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[GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332808] Wed, 30 May 2018 13:12 Go to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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Subject change. My Bobcat skid steer end loader is picky on what grease I use. Brand doesn't seem to be the issue. It's the cost. With cheep grease in the grease gun. The grease last about 2 hours of operation. High price grease can go all day plus. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332819 is a reply to message #332808] Wed, 30 May 2018 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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What happens at the 2:05 hour mark w cheap grease?

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332822 is a reply to message #332819] Wed, 30 May 2018 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Billy Massey is currently offline  Billy Massey   United States
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Skid steer don't skid no more.

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 6:43 PM John R. Lebetski
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> What happens at the 2:05 hour mark w cheap grease?
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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332838 is a reply to message #332808] Thu, 31 May 2018 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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At the general 2 hour mark. I start getting the sound of metal to metal. Coming from the bushing bearings at the end of hydraulic cylinders, and bucket joints on my Bobcat end loader. The load on these pivot points is HUGE. Cheep grease just can't maintain a good lube film under heavy loads. I use Valvoline Synthetic grease for everything. I want a great grease that can protect my rear suspension pins. There are other brands that can perform to the same standards. It goes back to. You get what you pay for. Grease is CHEEP. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale.


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Subject change. My Bobcat skid steer end loader is picky on what grease I use. Brand doesn't seem to be the issue. It's the cost. With cheep grease in the grease gun. The grease last about 2 hours of operation. High price grease can go all day plus. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332848 is a reply to message #332808] Thu, 31 May 2018 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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I totally agree. You and Matt agree that grease is cheap, parts are expensive. It fixed my squeaking laptop fan with a pin head amount where no other miracle lubricant would work. About 7 years now still good. Also used it on bath fan bearings in coach by putting it on fingertip and mushing it in. Oiling the motor only lasted a few days where this lasts years. Might try on dash blower bearings on a qtip if I can get in through cooling hole. Logic would say a light oil is better but I'm proving that wrong.

John Lebetski
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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332859 is a reply to message #332808] Thu, 31 May 2018 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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So, I would like to go around and hit everything, anything showing where all the zerts are at?

Tom
76 Eleganza2
KCMO


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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332865 is a reply to message #332859] Thu, 31 May 2018 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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tgeiger wrote on Thu, 31 May 2018 14:01
So, I would like to go around and hit everything, anything showing where all the zerts are at?

Tom
76 Eleganza2
KCMO

Tom,

Here is an off the cuff list....
Upper and lower ball joints at the knuckles (makes 4)
Inner and outer tie rod ends (makes 4)
The original idler arms have none (Whew, but check that)
The relay lever has one at the intermediate rod (or cross rod), one at the pivot and one at the joint to the drag link (that is three)
There is one at the drag link to the pitman arm (the lever at the steering box (1 more)
Then there are two in the steering shaft that are a bear. One is in the middle the slip shaft and there is one hidden it the cardin (universal) joint just on top of the steering box. (That is 2 more)

That is the common 14 in the front. Do not expect to get to them and stay clean (that just ain't happenin).

There are the 4 more (could be 8 on '76) at the bogies.

Remember, Grease is cheaper than parts.....

I can't get at mine with a rigid snout grease gun, but trying to get the coupler on and have it stay with a flexible hose has been an exercise in futility. I am using a one handed gun so I can hold the coupler on with one hand and pump with the other. Be cautious if using an air powered gun as they often sound like they are pumping grease when nothing is happening. I found a cordless electric that looked promising, but the price was an issue. (A REAL BIG issue.)

