| Re: [GMCnet] Hello. Just wondering [message #334671] |
Thu, 05 July 2018 12:03  |
BobDunahugh
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Scott. Glad you signed up. For me. It's been a bit of a love/ dislike relationship. Not hate. But I'd do it again. The Royales are great. As you have more options. I made mine so I can dump just the black. Ore just the gray. When dumping both. I use the gray last as a rinse. Also I can dump with the 3" hose. Or the macerator. The main reason that I have the 3". Is that I can fill the black tank with lots of fresh water for a rinse. Then open the 3" for a stronger/faster final rinse. I also put a rinse spray nozzle in the black tank to create more turbulence during the dump/rinse. I've checked the black tank with an inspection camera. It gets really clean. The Bob Done-a-hug
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hello. Just wondering [message #334717 is a reply to message #334671] |
Fri, 06 July 2018 10:24  |
jhbridges
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The black also is a different plastic and consequently needs a different cement. If you use Oatey PVC cement on it, be prepared for a shitty surprise eventually.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black sewer pipe for RV use. The Black, and White aren't the same. [message #334718 is a reply to message #334714] |
Fri, 06 July 2018 10:30 |
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The black pipe is called ABS. It uses a different solvent than the PVC to glue pieces together.
My local Home Depot carries it and even sells shirt pieces such as 2 foot which is handy fo RV work. The normal size they sell is 10 foot.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
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> The black plastic pipe is more suited for use in RV applications then the standard white PVC. As I recall. It handles vibration better. Thus it's not just a color thing. It's out there. Just will take extra searching. Bob Dunahugh
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> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 12:03 PM
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> Subject: RE: Hello. Just wondering
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> Scott. Glad you signed up. For me. It's been a bit of a love/ dislike relationship. Not hate. But I'd do it again. The Royales are great. As you have more options. I made mine so I can dump just the black. Ore just the gray. When dumping both. I use the gray last as a rinse. Also I can dump with the 3" hose. Or the macerator. The main reason that I have the 3". Is that I can fill the black tank with lots of fresh water for a rinse. Then open the 3" for a stronger/faster final rinse. I also put a rinse spray nozzle in the black tank to create more turbulence during the dump/rinse. I've checked the black tank with an inspection camera. It gets really clean. The Bob Done-a-hug
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black sewer pipe for RV use. The Black, and White aren't the same. [message #334720 is a reply to message #334718] |
Fri, 06 July 2018 11:12 |
jimk
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I'm with Bob D, when it comes to having two seperate tanks.
All the SOB's have seperate gray and black.
Dump the black first, followed by the gray to remove the solids and smell.
If GMC was your first rv, then your in the dark as you assume that that's
the oly way.
Again, it is the Automotive Arrigance that influnced one tank and float.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> The black pipe is called ABS. It uses a different solvent than the PVC to
> glue pieces together.
>
> My local Home Depot carries it and even sells shirt pieces such as 2 foot
> which is handy fo RV work. The normal size they sell is 10 foot.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
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>> The black plastic pipe is more suited for use in RV applications then
> the standard white PVC. As I recall. It handles vibration better. Thus it's
> not just a color thing. It's out there. Just will take extra searching.
> Bob Dunahugh
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 12:03 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: RE: Hello. Just wondering
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>> Scott. Glad you signed up. For me. It's been a bit of a love/ dislike
> relationship. Not hate. But I'd do it again. The Royales are great. As you
> have more options. I made mine so I can dump just the black. Ore just the
> gray. When dumping both. I use the gray last as a rinse. Also I can dump
> with the 3" hose. Or the macerator. The main reason that I have the 3". Is
> that I can fill the black tank with lots of fresh water for a rinse. Then
> open the 3" for a stronger/faster final rinse. I also put a rinse spray
> nozzle in the black tank to create more turbulence during the dump/rinse.
> I've checked the black tank with an inspection camera. It gets really
> clean. The Bob Done-a-hug
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black sewer pipe for RV use. The Black, and White aren't the same. [message #334726 is a reply to message #334720] |
Fri, 06 July 2018 13:07 |
Ken Henderson
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I can only live with separate gray and black water tanks for a very
fundamental reason: In 60+ years of RVing, I've only once had a tank level
gauge I could trust -- and it ain't in the GMC. That means that from time
to time there will be gray water puddled in the shower! :-(( I can't
imagine having black, even gray diluted, water do that!
Ken H.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:12 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:
> I'm with Bob D, when it comes to having two seperate tanks.
> All the SOB's have seperate gray and black.
> Dump the black first, followed by the gray to remove the solids and smell.
> If GMC was your first rv, then your in the dark as you assume that that's
> the oly way.
> Again, it is the Automotive Arrigance that influnced one tank and float.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black sewer pipe for RV use. The Black, and White aren't the same. [message #334734 is a reply to message #334731] |
Fri, 06 July 2018 15:10 |
sgltrac
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1 1/4” abs and fittings are obtainable online only at least in my neck of
the woods.
Sully
Bellevue Wa
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:02 PM wrote:
> Just hope you never need 1 1/4" ABS.
> It now seems to be unobtanium
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> no pipe, no fittings. BTDT
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> RonC
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> On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:30:40 -0600 Emery Stora via Gmclist
> writes:
>> The black pipe is called ABS. It uses a different solvent than the
>> PVC to glue pieces together.
>>
>> My local Home Depot carries it and even sells shirt pieces such as 2
>> foot which is handy fo RV work. The normal size they sell is 10
>> foot.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hello. Just wondering [message #334735 is a reply to message #334671] |
Fri, 06 July 2018 15:44 |
jhbridges
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Lowe's had them last time I wanted some - year or two ago.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black sewer pipe for RV use. The Black, and White aren't the same. [message #334742 is a reply to message #334734] |
Fri, 06 July 2018 16:16 |
jimk
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Go to a RV dealer store for 1 1/4 pipes and fitttings. We stock several.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
> 1 1/4” abs and fittings are obtainable online only at least in my neck of
> the woods.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue Wa
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> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:02 PM wrote:
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>> Just hope you never need 1 1/4" ABS.
>> It now seems to be unobtanium
>>
>> no pipe, no fittings. BTDT
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>> RonC
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>> On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:30:40 -0600 Emery Stora via Gmclist
>> writes:
>>> The black pipe is called ABS. It uses a different solvent than the
>>> PVC to glue pieces together.
>>>
>>> My local Home Depot carries it and even sells shirt pieces such as 2
>>> foot which is handy fo RV work. The normal size they sell is 10
>>> foot.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>> 77 Kingsley
>>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hello. Just wondering [message #334764 is a reply to message #334717] |
Sat, 07 July 2018 07:50 |
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Matt Colie
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Fri, 06 July 2018 11:24The black also is a different plastic and consequently needs a different cement. If you use Oatey PVC cement on it, be prepared for a shitty surprise eventually.
--johnny
You also have to be sure to get that ABS cement.
Oatey also markets an all purpose that does not work well on ABS and a special that is for joining ABS and PVC and that can also lead to an less than great result.
When you have a can of black ABS cement, keep it around as you can also use it to patch your grill and headlight surrounds.
Matt
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