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| Re: Save the GMC Molds! [message #336358 is a reply to message #336260] |
Fri, 24 August 2018 18:52   |
jhbridges
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Yeh, if you're doing hand or gun layup They probably ought to be stacked in a back room someplace, is that the current idea?
--johnny
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336367 is a reply to message #336358] |
Fri, 24 August 2018 21:10 |
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I saw those years ago you’d need an extremely large back room to store them.
Emery Stora
> On Aug 24, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
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> Yeh, if you're doing hand or gun layup They probably ought to be stacked in a back room someplace, is that the current idea?
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> --johnny
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> --johnny
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> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336368 is a reply to message #336367] |
Sat, 25 August 2018 09:25 |
James Hupy
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That looks like a very "deep pockets" undertaking. Starting with a blank
piece of computer screen, and a hyperactive imagination and more modern
materials, just dream what could be done. We know all the pitfalls already.
Most are related to the drive train.
Interior materials have come a long way, baby. But the shape of the
outside needs nothing. It would take a whole truckload of benjamins, with
little hope for recovery.
Still, that never stopped Tucker, or John Delorean, or E.L. Cord, or
Ransom Olds, or a whole bunch of others. It is what makes AMERICA great.
Why Not?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 7:12 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I saw those years ago you’d need an extremely large back room to store
> them.
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> Emery Stora
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>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Yeh, if you're doing hand or gun layup They probably ought to be
> stacked in a back room someplace, is that the current idea?
>>
>> --johnny
>>
>> --johnny
>> --
>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
> me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336370 is a reply to message #336368] |
Sat, 25 August 2018 09:57 |
richshoop
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It is a deep pockets adventure, not undertaking. Every single advance defies the statistics that say it will fail. I'm putting some money where my mouth is.
> On August 25, 2018 at 7:25 AM James Hupy wrote:
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> That looks like a very "deep pockets" undertaking. Starting with a blank
> piece of computer screen, and a hyperactive imagination and more modern
> materials, just dream what could be done. We know all the pitfalls already.
> Most are related to the drive train.
> Interior materials have come a long way, baby. But the shape of the
> outside needs nothing. It would take a whole truckload of benjamins, with
> little hope for recovery.
> Still, that never stopped Tucker, or John Delorean, or E.L. Cord, or
> Ransom Olds, or a whole bunch of others. It is what makes AMERICA great.
> Why Not?
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 7:12 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> I saw those years ago you’d need an extremely large back room to store
>> them.
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>> Emery Stora
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>>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Yeh, if you're doing hand or gun layup They probably ought to be
>> stacked in a back room someplace, is that the current idea?
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>> --
>>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
>> me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>>>
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336371 is a reply to message #336370] |
Sat, 25 August 2018 11:39 |
Bill Van Vlack
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Good for a museum display. Maybe a new GMC museum at Powerland, Jim H.? Just need to get an order in for some steam sawn lumber for the building.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336372 is a reply to message #336371] |
Sat, 25 August 2018 11:51 |
James Hupy
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That is a very possible undertaking. The steam powered circular saw mill at
antique powerland has cut a lot of the lumber for the wood clad museums
(14) at last count on the grounds. Those guys love that kind of a project.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 9:40 AM Bill Van Vlack
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> Good for a museum display. Maybe a new GMC museum at
> http://www.antiquepowerland.com/, Jim H.? Just need to get an order in
> for some steam sawn lumber
> for the building.
> --
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o
> mid
> November 2015.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336378 is a reply to message #336372] |
Sat, 25 August 2018 20:16 |
jimk
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Those molds were offered to me for just moving them out of the storace lot.
I did some calling around and realized the cost of storage was going to be
a on going cost and they need to be reconditiond as they have been out in
the elements.
To get the GMC community to chip in is a task in itself as I have learned
twice.
The last wass a fund raiser for the CMTA Foundation for the World Speed
record attempt.
Ans the other was to raise funds for the GMC List sight support.
We would put up few thousand dollars of prizes for a donation drawing as
were not allowed to have a raffe.
