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Huggysyd is currently offline  Huggysyd   Canada
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Hi all!
I'm a PROUD new (bought last Sunday) owner of a '74 Painted Desert 230..TZE034V100354...
111315 MILES...
It came with 16.5's on the back and non-hub centered Eagles on the front.
Started and drove like a champ, as did the 4kw Onan.
Trans rebuilt @94000 miles.
Brand new drivers axle, bearings, hub, knuckle.
I've been looking for one of these babies for several years and I'm hoping that I've lucked into a good one.

Very cool is that the PPPO, Mr Poole from Bow Island Alberta, was a longtime member of the GMCMI Club and FMCA.
With the motorhome I got a whole raft of old newsletters, maintenance manual and original owners manual.

Fortunately I am able to do all my own vehicle repair and maintenance, but I'm certain to be looking through all those old GMCMI newsletters for tips and advice.
I'm looking forward to the adventure! Laughing


Hugh Price Edmonton, Alberta Canada 1974 Painted Desert 23’
Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331944 is a reply to message #331942] Fri, 11 May 2018 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welcome to the family. I know exactly how you feel - I was there just a little over a year ago myself Smile I totally love how unique these GMCs are. The funniest part of many trips is coming across folks with brand new RVs who look at the GMCMH with total admiration.
I hope you found a good one. Wishing you many happy miles and years with it.


Vadim Jitkov '76 Glenbrook 26' Pullman, WA
Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331948 is a reply to message #331942] Fri, 11 May 2018 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TZE HUGGY wrote on Fri, 11 May 2018 00:56
Hi all!
I'm a PROUD new (bought last Sunday) owner of a '74 Painted Desert 230..TZE034V100354...
111315 MILES...
It came with 16.5's on the back and non-hub centered Eagles on the front.
Started and drove like a champ, as did the 4kw Onan.
Trans rebuilt @94000 miles.
Brand new drivers axle, bearings, hub, knuckle.
I've been looking for one of these babies for several years and I'm hoping that I've lucked into a good one.

Very cool is that the PPPO, Mr Poole from Bow Island Alberta, was a longtime member of the GMCMI Club and FMCA.
With the motorhome I got a whole raft of old newsletters, maintenance manual and original owners manual.

Fortunately I am able to do all my own vehicle repair and maintenance, but I'm certain to be looking through all those old GMCMI newsletters for tips and advice.
I'm looking forward to the adventure! Laughing


Huggy,

Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum.....

You are not the only Canadian here, not by a long shot. Most are good people.

Do us and you a favor. Fill in a sigfile.
Go to <Control Panel/Account Settings> and scroll down until you find it. Remember to scroll down more to the <Update>.
Fill in a real name, we use real names so I and others don't feel so stupid when we meet and have no idea who you are. GMCers meet a lot. Include a short about the coach and its major mods. All this is so you get good answers to questions you post. And lastly, a geographic reference. Did you know that the half that read this as e-mail don't get to see the header where it says "Edmonton"? This can actually mater because you will have issues that are not common to Arizona, but someone in Minnesota may understand.

I also have an Onan BF that is a joy, but the thing that made it even better was the change to flywheel triggered electronic ignition (points replacement). If it does not have a prime button, that is a good addition as is and hour meter.

If the main engine has not had HEI installed and you don't feel like hammering the air filter housing into submission, plan to install the ignition points replacement with a Pertronix 1181. I did that and added a CDI box and she never misses a beat. Plugs last until you are bored with them. I just have to remember not to go near the secondaries when it is running, they will find you.....

You will find this a helping and supportive group like few others. But, be aware that there is a very open agenda here. Not one bit hidden is the fact that we all want you to enjoy your coach as much as we all enjoy ours.

The only other community that I know of that is as supportive as this is that of the watermen of my world. For this reason, I have taken to welcoming new owners here much as a new owner or vessel is welcomed there. So,

May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within here.

