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| [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340686] |
Wed, 06 February 2019 12:12  |
Dolph Santorine
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Because inquiring minds want to know -
Summit Racing -
AAZ-55-21118H WATER PUMP NEW
Expected Arrival on 3/4/2019
That’s less definitive than “Will ship on 2/5”
I put it on this order because the other $80 part I bought was heavy, and this made it “Free Shipping"
I don’t think I’ll hold my breath.
Anyone actually see one of the puppies in the wild
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340693 is a reply to message #340692] |
Wed, 06 February 2019 17:51  |
Dolph Santorine
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I want to see one in a box in the hands of a delivery driver in my driveway!
Dolph Santorine
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Wed, 06 February 2019 13:12
>> Because inquiring minds want to know -
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>> Summit Racing -
>> AAZ-55-21118H WATER PUMP NEW
>> Expected Arrival on 3/4/2019
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>> Anyone actually see one of the puppies in the wild
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>> Dolph
>
> Dolph,
>
> If you mean see that pump?
> That is what I put back when I finished the rebuild on my main engine.
>
> You can't see it now, it is in the coach and it is cold out there.
>
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340694 is a reply to message #340693] |
Wed, 06 February 2019 19:41 |
Ethan James
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My order got bumped too. I got one from Advance because they had one in
stock locally and according to them it's made by cardone but doesn't look
like the pictures of the cardone one. I figured I can return the advance
one if they actually ship it.
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Ethan James
1976 Glenbrook "Rosie"
Roanoke, VA
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 6:52 PM Adolph Santorine
wrote:
> I want to see one in a box in the hands of a delivery driver in my
> driveway!
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> Dolph Santorine
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> DE AD0LF
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> Wheeling, West Virginia
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> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>
>
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
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>> Dolph Santorine wrote on Wed, 06 February 2019 13:12
>>> Because inquiring minds want to know -
>>>
>>> Summit Racing -
>>> AAZ-55-21118H WATER PUMP NEW
>>> Expected Arrival on 3/4/2019
>>>
>>> Anyone actually see one of the puppies in the wild
>>>
>>> Dolph
>>
>> Dolph,
>>
>> If you mean see that pump?
>> That is what I put back when I finished the rebuild on my main engine.
>>
>> You can't see it now, it is in the coach and it is cold out there.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340702 is a reply to message #340686] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 04:11 |
jhbridges
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'Anyone actually see one of the puppies in the wild?'
Yeah. Cardone makes them new. I have one in the box from whomever was the best deal. Adcvance, I think. Bought it a few months ago when Pryor researched them.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340751 is a reply to message #340702] |
Fri, 08 February 2019 10:39 |
Bill Van Vlack
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When I researched this a few weeks ago.....
- Summit showed 2/4 availability, but by phone did not know when they'll receive them to ship.
- Cardone is the only supplier of these, and does not manufacture them but rather buys them from someone. They did not know when they'd receive them to ship and suggested I call a dealer to see if they have one in stock.
- Advance, one of Cardone's dealers, told me via Customer Assistance that Carquest (now owned by Advance) sells this pump under part number #T3086 and that they take it out of the Cardone box and put it into a Carquest box.
- A local Carquest store found two in stock at their Portland warehouse and has ordered one for me. $44.98.
- I now have it in my hands. There are no part numbers stamped in the casting. It has a large impeller with an endplate.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340771 is a reply to message #340751] |
Fri, 08 February 2019 22:26 |
JerryW
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Out of curiosity, I ordered the Advance version. It was $44, but I had a 25% off coupon making it $33, then a Speed Perks coupon that made it $13, shipped. I received confirmation that it shipped tonight. I will keep y’all posted, and post some pictures.
On a related note, a ‘78 coach engine would be Corporate Blue, correct? I will need to paint the pump.
-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
> On Feb 8, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Bill Van Vlack via Gmclist wrote:
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> When I researched this a few weeks ago.....
> - Summit showed 2/4 availability, but by phone did not know when they'll receive them to ship.