I recalled we received tremendous donated help from Steve and Nancy
Fuergason(sp) and others.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 9:50 AM James Hupy wrote:
> That is a very possible undertaking. The steam powered circular saw mill at
> antique powerland has cut a lot of the lumber for the wood clad museums
> (14) at last count on the grounds. Those guys love that kind of a project.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
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> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 9:40 AM Bill Van Vlack
> wrote:
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>> Good for a museum display. Maybe a new GMC museum at
>> http://www.antiquepowerland.com/, Jim H.? Just need to get an order in
>> for some steam sawn lumber
>> for the building.
>> --
>> Bill Van Vlack
>> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
>> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner
> a/o
>> mid
>> November 2015.
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| Re: Save the GMC Molds! [message #336757 is a reply to message #336260] |
Wed, 05 September 2018 14:56 |
jhbridges
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What would it cost to have someone who knew what they were doing meet up with the molds and get a really good scan of each and reduce them to a set of files. Surely in this world there's an outfit capable of doing this.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336763 is a reply to message #336757] |
Wed, 05 September 2018 16:00 |
Olly Schmidt
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On 05.09.2018 21:56, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
> What would it cost to have someone who knew what they were doing meet
> up with the molds and get a really good scan of each and reduce them
> to a set of files. Surely in this world there's an outfit capable of
> doing this.
Great idea! And seeing that handheld 3D scanners capable of scanning
stuff up to 6' x 6' x 6' for less than 2 fill-ups in Germany, I am
pretty sure someone in the FL (or whereever the current molds are),
could get this done in a day or two per mold.
--
Best regards
Peer Oliver Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336776 is a reply to message #336775] |
Wed, 05 September 2018 21:14 |
powwerjon
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There are number of tail light assemblies that are available. I sell a set of LED tail light assemblies, out of all new parts. As for headlights there are replacement single round and single square lighting units available.
I will be at the Fall convention with a number of tail light assemblies for sale.
J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 10:07 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:
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> Don't know about the taillights, but Jim Bounds has found LED headlights to fit the GMC coach.
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> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
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> From: Gmclist on behalf of RICHARD/MARLI SHOOP
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds!
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> I would definitely be interested in modern, higher light output headlights and taillights.
>> On September 4, 2018 at 8:00 PM Richard Michelhaugh wrote:
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>> Would anyone out there be interested in new modern headlights and taillights that fit in the same holes on the GMC?
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>> What would be your price point?
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>> mailto:Rickhaugh@hotmail.com
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>> Rick M.
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>> 1974 26' Canyonlands
>> aka "The General"
>> Clinton, TN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336778 is a reply to message #336770] |
Wed, 05 September 2018 23:28 |
Olly Schmidt
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Morning Emery,
On 06.09.2018 01:49, Emery Stora via Gmclist wrote:
> Are you confusing the molds with possibly gas tank molds?
I am the personified confusion :-)
> They are talking about molds of body parts perhaps 20 feet or more long.
I knew it was about the body molds, I didn't know how long they were. I
am sure there are portable 3D scanners available that could go that
distance, and/or people capable of using the mentioned one together with
software to "glue" the scans together. Most probable taking way longer,
but still the way to go imho. Once you have a 3D model of all the molds
the information is safe, and if ten years from now large 3D printers are
available easily, one can easily reorder all needed panels out of some
new material. I'd like that :-)
--
Best regards
Peer Oliver Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
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'73 Sequoia, SH, Germany
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| Re: [GMCnet] Save the GMC Molds! [message #336779 is a reply to message #336778] |
Wed, 05 September 2018 23:39 |
richshoop
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The magic of manufacturing happens in different ways depending on production level needed. The body molds were designed and manufactured to support production levels of 20 parts per hour. The 3D scan of the exterior surface is an excellent idea, no matter what molding technique is used.
> On September 5, 2018 at 9:28 PM Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
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> Morning Emery,
>
> On 06.09.2018 01:49, Emery Stora via Gmclist wrote:
>> Are you confusing the molds with possibly gas tank molds?
>
> I am the personified confusion :-)
>
>> They are talking about molds of body parts perhaps 20 feet or more long.
>
> I knew it was about the body molds, I didn't know how long they were. I
> am sure there are portable 3D scanners available that could go that
> distance, and/or people capable of using the mentioned one together with
> software to "glue" the scans together. Most probable taking way longer,
> but still the way to go imho. Once you have a 3D model of all the molds
> the information is safe, and if ten years from now large 3D printers are
> available easily, one can easily reorder all needed panels out of some
> new material. I'd like that :-)
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
> '76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
> '73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
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