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[GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335329] Tue, 17 July 2018 21:00 Go to next message
richshoop is currently offline  richshoop   United States
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Just bought a set of front windows from Applied GMC. Where can I find the information on installing these things?
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Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335333 is a reply to message #335329] Tue, 17 July 2018 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard,
If you're planning to install them yourself, DON’T! It take 2 people one on the inside and one on the outside to put them in. They need to be experienced in auto glass installation. I had mine replaced at the GMCMI convention in Elkhart a year ago. This was a team of actually 3 guys and they did 15 plus sets over a 2 day period. You should call Jim and get his recommendation on a qualified installer in your area.

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> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:00 PM, RICHARD/MARLI SHOOP wrote:
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Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335334 is a reply to message #335329] Tue, 17 July 2018 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Are thy the windshield or cockpit??

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:00 PM, RICHARD/MARLI SHOOP
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Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335335 is a reply to message #335334] Tue, 17 July 2018 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Did you request instruction from us?
We assume you are going to have a glass shop install them.
If you would have requested, we have instruction from the Maintenance
book.
I would thinkif you requested the intruction, Nick, Gary or Grace would
have done it or requested me to do it.


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:36 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:

> Are thy the windshield or cockpit??
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:00 PM, RICHARD/MARLI SHOOP richshoop@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Just bought a set of front windows from Applied GMC. Where can I find the
>> information on installing these things?
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Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335364 is a reply to message #335333] Wed, 18 July 2018 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
richshoop is currently offline  richshoop   United States
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I WILL take your advice. Will call JimH and have him suggest someone.
> On July 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM John Wright wrote:
>
>
> Richard,
> If you're planning to install them yourself, DON’T! It take 2 people one on the inside and one on the outside to put them in. They need to be experienced in auto glass installation. I had mine replaced at the GMCMI convention in Elkhart a year ago. This was a team of actually 3 guys and they did 15 plus sets over a 2 day period. You should call Jim and get his recommendation on a qualified installer in your area.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
> 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:00 PM, RICHARD/MARLI SHOOP wrote:
>>
>> Just bought a set of front windows from Applied GMC. Where can I find the information on installing these things?
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Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335366 is a reply to message #335333] Wed, 18 July 2018 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
peter bailey is currently offline  peter bailey   Australia
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Does not require 2 people to install the windshields just makes it easier. A competent installer can do it on their own I have seen it done here in Australia.
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)
Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335410 is a reply to message #335329] Fri, 20 July 2018 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Rich, that's the correct way. Pay for experience because breaking one is expensive.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335414 is a reply to message #335410] Fri, 20 July 2018 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Installing windshield glass with insufficient assistance is a receipe for
disaster. One tiny tool chip on the edge of the glass will lead to
problems. Really strong suction cups, and really strong forearms are an
absolute must. Plus, if they break it, they bought it. Additionally, most
glass shops have access to new windshield rubber mouldings and know a few
"tricks of the trade" when it comes to setting those big glass panels in
place. They have a fresh supply of butyl sealants and heaters to activate
them. I have outsourced glass installs for years. State Street Auto Glass
in Salem has done good work for me in the past, although the owner has
retired, and one of his lead installers is a service writer for a local
auto dealer. I do not have any personal experience with their replacements.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 6:24 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Rich, that's the correct way. Pay for experience because breaking one is
> expensive.
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335417 is a reply to message #335414] Fri, 20 July 2018 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Jim,

Re, "Plus, if they break it, they bought it."

I'd be surprised if a windshield installer would take responsibility for breaking a windshield they didn't supply at $729 each.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808



-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of James Hupy
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 8:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows

Installing windshield glass with insufficient assistance is a receipe for
disaster. One tiny tool chip on the edge of the glass will lead to
problems. Really strong suction cups, and really strong forearms are an
absolute must. Plus, if they break it, they bought it. Additionally, most
glass shops have access to new windshield rubber mouldings and know a few
"tricks of the trade" when it comes to setting those big glass panels in
place. They have a fresh supply of butyl sealants and heaters to activate
them. I have outsourced glass installs for years. State Street Auto Glass
in Salem has done good work for me in the past, although the owner has
retired, and one of his lead installers is a service writer for a local
auto dealer. I do not have any personal experience with their replacements.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 6:24 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Rich, that's the correct way. Pay for experience because breaking one is
> expensive.
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
>
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335423 is a reply to message #335417] Fri, 20 July 2018 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Typically when it comes to fixed glass removal and installation if the
glass is broken upon removal the owner absorbs the glass cost. If the
installer breaks the glass upon installation then that typically falls on
the installer. These points MUST be agreed upon by all parties in advance.

Sully
Bellevue.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 7:18 AM Rob Mueller wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Re, "Plus, if they break it, they bought it."
>
> I'd be surprised if a windshield installer would take responsibility for
> breaking a windshield they didn't supply at $729 each.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of James
> Hupy
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 8:45 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows
>
> Installing windshield glass with insufficient assistance is a receipe for
> disaster. One tiny tool chip on the edge of the glass will lead to
> problems. Really strong suction cups, and really strong forearms are an
> absolute must. Plus, if they break it, they bought it. Additionally, most
> glass shops have access to new windshield rubber mouldings and know a few
> "tricks of the trade" when it comes to setting those big glass panels in
> place. They have a fresh supply of butyl sealants and heaters to activate
> them. I have outsourced glass installs for years. State Street Auto Glass
> in Salem has done good work for me in the past, although the owner has
> retired, and one of his lead installers is a service writer for a local
> auto dealer. I do not have any personal experience with their replacements.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 6:24 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Rich, that's the correct way. Pay for experience because breaking one is
>> expensive.
>>
>> --johnny
>> --
>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
> me
>> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>>
>>
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Sully 77 Royale basket case. Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list) Seattle, Wa.
Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows [message #335425 is a reply to message #335423] Fri, 20 July 2018 11:10 Go to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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With used glass, previously installed, vehicle owner owns the liability.

NORMALLY, new glass, still in original packaging, installer owns it, BUT,
like Todd says, each deal is different, and varies from shop to shop.
Jim Hupy

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 8:56 AM Todd Sullivan wrote:

> Typically when it comes to fixed glass removal and installation if the
> glass is broken upon removal the owner absorbs the glass cost. If the
> installer breaks the glass upon installation then that typically falls on
> the installer. These points MUST be agreed upon by all parties in advance.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue.
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 7:18 AM Rob Mueller
> wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Re, "Plus, if they break it, they bought it."
>>
>> I'd be surprised if a windshield installer would take responsibility for
>> breaking a windshield they didn't supply at $729 each.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of
> James
>> Hupy
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 8:45 AM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Installing new front windows
>>
>> Installing windshield glass with insufficient assistance is a receipe for
>> disaster. One tiny tool chip on the edge of the glass will lead to
>> problems. Really strong suction cups, and really strong forearms are an
>> absolute must. Plus, if they break it, they bought it. Additionally, most
>> glass shops have access to new windshield rubber mouldings and know a few
>> "tricks of the trade" when it comes to setting those big glass panels in
>> place. They have a fresh supply of butyl sealants and heaters to activate
>> them. I have outsourced glass installs for years. State Street Auto Glass
>> in Salem has done good work for me in the past, although the owner has
>> retired, and one of his lead installers is a service writer for a local
>> auto dealer. I do not have any personal experience with their
> replacements.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 6:24 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Rich, that's the correct way. Pay for experience because breaking one
> is
>>> expensive.
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>> --
>>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
>> me
>>> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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