks like, I'm inside. If you take this route and your spare is original, do the drive wheels last.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341052 is a reply to message #341047] |
Fri, 15 February 2019 18:27 |
gmc-email-list
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Johnny B.:
Please explain why you would do the front drive wheels last. I want my best wheels and tires on the front drive wheels and as soon as possible.
In my opinion - a flat at the front could be life threatening whereas a flat at one of the rears may be expensive but not as disastrous to handling.
Am I wrong?
Mike/The Corvair a holic
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> On Feb 15, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
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> Whatta I care what it looks like, I'm inside. If you take this route and your spare is original, do the drive wheels last.
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> --johnny
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> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341093 is a reply to message #341061] |
Sun, 17 February 2019 10:15 |
G?Rs66
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OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
problem?
Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower
Thanks for the help and the info from this site
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> My 76 Palm Beach came with 16" steel rims and aged out tires. I replaced
> the tires and then bought Star XD aluminum wheels one pair every 6-8 weeks
> and Discount Tire swapped the new tires when the wheels came in. I ordered
> the wheels through the nearest Discount Tire. I sold the six steel rims to
> a local GMC owner for the price of one new aluminum wheel.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
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> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Bob Dunahugh
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> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 21:16
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
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> 3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud
> rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an
> older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can
> take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One
> man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: RE: 16" wheels.
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> OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So
> what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a
> few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out
> schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341095 is a reply to message #341035] |
Sun, 17 February 2019 11:42 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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Mike - you ain't wrong as far as it goes. BUT^. If you put 16s on the front but have a 16.5 spare, replacing a front flat means non - equal tires side to side, which means the differential has to make the difference. It isn't really meant to do that on a longterm basis, particularly if you've a limited slip. (If you've seen the Ratrod Toad, you noted two spares. This because the rear tyres are larger than the fronts and it's got a locker rear end under it. Assymetric tires would probably tear it up fairly quickly.)
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341104 is a reply to message #341093] |
Sun, 17 February 2019 16:46 |
powwerjon
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Gene,
The difference between a 16.5” typically a 8.75-16.5E tire and a 16” LT 225/75R16E tire typically does not change the final drive ratio. The tires listed are the stock size that most use. You can go up to a 235 or 245 size tire but that affect your final drive ratio. Our coach has a 3.21 final drive with a 3.50 chain drive ratio which gives me a final drive ratio of 3.67 which I really like for travel our west. I have attached a file the is a guide to tire sizes and final drive ratios.
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Brown_Drive_Tire_Ratios.pdf
JR Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 Buskirk Stretch
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Michigan
On location in Tucson.
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 9:15 AM, GENE KNUEPPEL via Gmclist wrote:
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> OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
> wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
> don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
> problem?
> Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
> pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
> Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
> rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
> load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
> kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower
>
> Thanks for the help and the info from this site
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341105 is a reply to message #341093] |
Sun, 17 February 2019 17:36 |
k2gkk
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16" wheels with the 225 series 16" tires will give you almost identical rolling circumference tires as the original 16.5" combination.
D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
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From: Gmclist on behalf of GENE KNUEPPEL via Gmclist
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:15
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: GENE KNUEPPEL
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
problem?
Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower
Thanks for the help and the info from this site
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> My 76 Palm Beach came with 16" steel rims and aged out tires. I replaced
> the tires and then bought Star XD aluminum wheels one pair every 6-8 weeks
> and Discount Tire swapped the new tires when the wheels came in. I ordered
> the wheels through the nearest Discount Tire. I sold the six steel rims to
> a local GMC owner for the price of one new aluminum wheel.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Bob Dunahugh
> via Gmclist
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 21:16
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Bob Dunahugh
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
>
> 3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud
> rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an
> older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can
> take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One
> man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: RE: 16" wheels.
>
> OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So
> what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a
> few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out
> schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341109 is a reply to message #341105] |
Sun, 17 February 2019 19:37 |
Emery Stora
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When I changed from 16-1/2” to 16” wheels my speedometer was only 1 or 2 mph off.
When I went to a 3.55-1 final drive I got an in line speedometer correction device that put my speed right on.
Emery Stora
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:36 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
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> 16" wheels with the 225 series 16" tires will give you almost identical rolling circumference tires as the original 16.5" combination.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of GENE KNUEPPEL via Gmclist
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:15
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: GENE KNUEPPEL
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
>
> OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
> wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
> don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
> problem?
> Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
> pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
> Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
> rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
> load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
> kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower
>
> Thanks for the help and the info from this site
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> My 76 Palm Beach came with 16" steel rims and aged out tires. I replaced
>> the tires and then bought Star XD aluminum wheels one pair every 6-8 weeks
>> and Discount Tire swapped the new tires when the wheels came in. I ordered
>> the wheels through the nearest Discount Tire. I sold the six steel rims to
>> a local GMC owner for the price of one new aluminum wheel.
>>
>> D C "Mac" Macdonald
>> Amateur Radio K2GKK
>> Since 30 November '53
>> USAF and FAA, Retired
>> Member GMCMI & Classics
>> Oklahoma City, OK
>> "The Money Pit"
>> TZE166V101966
>> '76 ex-Palm Beach
>> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Bob Dunahugh
>> via Gmclist
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 21:16
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Cc: Bob Dunahugh
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
>>
>> 3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud
>> rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an
>> older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can
>> take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One
>> man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:09 AM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: RE: 16" wheels.
>>
>> OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So
>> what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a
>> few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out
>> schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels. [message #341129 is a reply to message #341109] |
Tue, 19 February 2019 11:18 |
tphipps
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To add to your discussion, the 16" steel GMC rims will not allow you to go to 80mm calipers without some metal trimming on the caliper. 16" Alcoa's and 16" Americdan Eagles will clear the 80mm.
Tom
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