> - Cardone is the only supplier of these, and does not manufacture them but rather buys them from someone. They did not know when they'd receive them
> to ship and suggested I call a dealer to see if they have one in stock.
> - Advance, one of Cardone's dealers, told me via Customer Assistance that Carquest (now owned by Advance) sells this pump under part number #T3086 and
> that they take it out of the Cardone box and put it into a Carquest box.
> - A local Carquest store found two in stock at their Portland warehouse and has ordered one for me. $44.98.
> - I now have it in my hands. There are no part numbers stamped in the casting. It has a large impeller with an endplate.
> --
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
> November 2015.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340781 is a reply to message #340751] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 09:12 |
JerryW
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These are the pumps with the roller bearings, right? I hope so—I found one
at a local Advance and just paid for it. Should have it in hand when I pick
it up later today. My current pump is new but a standard, not premium pump
and this one will go in the replacement cycle.
Rick “have Paypal, will pay” Denney
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 1:24 PM Bill Van Vlack via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> When I researched this a few weeks ago.....
> - Summit showed 2/4 availability, but by phone did not know when they'll
> receive them to ship.
> - Cardone is the only supplier of these, and does not manufacture them but
> rather buys them from someone. They did not know when they'd receive them
> to ship and suggested I call a dealer to see if they have one in stock.
> - Advance, one of Cardone's dealers, told me via Customer Assistance that
> Carquest (now owned by Advance) sells this pump under part number #T3086 and
> that they take it out of the Cardone box and put it into a Carquest box.
> - A local Carquest store found two in stock at their Portland warehouse
> and has ordered one for me. $44.98.
> - I now have it in my hands. There are no part numbers stamped in the
> casting. It has a large impeller with an endplate.
> --
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o
> mid
> November 2015.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340787 is a reply to message #340686] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 10:27 |
jhbridges
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Rick, the giveaway is the part number. The roller bearing one's number has an H at the end for heavy duty. Number is the same otherwise. Without the H, you get ball bearings front and back.
NOTE - Some computer software treats these as identical, even though internally they aren't. Be careful, look for the H.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340861 is a reply to message #340702] |
Sun, 10 February 2019 15:18 |
JerryW
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I have over 12,000 miles on them . I am using the Electric Fan Clutch.
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 2:12 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> 'Anyone actually see one of the puppies in the wild?'
>
> Yeah. Cardone makes them new. I have one in the box from whomever was
> the best deal. Adcvance, I think. Bought it a few months ago when Pryor
> researched them.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340950 is a reply to message #340771] |
Tue, 12 February 2019 17:33 |
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The Advance Auto T3086 version of the Cardone Select 55-21118H pump arrived this afternoon. I'll take some pictures of the bearings etc. when I get home from work.
-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 11:27 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Dave Stragand
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump
Out of curiosity, I ordered the Advance version. It was $44, but I had a 25% off coupon making it $33, then a Speed Perks coupon that made it $13, shipped. I received confirmation that it shipped tonight. I will keep y’all posted, and post some pictures.
-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
> On Feb 8, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Bill Van Vlack via Gmclist wrote:
>
> - Advance, one of Cardone's dealers, told me via Customer Assistance that Carquest (now owned by Advance) sells this pump under part number #T3086 and
> that they take it out of the Cardone box and put it into a Carquest box.
>
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
> November 2015.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340953 is a reply to message #340950] |
Tue, 12 February 2019 19:31 |
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Okay, the pics are up at:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
So how can we tell if it's the good roller bearing version?
Thanks,
-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist on behalf of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
Sent: Tue 2/12/2019 6:33 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Dave Stragand
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump
The Advance Auto T3086 version of the Cardone Select 55-21118H pump arrived this afternoon. I'll take some pictures of the bearings etc. when I get home from work.
-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 11:27 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Dave Stragand
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump
Out of curiosity, I ordered the Advance version. It was $44, but I had a 25% off coupon making it $33, then a Speed Perks coupon that made it $13, shipped. I received confirmation that it shipped tonight. I will keep y'all posted, and post some pictures.