Welcome Hugh,

Matt


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Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331956 is a reply to message #331942] Fri, 11 May 2018 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Huggysyd is currently offline  Huggysyd   Canada
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Thanks for the welcome.
Will definitely take your signature suggestion when I get home from work.
I'll ask my first question now.
Where can I get new Alcoa's?
A shop here told me they are no longer manufactured!!?
I think they're the single mod I want to do RIGHT NOW...
All my tires are shot and the new 16 inch rubber is on order...
The front are Eagle knockoffs from Taiwan... stud centred which I'd like to get rid of.


Hugh Price Edmonton, Alberta Canada 1974 Painted Desert 23’
Re: [GMCnet] Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331958 is a reply to message #331956] Fri, 11 May 2018 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is NO problem with lug-centered wheels—they are just a bit harder to
install. I have seven of them and they work fine. Get four (or five)
matching Eagles and move your current pair to the rear-most positions.

I have also needed and used my spare, though at home and not on the
highway. Nails happen, especially around here, and I’ll continue to carry
mine :)

Rick “get the stainless covers and hardware, too” Denney

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 12:36 PM Hugh Price wrote:

> Thanks for the welcome.
> Will definitely take your signature suggestion when I get home from work.
> I'll ask my first question now.
> Where can I get new Alcoa's?
> A shop here told me they are no longer manufactured!!?
> I think they're the single mod I want to do RIGHT NOW...
> All my tires are shot and the new 16 inch rubber is on order...
> The front are Eagle knockoffs from Taiwan... stud centred which I'd like
> to get rid of.
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Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331962 is a reply to message #331942] Fri, 11 May 2018 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hey Huggysyd,

post up some photos of it when you can. Im still looking but, like it seems you have, reading as much about them as I can. so far the canyon lands are the ones I like most and painted desert next, at least judging by photos. I just like the interior colors of both of those mostly but not set on any particular model really.

having the original owners manual with it is great. good luck with it!
Re: [GMCnet] Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331964 is a reply to message #331962] Fri, 11 May 2018 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We carry Alcoa and everything else, please visit us at: www.appliedgmc.com
Also we have staff to answer tech questions


On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Fred wrote:

> hey Huggysyd,
>
> post up some photos of it when you can. Im still looking but, like it
> seems you have, reading as much about them as I can. so far the canyon
> lands are
> the ones I like most and painted desert next, at least judging by photos.
> I just like the interior colors of both of those mostly but not set on any
> particular model really.
>
> having the original owners manual with it is great. good luck with it!
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331966 is a reply to message #331962] Fri, 11 May 2018 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim K lists the Eagle and Alcoa's on his site, although I'm not certain he has the Alcoa wheels in stock.




Larry Davick
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> On May 11, 2018 at 11:36 AM Fred wrote:
>
>
> hey Huggysyd,
>
> post up some photos of it when you can. Im still looking but, like it seems you have, reading as much about them as I can. so far the canyon lands are
> the ones I like most and painted desert next, at least judging by photos. I just like the interior colors of both of those mostly but not set on any
> particular model really.
>
> having the original owners manual with it is great. good luck with it!
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331982 is a reply to message #331966] Fri, 11 May 2018 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And Huggysyd, when you get a moment, don't forget to visit the Registry at www.gmcmhregistry.com for the online form so we can get your "new" GMC listed in the data base. Who knows, it may already be there, but under a previous owner (PO). Or it might be another new one.
Thanks, and welcome!


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Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #331997 is a reply to message #331942] Sat, 12 May 2018 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Huggysyd is currently offline  Huggysyd   Canada
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So I've gone through the mountain of papers I got with the TZE, and find it was sold in Eau Clair Michigan.
I have info from four owners past that. They guy who owned it in '93 had a bad week... blew the engine , blew the tranny within a week of each other.. $4000 US. That's only 20k miles ago...


Hugh Price Edmonton, Alberta Canada 1974 Painted Desert 23’
Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #332005 is a reply to message #331942] Sat, 12 May 2018 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Huggysyd is currently offline  Huggysyd   Canada
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A buddy who has a 23' has put spacers on the front wheels. He didn't say how big.
I have a shop here who sells 2" and 3" aluminum ones.
All Suspension bushings need replacing. Special application or toronado, or maybe 3/4 ton truck?
Anyone have part numbers?


