| [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332371] |
Mon, 21 May 2018 12:35  |
w schurman
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I have a 403 CID engine with approximately 90 K miles. In the past I've
used Mobile 1 15-50 however today I came across Mobile 1 10-40 high
mileage. OK to switch ? Also I no longer have my oil filter number list. I
have access to NAPA and Advance Auto f/n/a Carquest and O'Reilly's what are
the numbers to use at these places ?
Thanks, Bill
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William S. Schumann
box 772806
Steamboat Springs, CO
80477
1978 Palm Beach
TZE168V100258
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332375 is a reply to message #332371] |
Mon, 21 May 2018 15:21  |
Ken Henderson
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Bill,
I suspect you'll notice no difference using the High Mileage oil. But if
anything, you may use a little more of it because of the lighter weight.
As for the filters, all that information should be in your GMCMI Parts
Interchange booklet. If you're not a member of GMCMI, you should join, if
only for that item.
Or, go to GMCMI.com and access the Parts Interchange there.
Ken H.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:36 PM w schurman wrote:
> I have a 403 CID engine with approximately 90 K miles. In the past I've
> used Mobile 1 15-50 however today I came across Mobile 1 10-40 high
> mileage. OK to switch ? Also I no longer have my oil filter number list. I
> have access to NAPA and Advance Auto f/n/a Carquest and O'Reilly's what are
> the numbers to use at these places ?
> Thanks, Bill
> --
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332418 is a reply to message #332375] |
Tue, 22 May 2018 15:01 |
jimk
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Use WIX 51049
Has the largest filter media area so more oil will flow at same pressure.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I suspect you'll notice no difference using the High Mileage oil. But if
> anything, you may use a little more of it because of the lighter weight.
>
> As for the filters, all that information should be in your GMCMI Parts
> Interchange booklet. If you're not a member of GMCMI, you should join, if
> only for that item.
>
> Or, go to GMCMI.com and access the Parts Interchange there.
> Ken H.
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:36 PM w schurman wrote:
>
>> I have a 403 CID engine with approximately 90 K miles. In the past I've
>> used Mobile 1 15-50 however today I came across Mobile 1 10-40 high
>> mileage. OK to switch ? Also I no longer have my oil filter number
> list. I
>> have access to NAPA and Advance Auto f/n/a Carquest and O'Reilly's what
> are
>> the numbers to use at these places ?
>> Thanks, Bill
>> --
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332440 is a reply to message #332371] |
Wed, 23 May 2018 08:55 |
JohnL455
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You are making a better choice with 10W-40. Wix 51258 is standard length as is AC PF 24. THESE ARE FOR 455! 403 and other small blick Olds should be PF 58 or Wix 51522.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332442 is a reply to message #332440] |
Wed, 23 May 2018 09:22 |
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USAussie
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John,
Why wouldn't you want to use the Wix 51049 filter:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/455-2f-403-engine-oil-flow-path/p53487-wix-51049-element.html
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John R. Lebetski
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:56 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter
You are making a better choice with 10W-40. Wix 51258 is standard length as is AC PF 24. THESE ARE FOR 455! 403 and other small
blick Olds should be
PF 58 or Wix 51522.
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332503 is a reply to message #332371] |
Thu, 24 May 2018 08:46 |
JohnL455
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Rob. Because in the original post he states 403 SBO. That would cause discharge of all lube oil onto the ground.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332827 is a reply to message #332823] |
Wed, 30 May 2018 20:06 |
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USAussie
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William,
To un-confuse you the Wix 51045, Wix 51049, or Wix 51522 will all fit any 455 or any 403 from any year.
Wix 51045: http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=153657
Wix 51049: http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=154643
Wix 51522: http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=78145
They are all the same diameter, however, the 51049 is the "tallest" and therefore has the greatest filter media surface area.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/455-2f-403-engine-oil-flow-path/p53486-wix-filter-p-2fn-51049.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/455-2f-403-engine-oil-flow-path/p53488-wix-51049-filter.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/455-2f-403-engine-oil-flow-path/p53487-wix-51049-element.html
That's why Jim Kanomata recommended it. BTW Jim's primary business is manufacturing filter systems for clean rooms; he's forgotten
more about filters than anybody else here knows!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of w schurman
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:55 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter
Thanks to all who replied to my initial post regarding the proper oil filter for a 1978 403 Palm Beach however I'm confused. The
GMCMI parts list calls for a WIX 51045 on a 1978 403 but Jim K says to get a WIX 51049,
however the GMCMI parts lists that filter for a 455 and a 1977 403. Then to confuse me further John R suggests a WIX 51522. Sorry to
be a pest and BTW I'm sticking to Mobil 1 15 W 50.
William S. Schurman
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332879 is a reply to message #332371] |
Thu, 31 May 2018 18:56 |
JohnL455
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Sorry if I gave out wrong info. The Olds 307 in my Riviera uses the numbers I posted AC PF58 or Wix equiv. and is same in that it is a small block Olds. I have no 403 here to look at.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil and Filter [message #332880 is a reply to message #332371] |
Thu, 31 May 2018 19:11 |
JohnL455
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Looking at the parts interchange the PF58 or Wix 51045 is correct for 78 403. This is a smaller diameter filter
For 77 455 and 403 the larger diameter PF 24 or Wix 51258 and 51049 are listed. Not sure if this is correct that in 77 the 403 takes the larger filter same as 455 but if so I learned something. I don't think you told us year at the get go.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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