-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
> On Feb 8, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Bill Van Vlack via Gmclist wrote:
>
> - Advance, one of Cardone's dealers, told me via Customer Assistance that Carquest (now owned by Advance) sells this pump under part number #T3086 and
> that they take it out of the Cardone box and put it into a Carquest box.
>
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
> November 2015.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340958 is a reply to message #340953] |
Tue, 12 February 2019 23:25 |
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The end of the shaft is stamped R637. The fan mounting flange has 1822318C laser etched on it. I just added a couple of pictures to the earlier album showing these markings.
According to Tom Pryor’s post on January 23, the “R” signifies roller bearings, so it may indeed be correct that it’s a reboxed version of the Cardone 55-21118H.
If someone has a Cardone version handy, could you please let us know if the shaft face at the fan side has similar markings?
Other identifying marks on this T3086 casting would be “A-02” cast into the face on one side, and a symbol like a spoked wheel with an “8” or “B” in the center on the other side (see photos).
-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dave Stragand via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Okay, the pics are up at:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
>
> So how can we tell if it's the good roller bearing version?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Dave
> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
> Sent: Tue 2/12/2019 6:33 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Dave Stragand
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump
>
> The Advance Auto T3086 version of the Cardone Select 55-21118H pump arrived this afternoon. I'll take some pictures of the bearings etc. when I get home from work.
>
> -Dave
> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 11:27 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Dave Stragand
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump
>
> Out of curiosity, I ordered the Advance version. It was $44, but I had a 25% off coupon making it $33, then a Speed Perks coupon that made it $13, shipped. I received confirmation that it shipped tonight. I will keep y'all posted, and post some pictures.
>
> -Dave
> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>
>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Bill Van Vlack via Gmclist wrote:
>>
>> - Advance, one of Cardone's dealers, told me via Customer Assistance that Carquest (now owned by Advance) sells this pump under part number #T3086 and
>> that they take it out of the Cardone box and put it into a Carquest box.
>>
>> Bill Van Vlack
>> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
>> November 2015.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #340959 is a reply to message #340958] |
Tue, 12 February 2019 23:45 |
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8 B is date coding for the casting. Likely February 2018.
I didn’t get any hits for the rest of the numbers.
Allegedly, 3-7 for one in my hand.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:25 AM, Dave Stragand via Gmclist wrote:
>
> The end of the shaft is stamped R637. The fan mounting flange has 1822318C laser etched on it. I just added a couple of pictures to the earlier album showing these markings.
>
> According to Tom Pryor’s post on January 23, the “R” signifies roller bearings, so it may indeed be correct that it’s a reboxed version of the Cardone 55-21118H.
>
> If someone has a Cardone version handy, could you please let us know if the shaft face at the fan side has similar markings?
>
> Other identifying marks on this T3086 casting would be “A-02” cast into the face on one side, and a symbol like a spoked wheel with an “8” or “B” in the center on the other side (see photos).
>
> -Dave
> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>
>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dave Stragand via Gmclist wrote:
>>
>> Okay, the pics are up at:
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
>>
>> So how can we tell if it's the good roller bearing version?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Dave
>> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
>> Sent: Tue 2/12/2019 6:33 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Cc: Dave Stragand
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump
>>
>> The Advance Auto T3086 version of the Cardone Select 55-21118H pump arrived this afternoon. I'll take some pictures of the bearings etc. when I get home from work.
>>
>> -Dave
>> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 11:27 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Cc: Dave Stragand
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump
>>
>> Out of curiosity, I ordered the Advance version. It was $44, but I had a 25% off coupon making it $33, then a Speed Perks coupon that made it $13, shipped. I received confirmation that it shipped tonight. I will keep y'all posted, and post some pictures.
>>
>> -Dave
>> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Bill Van Vlack via Gmclist wrote:
>>>
>>> - Advance, one of Cardone's dealers, told me via Customer Assistance that Carquest (now owned by Advance) sells this pump under part number #T3086 and
>>> that they take it out of the Cardone box and put it into a Carquest box.
