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Fri, 07 September 2018 07:16  |
Mike Kilroy
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Does anyone have an autocad drawing of our GMC tanks? They will mold us duplicates! They would never wear out or rust out. If price remains around $300 I would buy in a heartbeat! MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) of 10 means my two and 4 others could benefit too.
From: "Irene"
To: "Mike Kilroy"
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:05:35 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
Hello Mike,
Yes, we can quote according to your design with material, weight, dimension details. You could send the design for our engineer to check first and will let you know if need more information.
Also we can develop mold for you based on your design or sample.
The quotation sent to you yesterday is calculated according to MOQ 10 pcs, as you mentioned 10 pcs in previous enquiry. If your qty is more, the price will be lower accordingly.
Regarding certificate, one of our clients took our oil tank sample to do EPA and passed. But we haven't got it. I will send to you once available.
Waiting for your design.
Thank you
Xiamen Mellow Rotomolding Co., Ltd
Marketing Sales: Irene Leung
Email: [ mailto:sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com | sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com ]
Tel :+86 133 0602 2875
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From: [ mailto:mike@kilroywashere.com | mike kilroy ]
Date: 2018-09-06 21:17
To: [ mailto:sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com | Irene ]
Subject: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
Thank you. They are close but not close enough to what we require.
Would you quote a NEW design for us if we sent you details? If so, what details would you require?
With a MOQ of say 10pc?
Are your tanks certified by any USA government agency for safety or highway use?
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| Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed [message #336804 is a reply to message #336801] |
Fri, 07 September 2018 08:05  |
powwerjon
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Mike,
This is an interesting development and I think that all would be interested in the costing structure. I think that you could sell out the first 10 very quickly and if you opened up for a larger production run with preorders to cover cost you might be able to reduce the cost even more.
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
TZE Zone Restorations
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Mike Kilroy wrote:
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> Does anyone have an autocad drawing of our GMC tanks? They will mold us duplicates! They would never wear out or rust out. If price remains around $300 I would buy in a heartbeat! MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) of 10 means my two and 4 others could benefit too.
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> From: "Irene"
> To: "Mike Kilroy"
> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:05:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
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> Hello Mike,
>
> Yes, we can quote according to your design with material, weight, dimension details. You could send the design for our engineer to check first and will let you know if need more information.
> Also we can develop mold for you based on your design or sample.
>
> The quotation sent to you yesterday is calculated according to MOQ 10 pcs, as you mentioned 10 pcs in previous enquiry. If your qty is more, the price will be lower accordingly.
>
> Regarding certificate, one of our clients took our oil tank sample to do EPA and passed. But we haven't got it. I will send to you once available.
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> Waiting for your design.
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> Thank you
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> Xiamen Mellow Rotomolding Co., Ltd
> Marketing Sales: Irene Leung
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> Email: [ mailto:sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com | sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com ]
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> Tel :+86 133 0602 2875
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> Wechat:+ 86 180 6095 2662
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> URL: www.mellow-rotomolding.com
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> From: [ mailto:mike@kilroywashere.com | mike kilroy ]
> Date: 2018-09-06 21:17
> To: [ mailto:sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com | Irene ]
> Subject: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
> Thank you. They are close but not close enough to what we require.
>
> Would you quote a NEW design for us if we sent you details? If so, what details would you require?
>
> With a MOQ of say 10pc?
>
> Are your tanks certified by any USA government agency for safety or highway use?
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| Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed [message #336805 is a reply to message #336804] |
Fri, 07 September 2018 08:31 |
Ken Henderson
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I see lots of possible problems though:
1. The inlet fitting must be precisely located and robust enough to
withstand the rigors of installation and hose clamping force.
2. The area around the essential drain plug must be reinforced adequately
and have metal threaded plate included. Same for the outlet for the "Onan"
supply.
3. There must be a flange included for the fuel level sender/vent/supply
lines, preferably compatible with the GM flange lock.
4. Will the plastic be strong enough to withstand the fuel load supported
only by the two cross-straps? Or will a reinforcing plate be needed? How
long will the plastic tolerate the abrasion of the straps?
5. IIRC, the flange on one side of the metal tank provides part of the
support -- can the plastic do without that?
I'm hoping to never need one, but I hope this works out well for everyone
else. :-)
Ken H.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:06 AM John Wright wrote:
> Mike,
> This is an interesting development and I think that all would be
> interested in the costing structure. I think that you could sell out the
> first 10 very quickly and if you opened up for a larger production run with
> preorders to cover cost you might be able to reduce the cost even more.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed [message #336806 is a reply to message #336805] |
Fri, 07 September 2018 08:47 |
GMC.LES
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My concerns are also how the plastic tank will resist sag over time. Such a long thin tank supported using the factory mounting methods will likely sag from the weight and potential high heat of southern roads. A revised mounting method may be required.