Hugh Price Edmonton, Alberta Canada 1974 Painted Desert 23’
Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #332007 is a reply to message #332005] Sat, 12 May 2018 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You might want to consider doing the one ton front suspension conversion.
Advantages: About the same cost as rebuilding your original suspension. Easily found in the man malls, updated knuckles, common off the shelf parts, wider stance without spacers, bigger brakes, and more.
Not sure if there are anymore Manny Travajo kits around since he is retiring. There are shops and individuals with the experience to do the conversion or at least walk you through it.

Huggysyd wrote on Sat, 12 May 2018 12:57
A buddy who has a 23' has put spacers on the front wheels. He didn't say how big.
I have a shop here who sells 2" and 3" aluminum ones.
All Suspension bushings need replacing. Special application or toronado, or maybe 3/4 ton truck?
Anyone have part numbers?



Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands
Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS
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Re: [GMCnet] Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #332015 is a reply to message #332007] Sat, 12 May 2018 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd get a second opinion on replacing all the bushings...often what appears
isn't really that bad. Just sayin'

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On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Jerry Burt wrote:

> You might want to consider doing the one ton front suspension conversion.
> Advantages: About the same cost as rebuilding your original suspension.
> Easily found in the man malls, updated knuckles, common off the shelf parts,
> wider stance without spacers, bigger brakes, and more.
> Not sure if there are anymore Manny Travajo kits around since he is
> retiring. There are shops and individuals with the experience to do the
> conversion
> or at least walk you through it.
>
> Huggysyd wrote on Sat, 12 May 2018 12:57
>> A buddy who has a 23' has put spacers on the front wheels. He didn't say
> how big.
>> I have a shop here who sells 2" and 3" aluminum ones.
>> All Suspension bushings need replacing. Special application or toronado,
> or maybe 3/4 ton truck?
>> Anyone have part numbers?
>
>
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Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #332313 is a reply to message #331942] Sat, 19 May 2018 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Huggysyd is currently offline  Huggysyd   Canada
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Well, been trying to post some pics from the phone without success...
Will try from home tonight.
But suffice it to say 45 year old neglected bushings will certainly get replaced.
Fortunately, since I've been wrenching on cars since I was 12, I can do all my own work.
Also, all four bogie pins are pooched.
Rear wheel bearings look "okay"
Ebrake cables need love.
Brakes shoes need adjustment and drums are questionable...
Airbags (age considered) look servicible
Air compressor is weak.
Will look at more systems as work schedule allows.
Got my 16" steelies and tires on the way...


Hugh Price Edmonton, Alberta Canada 1974 Painted Desert 23’
Re: [GMCnet] Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #332324 is a reply to message #332313] Sat, 19 May 2018 21:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To Hugh P.:
What kind of 16" steelies did you get and at what approximate cost?
I am needing to replace 16.5" originals on my project coach! I like the Alcoa's but they are a tad expensive.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Hugh Price wrote:
>
> Well, been trying to post some pics from the phone without success...
> Will try from home tonight.
> But suffice it to say 45 year old neglected bushings will certainly get replaced.
> Fortunately, since I've been wrenching on cars since I was 12, I can do all my own work.
> Also, all four bogie pins are pooched.
> Rear wheel bearings look "okay"
> Ebrake cables need love.
> Brakes shoes need adjustment and drums are questionable...
> Airbags (age considered) look servicible
> Air compressor is weak.
> Will look at more systems as work schedule allows.
> Got my 16" steelies and tires on the way...
> --
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> Edmonton, Alberta
> Canada
> 1974 Painted Desert 23’
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Re: [GMCnet] Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #332326 is a reply to message #332324] Sat, 19 May 2018 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

FYI

https://www.southwestwheel.com/p-1835-x45329.aspx

Regards,
Rob M.
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Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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To Hugh P.:
What kind of 16" steelies did you get and at what approximate cost?
I am needing to replace 16.5" originals on my project coach! I like the Alcoa's but they are a tad expensive.



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Re: Newbie TZE Owner saying "Hi!" [message #332328 is a reply to message #331942] Sun, 20 May 2018 09:09 Go to previous message
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Hugh,
Albert Branscombe in Ontario makes replacement stainless Ebrake cables. Easier to buy on this side of the border.

http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/branscombe/index.html


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