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[GMCnet] Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places. [message #331503] Sat, 28 April 2018 23:02 Go to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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Ever tried to get a wire a short distance under carpet. Or thru a double panel of the floor, or bulk head. Drill the hole large enough to stick a long straw thru your hole. ( Gas stations have the longest straws for their soft drinks. ) Feed the wire into the straw. Pull the straw out the other end after feeding the wire to the other end of the straw.. Or leave the straw to protect the wire from vibration. I needed to feed a wire under our rubber backed carpet. ( Was putting the EFI engine control module under the seat. ) Slid the straw under the carpet. Then just slid the wire thru the straw. Again. Left the straw under the carpet. Used that straw 7 months later to add another wire. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places. [message #331505 is a reply to message #331503] Sun, 29 April 2018 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For longer push/pulls or chases, you can buy small OD pex tubing by the roll. I use 1/4" or 3/8" (x 50 ft) about as much for fishing as I do plumbing. In situ, it makes a very strong -but still flexible- conduit.
Re: [GMCnet] Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places. [message #331509 is a reply to message #331503] Sun, 29 April 2018 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For years at work we used the plastic rod which opens thin blinds. Up to 6 feet long, flexible, and there's a hook on the end for the wire.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places. [message #331518 is a reply to message #331503] Sun, 29 April 2018 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RC. Using PEX as a conduit is a choice that I hadn't thought of. Nice idea. I had a warehouse tenant that installed fiber optic underground plastic conduits. He gave me some long ends of his 1/2 inch diameter rolls. That were different colors. All the 12 volt wire under our GMC is now in that FO tubing. When I built this GMC. I used that tubing inside, and out. Then put extra runs of that FO tubing in the walls. This way I can run future wires later, and simply from front to back. It seems that a lot of electrical issues arise due to the problem of 40 plus years of road hazards, and vibration. So it comes down too. How much would you like to avoid future problems that you can prevent now. It's simpler then you think to put that undercarriage wire in tubing. And don't forget to use the heat shrink wire butt connectors. Electrical black tap MUST NOT be used. Bob Dunahugh.

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Subject: Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places.


Ever tried to get a wire a short distance under carpet. Or thru a double panel of the floor, or bulk head. Drill the hole large enough to stick a long straw thru your hole. ( Gas stations have the longest straws for their soft drinks. ) Feed the wire into the straw. Pull the straw out the other end after feeding the wire to the other end of the straw.. Or leave the straw to protect the wire from vibration. I needed to feed a wire under our rubber backed carpet. ( Was putting the EFI engine control module under the seat. ) Slid the straw under the carpet. Then just slid the wire thru the straw. Again. Left the straw under the carpet. Used that straw 7 months later to add another wire. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places. [message #331519 is a reply to message #331518] Sun, 29 April 2018 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I use 1/4" air ride air hose. It is tough stuff. Rigid at room temp. When
heated with near boiling water, it will freely bend 90°, when it cools,
goes back to tough stuff. It will handle 12 gauge automotive wire inside
easily.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 10:27 AM Bob Dunahugh wrote:

>
> RC. Using PEX as a conduit is a choice that I hadn't thought of. Nice
> idea. I had a warehouse tenant that installed fiber optic underground
> plastic conduits. He gave me some long ends of his 1/2 inch diameter
> rolls. That were different colors. All the 12 volt wire under our GMC is
> now in that FO tubing. When I built this GMC. I used that tubing inside,
> and out. Then put extra runs of that FO tubing in the walls. This way I can
> run future wires later, and simply from front to back. It seems that a lot
> of electrical issues arise due to the problem of 40 plus years of road
> hazards, and vibration. So it comes down too. How much would you like to
> avoid future problems that you can prevent now. It's simpler then you think
> to put that undercarriage wire in tubing. And don't forget to use the heat
> shrink wire butt connectors. Electrical black tap MUST NOT be used. Bob
> Dunahugh.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:02 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places.
>
>
> Ever tried to get a wire a short distance under carpet. Or thru a double
> panel of the floor, or bulk head. Drill the hole large enough to stick a
> long straw thru your hole. ( Gas stations have the longest straws for
> their soft drinks. ) Feed the wire into the straw. Pull the straw out the
> other end after feeding the wire to the other end of the straw.. Or leave
> the straw to protect the wire from vibration. I needed to feed a wire
> under our rubber backed carpet. ( Was putting the EFI engine control
> module under the seat. ) Slid the straw under the carpet. Then just slid
> the wire thru the straw. Again. Left the straw under the carpet. Used that
> straw 7 months later to add another wire. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Tid Bit. Getting a wire fed in tight small places. [message #331523 is a reply to message #331503] Sun, 29 April 2018 14:18 Go to previous message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Bob, black tape and ScotchKote<tm> is the normal seal for splices in coax, and I've taken down ones older than our coaches out in the weather - still sealed. Not for use on crimp - ons, but I solder splices in lieu of crimp - on butt splicers. Layer of tape, layer of ScotchKote layer of tape etc. 3 layers plus a top of black tape Put on such that it won't unwind itself.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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