Regarding abrasion, many cars use straps, and as long as those straps are tightly clamping the tank, movement would be minimal. There obviously can’t be any sharp edges on the straps or other mounting surfaces.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
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> I see lots of possible problems though:
>
> 1. The inlet fitting must be precisely located and robust enough to
> withstand the rigors of installation and hose clamping force.
>
> 2. The area around the essential drain plug must be reinforced adequately
> and have metal threaded plate included. Same for the outlet for the "Onan"
> supply.
>
> 3. There must be a flange included for the fuel level sender/vent/supply
> lines, preferably compatible with the GM flange lock.
>
> 4. Will the plastic be strong enough to withstand the fuel load supported
> only by the two cross-straps? Or will a reinforcing plate be needed? How
> long will the plastic tolerate the abrasion of the straps?
>
> 5. IIRC, the flange on one side of the metal tank provides part of the
> support -- can the plastic do without that?
>
> I'm hoping to never need one, but I hope this works out well for everyone
> else. :-)
>
> Ken H.
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>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:06 AM John Wright wrote:
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>> Mike,
>> This is an interesting development and I think that all would be
>> interested in the costing structure. I think that you could sell out the
>> first 10 very quickly and if you opened up for a larger production run with
>> preorders to cover cost you might be able to reduce the cost even more.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed [message #336809 is a reply to message #336801] |
Fri, 07 September 2018 11:32 |
jessfarr
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Why not check MOQ of 50 (25 of us) ?
jofarr, soddy TN - 3 26'
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From: Mike Kilroy
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Sent: 9/7/2018 8:16:49 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed
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Does anyone have an autocad drawing of our GMC tanks? They will mold us duplicates! They would never wear out or rust out. If price remains around $300 I would buy in a heartbeat! MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) of 10 means my two and 4 others could benefit too.
From: "Irene"
To: "Mike Kilroy"
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:05:35 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
Hello Mike,
Yes, we can quote according to your design with material, weight, dimension details. You could send the design for our engineer to check first and will let you know if need more information.
Also we can develop mold for you based on your design or sample.
The quotation sent to you yesterday is calculated according to MOQ 10 pcs, as you mentioned 10 pcs in previous enquiry. If your qty is more, the price will be lower accordingly.
Regarding certificate, one of our clients took our oil tank sample to do EPA and passed. But we haven't got it. I will send to you once available.
Waiting for your design.
Thank you
Xiamen Mellow Rotomolding Co., Ltd
Marketing Sales: Irene Leung
Email: [ mailto:sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com | sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com ]
Tel :+86 133 0602 2875
Wechat:+ 86 180 6095 2662
URL: www.mellow-rotomolding.com
From: [ mailto:mike@kilroywashere.com | mike kilroy ]
Date: 2018-09-06 21:17
To: [ mailto:sale91@mellow-rotomolding.com | Irene ]
Subject: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
Thank you. They are close but not close enough to what we require.
Would you quote a NEW design for us if we sent you details? If so, what details would you require?
With a MOQ of say 10pc?
Are your tanks certified by any USA government agency for safety or highway use?
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| Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed [message #336817 is a reply to message #336801] |
Fri, 07 September 2018 16:22 |
jhbridges
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I'd do them like Norris did the plastic black tank in my 23' Stanmdard straps and then slide a piece of 1/16 sheet metal between the straps and tank. Supported it just fine.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed [message #336818 is a reply to message #336801] |
Fri, 07 September 2018 17:39 |
JohnL455
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50!? How about MOQ of 1 sample first. Having ventured into reproducing car parts, I can say the number of corrections to the first sample can be daunting. And then having those changes effect other design issues comes into the picture. This is a tough one as most GM tanks, metal or plastic have all the I/O covered by the sending unit (other than fill).
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed [message #336824 is a reply to message #336818] |
Sat, 08 September 2018 11:09 |
GMC.LES
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I think that 1 sample for evaluation is wise, but obtaining a quote for future orders in qtys of 25, 50, & 100 would certainly help with organizing a group purchase. If higher numbers produce substantially lower costs, I’d bet some of the gmc specialty shops would buy in on the deal.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:39 PM, John R. Lebetski wrote:
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> 50!? How about MOQ of 1 sample first. Having ventured into reproducing car parts, I can say the number of corrections to the first sample can be
> daunting. And then having those changes effect other design issues comes into the picture. This is a tough one as most GM tanks, metal or plastic
> have all the I/O covered by the sending unit (other than fill).
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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