>>>
>>> Bill Van Vlack
>>> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
>>> November 2015.
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #341141 is a reply to message #340958] |
Tue, 19 February 2019 18:23 |
Rick Staples
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Dave wrote;
"If someone has a Cardone version handy, could you please let us know if the shaft face at the fan side has similar markings?"
Well guys, I went out to the (very cold) barn and retrieved my genuine Cardone 55-2118H pump which I got from Rock Auto a couple months ago. (Ordered by make and part number. Was back-ordered several months, but you can ask to be notified when available, so I got one when I could.) Box has Cardone's own label on it, UPC number is 0 82617 71854 7. BTW, for those who worry over such things, it is "made in china". 
Anyhoo, I'm afraid it doesn't look much like the pictures posted online. The heater/bypass hose fittings are pressed-in steel, and the impeller is closed-face and a full 4 1/4" diameter. The fan flange has nothing stamped on it, but does bear a sticker bearing "5521118H", "inspected by" "BH24169" "NEW", also one of those square ink-blots meant to be read by a smart phone (sorry, my phone's smart but I's not) and at right angles to the above, the long (serial?) number "201808025551030".
The end of the shaft is stamped "WP1938165" opposite the number "3". In the center is a grinding mark which appears to be etched with "CH2".
HTH
Rick Staples
very early (has 1974 engine and carburetor) '75 Eleganza
Rick Staples, '75 Eleganza, Johnstown, CO
"Advice is a dangerous gift, even from the Wise to the Wise, and all paths may run ill." -Tolkien
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #341146 is a reply to message #341141] |
Wed, 20 February 2019 02:51 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030
Registered: January 2004
Location: Hebron, Indiana
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You guys shamed me enough to do the same thing.
I stopped by the airport tonight and found my new spare Cardone Select pump still sealed in a plastic wrapper. The whole thing was oiled so it should not rust outside of the wrapper. I did not have a camera with me so a verbal description is all you get. Mine matches almost exactly what Rick said. Some additional things are: there is a number stamped (NOT CAST) into the front casting going toward the radiator hose outlet. It is: S21118H 1612282. The impeller has 6 impellers covered with a 4.5" OD disk. The box says made new in China. With a red, black, and white Cardone Select label.
That is about all I have to add.
Ken B.
Rick Staples wrote on Tue, 19 February 2019 18:23Dave wrote;
"If someone has a Cardone version handy, could you please let us know if the shaft face at the fan side has similar markings?"
Well guys, I went out to the (very cold) barn and retrieved my genuine Cardone 55-2118H pump which I got from Rock Auto a couple months ago. (Ordered by make and part number. Was back-ordered several months, but you can ask to be notified when available, so I got one when I could.) Box has Cardone's own label on it, UPC number is 0 82617 71854 7. BTW, for those who worry over such things, it is "made in china".
Anyhoo, I'm afraid it doesn't look much like the pictures posted online. The heater/bypass hose fittings are pressed-in steel, and the impeller is closed-face and a full 4 1/4" diameter. The fan flange has nothing stamped on it, but does bear a sticker bearing "5521118H", "inspected by" "BH24169" "NEW", also one of those square ink-blots meant to be read by a smart phone (sorry, my phone's smart but I's not) and at right angles to the above, the long (serial?) number "201808025551030".
The end of the shaft is stamped "WP1938165" opposite the number "3". In the center is a grinding mark which appears to be etched with "CH2".
HTH
Rick Staples
very early (has 1974 engine and carburetor) '75 Eleganza
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #341739 is a reply to message #341146] |
Sat, 16 March 2019 01:07 |
Bill Van Vlack
Messages: 419
Registered: September 2015
Location: Guemes Island, Washington
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I recently bought the #T3086 Water Pump from CarQuest after speaking with the Advance Auto Parts factory rep, who said that CarQuest is selling the Cardone heavy duty pump under that part number.