Good Luck

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332871 is a reply to message #332865] Thu, 31 May 2018 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Matt go to the LocknLube site. That have an end for the flexibly line of your grease gun that will free up your hands to properly use the pump. I also bought their “boot” that goes over the end of the grease gun to keep it from dripping.
I doould have bought these things years ago.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On May 31, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
> tgeiger wrote on Thu, 31 May 2018 14:01
>> So, I would like to go around and hit everything, anything showing where all the zerts are at?
>>
>> Tom
>> 76 Eleganza2
>> KCMO
>
> Tom,
>
> Here is an off the cuff list....
> Upper and lower ball joints at the knuckles (makes 4)
> Inner and outer tie rod ends (makes 4)
> The original idler arms have none (Whew, but check that)
> The relay lever has one at the intermediate rod (or cross rod), one at the pivot and one at the joint to the drag link (that is three)
> There is one at the drag link to the pitman arm (the lever at the steering box (1 more)
> Then there are two in the steering shaft that are a bear. One is in the middle the slip shaft and there is one hidden it the cardin (universal) joint
> just on top of the steering box. (That is 2 more)
>
> That is the common 14 in the front. Do not expect to get to them and stay clean (that just ain't happenin).
>
> There are the 4 more (could be 8 on '76) at the bogies.
>
> Remember, Grease is cheaper than parts.....
>
> I can't get at mine with a rigid snout grease gun, but trying to get the coupler on and have it stay with a flexible hose has been an exercise in
> futility. I am using a one handed gun so I can hold the coupler on with one hand and pump with the other. Be cautious if using an air powered gun as
> they often sound like they are pumping grease when nothing is happening. I found a cordless electric that looked promising, but the price was an
> issue. (A REAL BIG issue.)
>
> Good Luck
>
> Matt
> --
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> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332890 is a reply to message #332871] Fri, 01 June 2018 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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emerystora wrote on Thu, 31 May 2018 16:38
Matt go to the LocknLube site. That have an end for the flexibly line of your grease gun that will free up your hands to properly use the pump. I also bought their "boot" that goes over the end of the grease gun to keep it from dripping.
I doould have bought these things years ago.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

Emery,

The LocknLube coupler was here when we got back from Elkhart. That is when the "tear the coach apart" project started. It is already on the coach grease gun, but except for two fittings on the Gravely, it is unused.

I have not had issues with the Valvoline grease dripping. Unfortunately, it is still slimy from the prior fill because a seem to remember to clean it just after I have reloaded the thing.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332891 is a reply to message #332890] Fri, 01 June 2018 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

I have a few extra cartridges of Mobil 1 and Valvoline Synpower here in Houston. In the past I had stored them standing up on their
ends and found that fluid separates from the grease and if the end with the plastic cap is down fluid leaks out. I now store them
laying down and that does not occur.

Before you put a cartridge in a grease gun you have to pull the "T" handle back compressing the spring plunger. Once the cartridge
is screwed back into the gun you release the "T" handle and force the grease into the gun.

If you store it with the spring pressure on the grease it will cause the fluid to separate. I found the best thing to do is to pull
the "T" handle out when you store the gun and store it horizontally.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease

Emery,

The LocknLube coupler was here when we got back from Elkhart. That is when the "tear the coach apart" project started. It is
already on the coach grease gun, but except for two fittings on the Gravely, it is unused.

I have not had issues with the Valvoline grease dripping. Unfortunately, it is still slimy from the prior fill because a seem to
remember to clean it just after I have reloaded the thing.

Matt


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease [message #332914 is a reply to message #332891] Sat, 02 June 2018 09:39 Go to previous message
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I know of few people that spend ton of time seeking the great grease, but
not using any on their coaches.
I rather put some grease in of any brand than sit and wait.😢

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 6:34 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> G'day,
>
> I have a few extra cartridges of Mobil 1 and Valvoline Synpower here in
> Houston. In the past I had stored them standing up on their
> ends and found that fluid separates from the grease and if the end with
> the plastic cap is down fluid leaks out. I now store them
> laying down and that does not occur.
>
> Before you put a cartridge in a grease gun you have to pull the "T" handle
> back compressing the spring plunger. Once the cartridge
> is screwed back into the gun you release the "T" handle and force the
> grease into the gun.
>
> If you store it with the spring pressure on the grease it will cause the
> fluid to separate. I found the best thing to do is to pull
> the "T" handle out when you store the gun and store it horizontally.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> Colie
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 7:34 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Chassis Grease
>
> Emery,
>
> The LocknLube coupler was here when we got back from Elkhart. That is
> when the "tear the coach apart" project started. It is
> already on the coach grease gun, but except for two fittings on the
> Gravely, it is unused.
>
> I have not had issues with the Valvoline grease dripping. Unfortunately,
> it is still slimy from the prior fill because a seem to
> remember to clean it just after I have reloaded the thing.
>
> Matt
>
>
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