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AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333580] Sat, 16 June 2018 11:58 Go to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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So my mechanic had done some work on the top of the engine and did not latch the AC hose off of the alternator belt so it cut into the hose. Something I didn't realize till I tried the add Duracool to the system last season and the refrigerant spewed right back out. I pulled the hose and had it repaired and put it back on and zip tied it back off the belt. This all happened at the end of season so I never got the system up and running again. This summer would like to get it working again. What will I need done to it before I put Duracool in it?

Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333582 is a reply to message #333580] Sat, 16 June 2018 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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tgeiger wrote on Sat, 16 June 2018 12:58
So my mechanic had done some work on the top of the engine and did not latch the AC hose off of the alternator belt so it cut into the hose. Something I didn't realize till I tried the add Duracool to the system last season and the refrigerant spewed right back out. I pulled the hose and had it repaired and put it back on and zip tied it back off the belt. This all happened at the end of season so I never got the system up and running again. This summer would like to get it working again. What will I need done to it before I put Duracool in it?

Tom,

If it has been open all winter, you should change out the dryer and pull a good vacuum on the system.

How much oil did you loose? That should be made up too.

Good Luck

Matt


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Re: AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333583 is a reply to message #333580] Sat, 16 June 2018 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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To do it right. Replace or renew the receiver - dryer. (Renew by baking it, but a new one would be better) If the oil has been drained, put 4 ounces or so of mineral oil in the system. If you replaced the dryer, pour out what oil is in it and replace that much oil. If it had R134a in it, drain the oil and clean the system, then add mineral oil. Pressure the system with dry nitrogen to ~~250 psi and let it sit overnight and check that the system hasn't leaked overnight. Take your vacuum pump, release the nitrogen, and pull a hard vacuum on the system. Watch it for 20 - 30 minutes to ensure there are no leaks under vacuum. Put a couple of cans of DuraCool in, then look at the gauge and run some of the third can in. Most folks shoot for 20 PSI on the suction side at ~~ 1500 RPM. Option - put your temp probe in the air outlet and ease the third can in as long as the outlet temp falls. Keep it above 32 degrees. Once it falls off minimum temp, seal it up and run it.

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Re: AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333584 is a reply to message #333580] Sat, 16 June 2018 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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Hey Matt, honestly I don't know how long the system was open. When I discovered the breach I pull the belt and rubber band some cellophane over the ports right away till I got the hose fixed and back on. But I don't know how long it was open befor that. Guess I'll get a dryer and vacuum it down to be sure.

Thanks Matt!
Tom


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Re: [GMCnet] AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333587 is a reply to message #333584] Sat, 16 June 2018 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will Albers is currently offline  Will Albers   United States
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Matt, do we have anyone local that would take this on? I have a leak and
I'd like to convert.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 1:23 PM tom geiger wrote:

> Hey Matt, honestly I don't know how long the system was open. When I
> discovered the breach I pull the belt and rubber band some cellophane over
> the
> ports right away till I got the hose fixed and back on. But I don't know
> how long it was open befor that. Guess I'll get a dryer and vacuum it down
> to
> be sure.
>
> Thanks Matt!
> Tom
>
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Re: [GMCnet] AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333593 is a reply to message #333587] Sat, 16 June 2018 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Will Albers wrote on Sat, 16 June 2018 13:54
Matt, do we have anyone local that would take this on? I have a leak and
I'd like to convert.

Will,

Whatever, I am a week +/- from getting my coach done.
After that....
Do you know where the leak is??
I may have a cheap way to find it.
Do you want to put HC-12a (Duracool) in the system?
Does it currently have R-134a access fittings?

This can all be handled in my driveway, but you have to chase the parts - I don't have time.
I do have some Duracool and R-134a (not as good, but legal) is cheap at Ollie's.
I also have a big can of vacuum (joke - it is a science lab 0.1u pump - serious over kill for A/C).

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333595 is a reply to message #333593] Sat, 16 June 2018 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will Albers is currently offline  Will Albers   United States
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Mr Collie,

I should be the one offering to help you! In no way was I requesting you do
the work for me! =) I was curious if you knew of any shops locally... But I
also understand that no shop will install Duracool. Plan changed!

I was giving thought to the harbor freight coolant sniffer to find my leak
vs die. Would come in handy twice a decade, and I do live twice a decade
tools!

To answer your questions - nope, I'm not sure where the coolant leaked out
between the fall of 2017 and the spring of 2018, but it was empty when I
started her up last month. R134.

Ill find the leak first. Might have to stop by if you have a mega vacuum
pump and some duracool once it's fixed.

Are the dryers easially sourced?

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 8:42 PM Matt Colie wrote:

> Will Albers wrote on Sat, 16 June 2018 13:54
>> Matt, do we have anyone local that would take this on? I have a leak and
>> I'd like to convert.
>
> Will,
>
> Whatever, I am a week +/- from getting my coach done.
> After that....
> Do you know where the leak is??
> I may have a cheap way to find it.
> Do you want to put HC-12a (Duracool) in the system?
> Does it currently have R-134a access fittings?
>
> This can all be handled in my driveway, but you have to chase the parts -
> I don't have time.
> I do have some Duracool and R-134a (not as good, but legal) is cheap at
> Ollie's.
> I also have a big can of vacuum (joke - it is a science lab 0.1u pump -
> serious over kill for A/C).
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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Re: [GMCnet] AC high pressure hose replacement [message #333597 is a reply to message #333595] Sat, 16 June 2018 20:12 Go to previous message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Will,

Napa has it.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/TEM208508

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Will wrote:

> Mr Collie,
>
> I should be the one offering to help you! In no way was I requesting you do
> the work for me! =) I was curious if you knew of any shops locally... But I
> also understand that no shop will install Duracool. Plan changed!
>
> I was giving thought to the harbor freight coolant sniffer to find my leak
> vs die. Would come in handy twice a decade, and I do live twice a decade
> tools!
>
> To answer your questions - nope, I'm not sure where the coolant leaked out
> between the fall of 2017 and the spring of 2018, but it was empty when I
> started her up last month. R134.
>
> Ill find the leak first. Might have to stop by if you have a mega vacuum
> pump and some duracool once it's fixed.
>
> Are the dryers easially sourced?
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 8:42 PM Matt Colie wrote:
>
>> Will Albers wrote on Sat, 16 June 2018 13:54
>>> Matt, do we have anyone local that would take this on? I have a leak
> and
>>> I'd like to convert.
>>
>> Will,
>>
>> Whatever, I am a week +/- from getting my coach done.
>> After that....
>> Do you know where the leak is??
>> I may have a cheap way to find it.
>> Do you want to put HC-12a (Duracool) in the system?
>> Does it currently have R-134a access fittings?
>>
>> This can all be handled in my driveway, but you have to chase the parts -
>> I don't have time.
>> I do have some Duracool and R-134a (not as good, but legal) is cheap at
>> Ollie's.
>> I also have a big can of vacuum (joke - it is a science lab 0.1u pump -
>> serious over kill for A/C).
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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