The CarQuest pump has 6 impellers covered with a 4.5" OD disk and has the number WR1938165 stamped on the end of the shaft.
Matt Colie suggested that that number may indicate the bearing, so I searched and found a description here.... https://hkbearings.tradeindia.com/water-pump-bearing-2884590.html, and here... https://m.alibaba.com/product/60701177993/Auto-Bearing-koyo-W7R112B-Water-Pump.html...that confirm it is a roller/ball bearing.
This (mostly) agrees with Rick Staples report of a Cardone 55-2118H with WP1938165 stamped on the shaft. I was not able to find a bearing online with that number, and suspect that the 'P' was really an 'R' (they are small numbers and hard to read. I used my samsung android microscope)
So that's enough for me. Hopefully CQ still has them in stock for those who are waiting for Summit or other sources.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #341743 is a reply to message #341742] |
Sat, 16 March 2019 09:53 |
James Hupy
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Registered: May 2010
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I might have mentioned this before, but, buyer beware. If you have a pump
that was giving you good service and failed due to age, and has all the
features you deem vitally important, (impeller, roller bearings, matching
gaskets, outlets, etc) remove it and take it with you to your parts store
of choice and match it up. Numbers lie, so does packaging. I bought 5 pumps
for a seminar at a rally, all with the same part number. They were all
different from each other. One was correct, 4 were not. Such is the state
of parts supplies.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 7:22 AM Dave Stragand via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Advance apparently has multiple suppliers for that pump, as the T3086 I
> received was a very different pump. Check out some of the pictures at
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
> and note how the hose nipples on this unit are part of the casting instead
> of a
> pressed-in pipe. The one I received also had a smaller impeller &
> different bearings.
> --
> 1978 Transmode (403)
> Pittsburgh, PA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump [message #341744 is a reply to message #341743] |
Sat, 16 March 2019 13:44 |
Dolph Santorine
Messages: 1236
Registered: April 2011
Location: Wheeling, WV
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A bit more than a year ago, a young friend from the car community (he’s helped me with my coach) went to work as a buyer at a national auto parts chain. The job was in Roanoke, VA (a bit of a move for him).
He has excellent skills, and his vehicles show it. He’s a real mechanic, a bit of a machinist, knows which end of the voltmeter to hold on to, and is well written and read. B.S.B.A, and a slew of certifications. Smart, resourceful, completely unafraid of asking questions when he does not know, and likable.
About a week after he transferred to the home office, he called and said “I’m in a bull pen in an old circuit city store with about 30 buyers. I think I’m the only one who can change my own oil. They looked at my micrometer and digital calipers with awe. Few of them had ever used them. Part number and price chasers, with no interest in quality”
This is one of the chains you probably have been to. Their CEO’s sole qualification to be at the helm is that he sold sugar water, and gives good powerpoint, and Starboard Value LP thinks he can improve the bottom line for a few quarters so they can bail out of their position.
He changed jobs shortly thereafter.
Such is the state of auto parts supply right now.
Sorry about being harsh, but it’s how I see it.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:53 AM, James Hupy via Gmclist wrote:
>
> I might have mentioned this before, but, buyer beware. If you have a pump
> that was giving you good service and failed due to age, and has all the
> features you deem vitally important, (impeller, roller bearings, matching
> gaskets, outlets, etc) remove it and take it with you to your parts store
> of choice and match it up. Numbers lie, so does packaging. I bought 5 pumps
> for a seminar at a rally, all with the same part number. They were all
> different from each other. One was correct, 4 were not. Such is the state
> of parts supplies.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 7:22 AM Dave Stragand via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Advance apparently has multiple suppliers for that pump, as the T3086 I
>> received was a very different pump. Check out some of the pictures at
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
>> and note how the hose nipples on this unit are part of the casting instead
>> of a
>> pressed-in pipe. The one I received also had a smaller impeller &
>> different bearings.
>> --
>> 1978 Transmode (403)
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>>
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>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
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