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Recharging starting battery [message #340236] Mon, 21 January 2019 19:32 Go to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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I know I was told I could charge my starter battery from my isolator, just don't remember which post on there I clamp to while I'm plugged in?

Thanks in advance!
Tom
76 Eleganza 2
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Re: [GMCnet] Recharging starting battery [message #340239 is a reply to message #340236] Mon, 21 January 2019 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Tom,

Clipping across the OUTER two terminals of the isolator, or the two large
terminals on the boost relay, will connect the chassis and starting
batteries directly in parallel.

The caution to know is that either battery, if discharged, will take the
other one right along with it. If you're boondocking and use up "all" of
"the" battery, you'll have to jump start the coach. You MAY have enough
energy let you start the Onan, which will then allow your converter to
eventually recharge both batteries (while they're still connected).

HTH,

Ken H.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:03 PM tom geiger wrote:

> I know I was told I could charge my starter battery from my isolator, just
> don't remember which post on there I clamp to while I'm plugged in?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Tom
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Re: Recharging starting battery [message #340256 is a reply to message #340236] Tue, 22 January 2019 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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While jumpering the top and bottom terminals. One word work of caution is in order. Use a small gauge jumper. (A 18 or 16 gauge Jumper is all that I needed to carry charging current which will be low. If one of the batteries were to internally short, having a heavy wire will allow high current to flow between the batteries and usually blow up one of them. A thin jumper on the other hand will simply burn in half like a fuse and protect the two batteries. I have one of those jumper wires hanging unattached under the hood near the isolator just in case I need it. I have never needed it in 15 years but sometimes I install it when the coach is parked for months over the winter. I do not remember if I put it on this winter not.

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Re: [GMCnet] Recharging starting battery [message #340258 is a reply to message #340256] Tue, 22 January 2019 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Or use a combiner





On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:42 AM Ken Burton wrote:

> While jumpering the top and bottom terminals. One word work of caution is
> in order. Use a small gauge jumper. (A 18 or 16 gauge Jumper is all that I
> needed to carry charging current which will be low. If one of the
> batteries were to internally short, having a heavy wire will allow high
> current to
> flow between the batteries and usually blow up one of them. A thin jumper
> on the other hand will simply burn in half like a fuse and protect the two
> batteries. I have one of those jumper wires hanging unattached under the
> hood near the isolator just in case I need it. I have never needed it in 15
> years but sometimes I install it when the coach is parked for months over
> the winter. I do not remember if I put it on this winter not.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Recharging starting battery [message #340261 is a reply to message #340258] Tue, 22 January 2019 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
johnd01 is currently offline  johnd01   United States
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I put the jumper in to keep my batteries charged if when I am not going to
use the coach for a while and plug the coach in. My problem is that my
PD9270 shorted out and the light existence cord I used acted like a fuse
more than 2 months after I plugged it in last time. It did not trip the 20
amp breaker in my main panel or the 15 amp breaker feeding the PD9270. Now
the chassis battery and 3 house batteries are 0 volts. The Generator
starting battery is ok. That is the only battery I did not replace a year
ago.
John Phillips
75 Avion
Sacramento Ca.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:49 AM gene Fisher wrote:

> Or use a combiner
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:42 AM Ken Burton wrote:
>
>> While jumpering the top and bottom terminals. One word work of caution
> is
>> in order. Use a small gauge jumper. (A 18 or 16 gauge Jumper is all
> that I
>> needed to carry charging current which will be low. If one of the
>> batteries were to internally short, having a heavy wire will allow high
>> current to
>> flow between the batteries and usually blow up one of them. A thin
> jumper
>> on the other hand will simply burn in half like a fuse and protect the
> two
>> batteries. I have one of those jumper wires hanging unattached under the
>> hood near the isolator just in case I need it. I have never needed it
> in 15
>> years but sometimes I install it when the coach is parked for months over
>> the winter. I do not remember if I put it on this winter not.
>> --
>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Hebron, Indiana
>>
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Re: Recharging starting battery [message #340266 is a reply to message #340236] Tue, 22 January 2019 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Your start battery already charges through your isolator. You mean which terminal to clip on a trickle or something? Just trace the wires. Not a wise answer-- easy to follow

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Recharging starting battery [message #340268 is a reply to message #340266] Tue, 22 January 2019 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you have TWO "trickle" chargers (i.e., Battery Minder or Battery Tender) clip one charger on each terminal of the isolator. If the isolator is good, your house and vehicle batteries SHOULD be kept in good condition as long as there is no parasitic hidden drain on those batteries.

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Your start battery already charges through your isolator. You mean which terminal to clip on a trickle or something? Just trace the wires. Not a
wise answer-- easy to follow
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II


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Re: Recharging starting battery [message #340278 is a reply to message #340236] Tue, 22 January 2019 20:32 Go to previous message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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I just remembered I had bought a Combiner several years back, and I'll just need to figure out where I put it. Sounds like the safer way to go. I do have a small gauge jumper wire I store near the battery, just have not used it for awhile.

So its on the hunt for where I stashed it.

Thanks,
Tom


Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
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